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Vatican accepts evolution as fact
Fatima Perspectives ^ | August 24th 2004 | Chris Ferrara

Posted on 08/28/2004 9:10:46 PM PDT by AskStPhilomena

In what appears to be its latest capitulation to worldly wisdom, the Vatican apparatus now assumes (contrary to the teaching of Pius XII in Humanae Generis) that the evolution of men from animals is a proven fact.

On June 24, 2004 Zenit.org reported that "Vatican Observatory has convoked a range of experts to reflect on a question that at times seems to be forgotten in scientific research: Is there purpose in evolution?" That is, evolution is now assumed to have occurred, and the only debate is over whether it has a purpose. The Vatican called a symposium of experts to meet on June 24-26 to discuss whether evolution has a "purpose."

The Vatican Observatory’s announcement of the symposium states that "in scientific circles, there is a very deep-seated distrust of teleological language, even though researchers may occasionally use the word ‘design’ in an attempt to grapple with the often astonishing adaptive complexes they study … Put crudely, the widely accepted scientific worldview is that human beings or any other product of evolutionary diversification is accidental and, by implication, incidental."

Well, that’s right, of course. And what is the Vatican’s response to this worldview? Read it for yourself, if you can believe it: "The purpose of this symposium is not to dispute this worldview, but to inquire whether it is sufficient and, if it is not, to consider what we need to know and ultimately how we might discover the requisite information with one or more research programs." So, the Vatican does not dispute the view that the emergence of human life is merely incidental to the process of "evolution," whose truth is now apparently assumed.

The symposium (whose results have not yet been published) was asked to address five questions:

-- Can we speak of a universal biochemistry?

-- How do levels of complexity emerge, and are they inevitable?

-- Can we properly define evolutionary constraints?

-- What does convergence [different species displaying the same traits] tell us about evolution?

-- What do we mean by intelligence? Is intelligence an inevitable product of evolution?

Notice that every question presumes that evolution has, in fact, occurred, even though there is abundant evidence showing no gradual transition from one form of life to another (as evolution supposes), but rather the sudden appearance of every basic form in the fossil record, which is precisely what one would expect to see if God directly and specially created each kind, as the Book of Genesis recounts.

In Humani Generis Pope Pius XII warned that "the faithful cannot embrace that opinion which maintains either that after Adam there existed on this earth true men who did not take their origin through natural generation from him as from the first parent of all or that Adam represents a certain number of first parents. Now it is in no way apparent how such an opinion can be reconciled with that which the sources of revealed truth and the documents of the Teaching Authority of the Church propose with regard to original sin, which proceeds from a sin actually committed by an individual Adam and which through generation is passed on to all and is in everyone as his own."

Moreover, Pope Leo XIII taught in his encyclical letter Arcane Divinae Sapientiae (Christian Marriage) that Adam and Eve, and they only, are our first parents and that Eve was created from Adam's body:

We record what is to all known, and cannot be doubted by any, that God, on the sixth day of creation, having made man from the slime of the earth, and having breathed into his face the breath of life, gave him a companion, whom He miraculously took from the side of Adam when he was locked in sleep. God thus, in His most far-reaching foresight, decreed that this husband and wife should be the natural beginning of the human race, from whom it might be propagated, and preserved by an unfailing fruitfulness throughout all futurity of time.

The Church says that no one may doubt these things. Yet how can these things be reconciled with the view that Adam and Eve (and who knows how many other humans) "evolved" from apes and that Eve was not formed from the body of Adam, as the Vatican now seems to suppose, in calling for a symposium to discuss the "purpose" of evolution.

So the question must be asked: Do those who are in charge of the Vatican’s approach to "modern science" still believe in what the Church teaches concerning the origin of the human race? Or are we witnessing yet another sign of the great apostasy in the Catholic Church beginning at the top, which was predicted by the Third Secret of Fatima?


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1 posted on 08/28/2004 9:10:47 PM PDT by AskStPhilomena
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To: AskStPhilomena
Fortunately, the Bible doesn't make such an error.

Six literal days folks. You should be asking why did our Creator God take SO LONG not denying that He could do it in six days.

2 posted on 08/28/2004 9:13:59 PM PDT by HawkeyeLonewolf (Christian First, American Second (Conservative Anti-Smoker))
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To: AskStPhilomena; Akron Al; Alberta's Child; Andrew65; AniGrrl; Antoninus; apologia_pro_vita_sua; ...
Ping

So the question must be asked: Do those who are in charge of the Vatican’s approach to "modern science" still believe in what the Church teaches concerning the origin of the human race? Or are we witnessing yet another sign of the great apostasy in the Catholic Church beginning at the top, which was predicted by the Third Secret of Fatima?

3 posted on 08/28/2004 9:33:16 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: AskStPhilomena

"In what appears to be its latest capitulation to worldly wisdom, the Vatican apparatus now assumes (contrary to the teaching of Pius XII in Humanae Generis) that the evolution of men from animals is a proven fact."

BFD.

So what if God used a method that looks like evolution to create man? When you're God, you do things the way you want to.


4 posted on 08/28/2004 9:34:08 PM PDT by dsc
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To: Land of the Irish
"Or are we witnessing yet another sign of the great apostasy in the Catholic Church beginning at the top, which was predicted by the Third Secret of Fatima?"

either that or great stupidity

well, maybe both
5 posted on 08/28/2004 9:35:45 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: dsc; AskStPhilomena
So what if God used a method that looks like evolution to create man?

God used no such method to create Adam and Eve.

6 posted on 08/28/2004 10:00:16 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: dsc

PROMOTION OF EVOLUTION

CCC, 283: ...scientific studies...have splendidly enriched our knowledge of the development of life-forms and the appearance of man.

To speak of the "development of life-forms" and scientific studies surrounding the "appearance of man" is unquestionably to speak of evolution - and to speak of enriching our knowledge of evolution is undeniably to imply that evolution is a fact, since knowledge is of truth, not error. The Catechism thus treats evolution as factual and certain. This approach to evolution, however, was condemned by Pope Pius XII in Humani Generis (36):

Some however rashly transgress this liberty of discussion, when they act as if the origin of the human body from pre-existing and living matter were already completely certain and proved by the fact...and as if there were nothing in the sources of divine revelation which demands the greatest moderation and caution in this question.

This passage in the Catechism is, then, at minimum a rash transgression.


7 posted on 08/28/2004 10:18:13 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: AskStPhilomena
"The purpose of this symposium is not to dispute this worldview... So, the Vatican does not dispute the view that the emergence of human life is merely incidental to the process of "evolution," whose truth is now apparently assumed.

In fairness, I think Chris is making an unwarranted leap in logic. To say the puropse of something is not to dispute X, doesn't mean that X isn't otherwise disputed. Now, he would be correct to say they are equivocating, or perhaps they are clear about that somewhere else.

8 posted on 08/28/2004 10:29:12 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Land of the Irish

"God used no such method to create Adam and Eve."

I don't see anything in the Scriptures to rule it out.

And frankly, I don't even think it's an important question.

God made man.

Did He do it this way, or did He do it that way?

How does the answer to that question affect what I should do today?


9 posted on 08/28/2004 10:51:47 PM PDT by dsc
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To: HawkeyeLonewolf

Amen brother. I will stick to God's Word rather than wisdom of men, no matter how "religious" they appear to be.


10 posted on 08/28/2004 11:46:05 PM PDT by NZerFromHK (Controversially right-wing by NZ standards: unashamedly pro-conservative-America)
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To: HawkeyeLonewolf

AMEN!!!!!


11 posted on 08/29/2004 12:03:28 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Secularization of America ALERT)
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To: HawkeyeLonewolf
Six literal days folks. You should be asking why did our Creator God take SO LONG not denying that He could do it in six days.

Absolutely!

12 posted on 08/29/2004 5:11:50 AM PDT by Stubborn (It is the Mass that matters)
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To: AskStPhilomena
Mr. Ferrara is being very unjust in casting the syposium in this manner. Now, it may be the case that he is fearful and suspicious but he shouldn't try to encourage others in those attitudes towards the Holy Father and The Magisterium.

Magisterium Is Concerned with Question of Evolution For It Involves Conception of Man

Pope John Paul II

Message to Pontifical Academy of Sciences October 22, 1996

To the Members of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences taking part in the Plenary Assembly

With great pleasure I address cordial greetings to you, Mr President, and to all of you who constitute the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, on the occasion of your plenary assembly. I offer my best wishes in particular to the new academicians, who have come to take part in your work for the first time. I would also like to remember the academicians who died during the past year, whom I commend to the Lord of life.

1. In celebrating the 60th anniversary of the Academy's refoundation, I would like to recall the intentions of my predecessor Pius XI, who wished to surround himself with a select group of scholars, relying on them to inform the Holy See in complete freedom about developments in scientific research, and thereby to assist him in his reflections.

He asked those whom he called the Church's Senatus scientificus to serve the truth. I again extend this same invitation to you today, certain that we will all be able to profit from the fruitfulness of a trustful dialogue between the Church and science (cf. Address to the Academy of Sciences, n. 1, 28 October 1986, L'Osservatore Romano English edition, 24 November 1986, p. 22).

Science at the dawn of the third millennium

2. I am pleased with the first theme you have chosen, that of the origins of life and evolution, an essential subject which deeply interests the Church, since Revelation, for its part, contains teaching concerning the nature and origins of man. How do the conclusions reached by the various scientific disciplines coincide with those contained in the message of Revelation? And if, at first sight, there are apparent contradictions, in what direction do we look for their solution? We know, in fact, that truth cannot contradict truth (cf. Leo XIII, Encyclical Providentissimus Deus). Moreover, to shed greater light on historical truth, your research on the Church's relations with science between the 16th and 18th centuries is of great importance.

During this plenary session' you are undertaking a "reflection on science at the dawn of the third millennium", starting with the identification of the principal problems created by the sciences and which affect humanity's future. With this step you point the way to solutions which will be beneficial to the whole human community. In the domain of inanimate and animate nature, the evolution of science and its applications gives rise to new questions. The better the Church's knowledge is of their essential aspects, the more she will understand their impact. Consequently, in accordance with her specific mission she will. be able to offer criteria for discerning the moral conduct required of all human beings in view of their integral salvation.

3. Before offering you several reflections that more specifically concern the subject of the origin of life and its evolution, I would like to remind you that the Magisterium of the Church has already made pronouncements on these matters within the framework of her own competence. I will cite here two interventions.

In his Encyclical Humani generis (1950), my predecessor Pius XII had already stated that there was no opposition between evolution and the doctrine of the faith about man and his vocation, on condition that one did not lose sight of several indisputable points (cf. AAS 42 [1950], pp. 575-576).

For my part, when I received those taking part in your Academy's plenary assembly on 31 October 1992, I had the opportunity, with regard to Galileo, to draw attention to the need of a rigorous hermeneutic for the correct interpretation of the inspired word. It is necessary to determine the proper sense of Scripture, while avoiding any unwarranted interpretations that make it say what it does not intend to say. In order to delineate the field of their own study, the exegete and the theologian must keep informed about the results achieved by the natural sciences (cf. AAS 85 [1993] pp. 764-772; Address to the Pontifical Biblical Commission, 23 April 1993, announcing the document on The interpretation of the Bible in the Church: AAS 86 [1994] pp. 232-243).

Evolution and the Church's Magisterium

4. Taking into account the state of scientific research at the time as well as of the requirements of theology, the Encyclical Humani generis considered the doctrine of "evolutionism" a serious hypothesis, worthy of investigation and in-depth study equal to that of the opposing hypothesis. Pius XII added two methodological conditions: that this opinion should not be adopted as though it were a certain, proven doctrine and as though one could totally prescind from Revelation with regard to the questions it raises. He also spelled out the condition on which this opinion would be compatible with the Christian faith, a point to which I will return.

Today, almost half a century after the publication of the Encyclical, new knowledge has led to the recognition of more than one hypothesis in the theory of evolution. It is indeed remarkable that this theory has been progressively accepted by researchers, following a series of discoveries in various fields of knowledge. The convergence, neither sought nor fabricated, of the results of work that was conducted independently is in itself a significant argument in favour of this theory.

What is the significance of such a theory? To address this question is to enter the field of epistemology. A theory is a metascientific elaboration, distinct from the results of observation but consistent with them. By means of it a series of independent data and facts can be related and interpreted in a unified explanation. A theory's validity depends on whether or not it can be verified, it is constantly tested against the facts; wherever it can no longer explain the latter, it shows its limitations and unsuitability. It must then be rethought.

Furthermore, while the formulation of a theory like that of evolution complies with the need for consistency with the observed data, it borrows certain notions from natural philosophy. And, to tell the truth, rather than the theory of evolution, we should speak of several theories of evolution. On the one hand, this plurality has to do with the different explanations advanced for the mechanism of evolution, and on the other, with the various philosophies on which it is based. Hence the existence of materialist, reduc tionist and spiritualist interpretations. What is to be decided here is the true role of philosophy and, beyond it, of theology.

5. The Church's Magisterium is directly concerned with the question of evolution, for it involves the conception of man: Revelation teaches us that he was created in the image and likeness of God (cf. Gn 1:27-29). The conciliar Constitution Gaudium et spes has magnificently explained this doctrine, which is pivotal to Christian thought. It recalled that man is :the only creature on earth that God has wanted for its own sake" (n. 24). In other terms, the human individual cannot be subordinated as a pure means or a pure instrument, either to the species or to society, he has value per se. He is a person. With his intellect and his will, he is capable of forming a relationship of communion, solidarity and self-giving with his peers. St Thomas observes that man's likeness to God resides especially in his speculative intellect for his relationship with the object of his knowledge resembles God's relationship with what he has created (Summa Theologica, I-II, q. 3, a. 5, ad 1). But even more, man is called to enter into a relationship of knowledge and love with God himself, a relationship which will find its complete fulfilment beyond time, in eternity. All the depth and grandeur of this vocation are revealed to us in the mystery of the risen Christ (cf. Gaudium et spes, n. 22). It is by virtue of his spiritual soul that the whole person possesses such a dignity even in his body. Pius XII stressed this essential point: if the human body takes its origin from pre-existent living matter the spiritual soul is immediately created by God ("animal enim a Deo immediate creari catholica fides nos retinere inhet"; Encyclical Humani generic, AAS 42 [1950], p. 575).

Consequently, theories of evolution which, in accordance with the philosophies inspiring them, consider the mind as emerging from the forces of living matter, or as a mere epiphenomenon of this matter, are incompatible with the truth about man. Nor are they able to ground the dignity of the person.

6. With man, then, we find ourselves in the presence of an ontological difference, an ontological leap, one could say. However, does not the posing of such ontological discontinuity run counter to that physical continuity which seems to be the main thread of research into evolution in the field of physics and chemistry? Consideration of the method used in the various branches of knowledge makes it possible to reconcile two points of view which would seem irreconcilable. The sciences of observation describe and measure the multiple manifestations of life with increasing precision and correlate them with the time line. The moment of transition into the spiritual cannot be the object of this kind of observation, which nevertheless can discover at the experimental level a series of very valuable signs indicating what is specific to the human being. But the experience of metaphysical knowledge, of self-awareness and self-reflection, of moral conscience, freedom, or again, of aesthetic and religious experience, falls within the competence of philosophical analysis and reflection while theology brings out its ultimate meaning according to the Creator's plans.

We are called to enter eternal life

7. In conclusion, I would like to call to mind a Gospel truth which can shed a higher light on the horizon of your research into the origins and unfolding of living matter. The Bible in fact bears an extraordinary message of life. It gives us a wise vision of life inasmuch as it describes the loftiest forms of existence. This vision guided me in the Encyclical which I dedicated to respect for human life, and which I called precisely Evangelium vitae.

It is significant that in St John's Gospel life refers to the divine light which Christ communicates to us. We are called to enter into eternal life, that is to say, into the eternity of divine beatitude.

To warn us against the serious temptations threatening us, our Lord quotes the great saying of Deuteronomy: "Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God" (Dt 8:3, cf. Mt 4:4).

Even more, "life" is one of the most beautiful titles which the Bible attributes to God. He is the living God.

I cordially invoke an abundance of divine blessings upon you and upon all who are close to you.

From the Vatican, 22 October 1996.

* end of quote*

One can adopt the fear and mistrust of a Mr. Ferrara or one can trust the Holy Spirit willl continue to work through the Magisterium.

For me, Faith and Trust is a lot more enjoyable - and rational -because those approaches are based upon the promises of Christ - Matt 16:18.

13 posted on 08/29/2004 6:03:00 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: HawkeyeLonewolf

The Catholic expectation that creation took untold millennia precedes Darwin by many, many centuries. I'm looking up the quotes from St. Thomas Aquinas, now...


14 posted on 08/29/2004 6:24:15 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Land of the Irish

That quote from Humani Generis does not establish that evolution is heresy, or even incorrect. It merely states that "the greatest moderation and caution" should be used before it is accepted within the church." The symposium recognizes the fact that "Put crudely, the widely accepted scientific worldview is that human beings or any other product of evolutionary diversification is accidental and, by implication, incidental." The symposium is assuming evolution for the purpose of determining whether evolution necessitates such an atheistic world view.

The plain purpose, then, of assuming evolution is not to recognize that evolution is fact, but rather to examine evolution as it presently understood by biologists. So what the symposium is doing is actually fully in line with the excerpt from Humani Generis: It is trying to separate the necessary implications of evolution from among those present presumptions which pit evolution against God. Presumably, if this effort fails, than the Church would do something that the excerpt does not: condemn evolution, and formulate a response, an alternate explanation to account for the observations of biologists. If it succeeds, than the Church presumably would try to reconcile evolution to divine revelation.

Keep this is mind: A symposium was held on the Big Bang. The Pope discussed his understandings with Steven Hawkins. Steven Hawkins wrote that the Pope showed a masterful understanding of the Physics involved. So when the Pope asserted that the Big Bang actually confirmed the teachings of the Catholic Church, Hawkins, a devoted atheist, was alarmed so gravely that he has devoted every moment of his research since to promoting theories which are contradictory to the Big Bang, and which are shown to be in contradiction to observation at every turn.


15 posted on 08/29/2004 6:54:26 AM PDT by dangus
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To: nickcarraway; bornacatholic; NYer; Salvation
In fairness, I think Chris is making an unwarranted leap in logic.

       it may be the case that he is fearful and suspicious but he shouldn't try to encourage others in those attitudes towards the Holy Father and The Magisterium....  One can adopt the fear and mistrust of a Mr. Ferrara or one can trust the Holy Spirit willl continue to work through the Magisterium.      For me, Faith and Trust is a lot more enjoyable - and rational -because those approaches are based upon the promises of Christ - Matt 16:18.


nick, yours is a valid point, thank you!

bornacatholic, a belated Welcome to FR!, and thank you for supplementing the thread and countering shortcomings.  If you should decide that your FReeping mission is to 'round out' such dispatches, I hope I'll see them  -- actually I'd welcome a ping :-) -- because your sentiments stem from appreciation of the beauty in Catholicism, and as such, make for enjoyable reading.  

Perhaps you already know (since I'm a week late on your welcome), but two tips I'd like to share:  NYer's ping list gives the 'heads up' on many threads with good Catholic reading, and Salvation's Daily Readings threads are 'must see' too.

Pax et bonum.
16 posted on 08/29/2004 6:58:27 AM PDT by GirlShortstop (« O sublime humility! That the Lord... should humble Himself like this... »)
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To: dsc

>> How does the answer to that question affect what I should do today?<<

It doesn't, unless you wish to become a professional in one of the many fields which are served by an understanding of biology. Pitting biology against religion results in the exclusion of religious people in fields such as science education, medicine, nutrition, pharmacy, and of course, science itself.


17 posted on 08/29/2004 6:58:54 AM PDT by dangus
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To: GirlShortstop

Thanks for the welcome. I have already requested inclusion on the ping lists you suggested.


18 posted on 08/29/2004 7:01:15 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: dangus

I don't think there's anything keeping me from becoming a professional in one of those fields, except garden variety dumbitude.

Einstein said that science was thinking God's thoughts after him. That's not at variance with Catholicism as I understand it.


19 posted on 08/29/2004 7:04:29 AM PDT by dsc
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To: dsc
I don't see anything in the Scriptures to rule it out. I don't see anything in the Scriptures to rule it out.

Six days. Are you claiming that on day one he created monkeys and on day seven the monkeys were man?

20 posted on 08/29/2004 7:23:16 AM PDT by Grey Ghost II
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