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An Extraordinary Prophecy (Hal Lindsey on the Pope)
hal lindsey oracle ^ | 4/09/2005 | Hal Lindsey

Posted on 04/10/2005 4:59:54 PM PDT by diverteach

Modern communication technology has helped make the Pope’s death an unparalleled event. The entire world has literally come together to praise this one man. I find that many sense that there will be some important and climactic consequences to follow the death of this Pope.

As I studied the many Bible prophecies of the Last Days, I found a most unusual extra-Biblical prophecy made by an Irish Catholic Bishop in the 12th Century. His name is St. Malachy. According to his biographer St. Bernard of Clairvaux, in his book Life of Saint Malachy, St. Malachy was known to have the gift of prophesy and even predicted the exact day and hour of his own death. St. Malachy was canonized in 1190 by Pope Clement III.

According to his biographer, St. Malachy was visiting Rome in 1139 when he went into a trance and received a vision. Malachy wrote down this extraordinary vision in which he claims to have foreseen all of the Popes from the death of Innocent II until the destruction of the Church and the Return of Christ. He named exactly 112 Popes from that time until the end.

St. Malachy wrote a few prophetically descriptive words in Latin about each one of the Popes. He then gave the manuscript to Pope Innocent II and it was deposited in the Vatican Archives where it was forgotten for several centuries. Then in 1590, it was rediscovered and published.

The interesting thing is that scholars have matched the brief 110 descriptive predictions with each of the 110 Popes and anti-Popes that there have been since Innocent II. Though they are a bit obscure, they have fit the general profile of each of the Popes.

Now these are in no way the same kind of predictions we find in the Bible....

(Excerpt) Read more at hallindseyoracle.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; History; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Theology
KEYWORDS: anticatholicism; bigotry; hallindsey; johnpaulii; malachy; pope; prophecy
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To: jude24

True St. Malachy may not be prophecy but Hal Lindsey is great and if he's right and you're all wrong....well, time will tell won't it. I personally love him. Does that make me bad? Nevermind no need to upset my lovely day. Let me live in a delusional world. thanks. BTW, you guys are awfully tough on a man of God aren't you?


41 posted on 04/11/2005 5:50:04 PM PDT by queenkathy (Can't think of anything cute for my tagline)
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To: mjtobias

"St. Malachy's Alleged Prophecy: Did He Predict The Last Sequence Of Popes?"

Answ: NO.

"Looks like Hal has done his research."

Looks like another modern-day Nostryl.



Could you please share your information regarding St. Malachy's prophecies with a link? You claimed you have read them all.

Looks like this site with all the prophecies of St. Malechy is wrong, then? http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp

I guess Hal was mis -informed then, wouldn't you say? Now all these sites say the same thing, so if you could give us a site that says something different, then you can back up you claim.

All I am saying is Hal has done his research in the matter, and it has been back up by sources. No one is saying the prophecies are true, not even Hal. If you can come up with another source to prove Hal's research is not accurate, let us see it.




42 posted on 04/11/2005 5:53:03 PM PDT by Daisy4
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To: queenkathy
BTW, you guys are awfully tough on a man of God aren't you?

Men of God do not make false prophecies.. In the Old Covenant, false prophets were stoned. In the New, they should be ostracized.

Go to a library, and get Late Great Planet Earth. See how, because of his expertise as a Bible teacher, he thought in the 1970's the Soviet Union would ally with Libya, swoop in, take over Israel, and get their butts handed to them. When Y2K happened, he was at the fore of the "end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it" types. Both were grand fizzles. After either, he should have quietly stepped aside, never to speculate prophetically again.

If you want to listen to a riverboat pilot without a college degree, be my guest. He doesn't have the expertise in Biblical exegesis to know what he's talking about. But understand, those of us who know anything about historical theology only snicker when presented with Hal Lindsey's attempts to peddle his scaremongering.

43 posted on 04/11/2005 5:56:16 PM PDT by jude24 (The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then gets elected and proves it.)
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To: Daisy4

"I guess Hal was mis -informed then, wouldn't you say?"

No, this guy is not misinformed, he, and people like him, are dishonest in that they intentionally misleads people so they can sell his videos, books and various assorted trashy parapernalia.

"Now all these sites say the same thing, so if you could give us a site that says something different, then you can back up you claim."

If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it's still a foolish thing.

I see you're not well informed. I'm not gonna do the search for you. If you wish to know more, do the search yourself.


44 posted on 04/11/2005 6:14:17 PM PDT by mjtobias (Our love for Terri was immense; her parents' love was infinite; God's love is everlasting.)
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To: Tantumergo
Interesting in that Lindsay must be getting quite desparate if he's started counting Popes to back up his theories!

Not surprising really. Hal Lindsey is a sophist, and will try to sell most anything. After all, he has his third, younger wife to keep in style, as well as the other first two.

As you have demised, I am no Hal Lindsey fan. Not even close.

45 posted on 04/11/2005 6:15:44 PM PDT by Fiat volvntas tva (I believe in order that I may understand. (St. Augustine))
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To: gentlestrength
Another typical Lindsey fleecing of the flock.

His eschatology has already been proven false. Jesus was supposed to return in 1981 according to him. He's a false prophet. Then he just keeps changing the date, and people are stupid enough to buy the books.

We are in the 'end times' ever since Jesus left us. There are no unfulfilled prophecies. We are to be ready for His Second Coming at any time.

Scripture says we are to avoid false prophets.

Well said.

46 posted on 04/11/2005 6:19:02 PM PDT by Fiat volvntas tva (I believe in order that I may understand. (St. Augustine))
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To: jude24

WEll, we will respectfully disagree then. I think Hal only speculates on what he thinks MIGHT happen. He doesn't say something for sure will definitly happen. IMHO..I read his book and get his Prophecy Updates daily and I don't take anything anyone says along these lines as definite. But there is no reason to bash him. One thing about Prophecy...it either will or will not happen. But the Bible says there is a crown ready for those who look for the return of the Lord. Hey I can use all the help I can get.


47 posted on 04/11/2005 6:21:28 PM PDT by queenkathy (Can't think of anything cute for my tagline)
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To: topcat54
More often than not he has been wrong with his "suggestions" on the unfolding of events.

But as long as Lindsey can keep changing the predictions, he keeps the hook set and the books rolling off the press to a duped audience.

48 posted on 04/11/2005 6:21:46 PM PDT by Fiat volvntas tva (I believe in order that I may understand. (St. Augustine))
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To: queenkathy
Because the Bible teaches that in the last days there will be scoffers and mockers of the Word.

No one is scoffing or mocking God's Word, or the Return of Christ.

We scoff at Hal Lindsey's scriptorture, eisegesis and failed "oracles".

49 posted on 04/11/2005 6:23:45 PM PDT by Fiat volvntas tva (I believe in order that I may understand. (St. Augustine))
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To: mjtobias

"No, this guy is not misinformed, he, and people like him, are dishonest in that they intentionally misleads people so they can sell his videos, books and various assorted trashy parapernalia"



The last link I provided was from a catholic site, which wrote the same thing Hal wrote in his article. Are they wrong, too?


"I see you're not well informed. I'm not gonna do the search for you. If you wish to know more, do the search yourself"

I already did a search and they all say the same thing, and you cannot back up your claim except with a rant.


50 posted on 04/11/2005 6:25:30 PM PDT by Daisy4
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To: queenkathy
And you don't think the decade of the 80's was the last of history as we knew it? Don't you think things have gone downhill in the 90's...I sure wish for the good old days.

In reality, things have been "going downhill" since the 60's, but then the table was set for the 60's in the 50's, which the table was set for the decline in the 50's way back in the early 20th century with the rise of Darwinism, eugenics, new age concepts such as Theosophy, etc.

51 posted on 04/11/2005 6:27:23 PM PDT by Fiat volvntas tva (I believe in order that I may understand. (St. Augustine))
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To: Daisy4
Looks like Hal has done his research.

The Malachy prophecies are old news. Anyone who can do a google search can find it in 5 seconds, like I did 9 years ago.

52 posted on 04/11/2005 6:29:07 PM PDT by Fiat volvntas tva (I believe in order that I may understand. (St. Augustine))
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To: Daisy4
"I see you're not well informed."

Go back and check your writing. You're the one making interrogative sentences. And I have answered them.

This Hal guy is another charlatan - fake, fraud and phony - like the master of all charlatans - Nostryl-damus.
53 posted on 04/11/2005 6:32:57 PM PDT by mjtobias (Our love for Terri was immense; her parents' love was infinite; God's love is everlasting.)
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To: queenkathy
I read his book and get his Prophecy Updates daily...

Hal has to update his prophecies daily, that's how often they change.

54 posted on 04/11/2005 6:34:37 PM PDT by Fiat volvntas tva (I believe in order that I may understand. (St. Augustine))
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To: diverteach

While the entire Christian world mourns the Pope's passing, Lindsey further clarifies his anti-Catholic bigotry.


55 posted on 04/11/2005 6:34:56 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Fiat volvntas tva

I first read them like 15 years ago.

Re-read and analyzed them. Bunk.


56 posted on 04/11/2005 6:36:14 PM PDT by mjtobias (Our love for Terri was immense; her parents' love was infinite; God's love is everlasting.)
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To: Fiat volvntas tva

Fair enough. You have a right to your opinions...Have a great night...btw, what does your name mean?


57 posted on 04/11/2005 6:38:31 PM PDT by queenkathy (Can't think of anything cute for my tagline)
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To: wagglebee

"Lindsey further clarifies his anti-Catholic bigotry."

Right you are. All the while selling books and enriching himself. He should go find himself a real job instead of bilking the uninformeds and naives.


58 posted on 04/11/2005 6:38:38 PM PDT by mjtobias (Our love for Terri was immense; her parents' love was infinite; God's love is everlasting.)
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To: mjtobias

I've read all of the papal prophecies by Malachy and he didn't predict anything.

The author of this drivel is another charlatan, like all the rest.

Posted by mjtabias

Enough said.


59 posted on 04/11/2005 6:38:39 PM PDT by Daisy4
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To: queenkathy

I think it means, "your will be done."


60 posted on 04/11/2005 6:40:09 PM PDT by mjtobias (Our love for Terri was immense; her parents' love was infinite; God's love is everlasting.)
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