Posted on 06/01/2006 8:44:27 AM PDT by NYer
The fledgling congregation gathered in a circle at Sunday Mass at Spartan Memorial Chapel to introduce themselves. A woman in a long, white robe spoke first.
``My name is Victoria Rue,'' she said. ``And I am a Roman Catholic woman priest.''
Rue belongs to a renegade movement that is ordaining women as Catholic priests, in defiance of the Vatican. Today, Rue celebrates Mass at the non-denominational chapel at San Jose State University.
Joining her at the altar on Sundays -- also in clerical robes -- have been a married man, his wife and another woman. The ceremonies prompted the Diocese of San Jose this month to warn Catholics that the sacraments there would be invalid.
It's a prickly issue more Catholic dioceses will face as increasing numbers of women join the ordination movement.
``God has called me,'' said Juanita Cordero, a Los Gatos woman who will soon be ordained as a deacon and aims to be a priest by 2007. ``Growing up it was never a possibility because it was always for men.''
Cordero, a former nun, is among 120 women enrolled in the Roman Catholic Womenpriests program, which has been boldly ordaining groups of women as priests and deacons.
A dozen will be ordained in Pittsburgh on July 31, including Cordero and women from Carmel and Pismo Beach. Another woman -- fearful that her bishop will quickly excommunicate her -- will only say she's from the Bay Area.
Those women plan to eventually work as priests, offering pastoral care and presiding over rituals ranging from baptisms to weddings to Mass.
The church says the movement is built on a falsehood: Women can't be priests, so whatever ceremonies they hold are moot.
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Ya think?
Spoken like a true ignoramous. The Catholic Church has repeatedly condemned these renegade organizations who want to ordain women as priests. They in fact incur automatic excommunication from the Catholic Church when they pretend to be 'priests'.
As for the homosexual priests who abused Catholic boys, the "Church" did not allow this either, at least not the real Church. A few Cardinals/Bishops tried to cover it up to protect the Church from calumniation and media assassination and the attornies of the abused boys, (who are 'Officials of the Court' and bound by law to report these incidences at a time when the Church was not), were only too happy to accept money as full compensation for the crimes and not report them to the police. It was covered up all around, BY EVERYBODY, which was wrong, dead wrong.
But those who care to learn or understand what the Catholic Church teaches and has always taught regarding the ordination of homosexual perverts to the priesthood will know that gays are officially prohobited from ordination by the Vatican. It's also important to understand that the Catholic Church in America is largely led by renegade, LIBERAL Bishops who snub Vatican authority with regularity.
The Pope could no more stop these queers from slipping into the priesthood than President Bush can stop homosexual-pedophile teachers from getting certified and then abusing children. (By the way, American school teachers have a far, far higher rate of sexual abuse of children than did the Church have). The Church debacle has caused a full clean out of the problem, at least for now. Meanwhile, sexual abuse of children is still rampant in America from coast to coast, on a much greater scale than what happened in the Church; but mindless bigots like you just don't get it.
According to their web site:
"We love our family, the Catholic Church. We fully accept the authority of the Pope. We respect his personal integrity as an outstanding spiritual leader. But we are convinced that the Pope and his advisors in Rome are making a serious mistake by dismissing women as priests. We feel obliged in conscience to make our carefully considered reasons known."
These people just want to show off, nothing more.
You're right, of course. Notice from the above article that ......
"A dozen will be ordained in Pittsburgh on July 31, including Cordero and women from Carmel and Pismo Beach. Another woman -- fearful that her bishop will quickly excommunicate her -- will only say she's from the Bay Area."
If you can stomach it, here is a link to their web site:
Bring back the Inquisition! :
[Tongue in cheek] I agree with you.
I grew up with Catholic priests, got served by Catholic priests, have seen over twenty of my friends ordinations as Catholic priests, I even pray for Catholic priests... you... are no Catholic priest.
Yes, it is half of an Eggo waffle. Can't you hear the other lady saying, "Hey, let go of my Eggo!"
What I find truly sad is how many baptized and (allegedly) practicing Roman Catholics this woman has encouraging this fraud, thinking in their own minds that they are receiving Holy Communion instead of nothing more than an ordinary waffle, or whatever it is being held there in the picture. Bad enough individuals wish to decide their own practices, but when *regular folk* allow themselves to be corrupted in this manner, such a shame.
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I don't know what she's hearing, but I am doubtful it is God.
Is that a WEDDING RING I see underneath that waffle??!!??
Groan. But then this whole thing is pretty much parody.
Is that a WEDDING RING I see underneath that waffle??!!??
Sure looks like it.
Umm, no, she's NOT.
Wow! BINGO!!
I think they do this in an attempt to give the Roman Catholic Church a "black eye." The pity of it is that none of them seems to have even the slightest notion of what the Roman Catholic Church consists of or believes in. I guess they think all they have to do is label themseves and copy the externals, and that makes them "Catholic." They really are pitiful and pathetic, and a perfect example of what the modernizers, wreckovators, and infiltrators have had in mind for the last fifty years. Gramschi would be proud.
1. Yes, its a waffle.
2. Yes, she's a she.
3. Yes, its Boone's Farm in the glass decanter.
4. Yes, she's wearing a rain poncho that has Mickey Mouse on the back.
5. Yes, that is a wedding ring.
6. Yes, that is her wife (at least in MA) holding the script telling her what to say.
Anything other insult she can add to the list while still claiming to be Roman Catholic?
LOL!
BTW, I was about to make uncharitable comments about the appearance of Vickie and her brood, but I got a grip and am currently restraining myself. Nonetheless, as a general matter and with no personal reference, I still want to know why the gals who go out for this all look so freaky.
LOL. That is probably a pretty good strategy.
'"Anywhere from three to 30 people have attended the services, which began in March. Though the services contain the hallmarks of a Catholic Mass, some rituals have been tweaked. Clergy and laity gather and walk to the front of the church. Phrases such as ``our mother'' and ``she'' are regularly interspersed with the more familiar ``our Father'' and ``he.'' Homilies resemble Bible study sessions as priests sit and invite congregants to share their thoughts on the teachings.'
Now they've descended into New Age goo and egalitarian feel good semantics - everyone's viewpoints are equally valid. Like all heretical movements doomed to fail, they go too far with this.
'``I just knew so many spiritual, educated women in my life. I wonder if they were priests what could they have accomplished.'''
Mother Theresa was not a priest. Being a priest in and of itself is not an accomplishment. What one makes of one's life is what is important.
'"She knows some will treat her as an outcast in the faith she deeply loves. She's currently using her maiden name, not wanting to be excommunicated before she becomes a priest.'
Ah, so she has to lie in order to sneak herself into becoming a "priest". If she was so principled, she should be willing to subject herself to excommunication. These people are a bunch of phonies.
No pun intended I'm sure.
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