Posted on 08/17/2006 6:56:14 PM PDT by Quix
[Quix note: The green bold emphases are in the original. But I'm too tired to code them here or even to pour it through Word to do it. Sorry. I did use some spacing, paragraphing for emphasis on the fly]
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Lengthy Mel Gibson Codes Presage DUI Incident
The May 2004 issue of Bible Code Digest (BCD) featured an article
http://www.biblecodedigest.com/page.php/232
[May 2004 original article]
describing a 146-letter-long code about Mel Gibson. This astonishing code portrayed him as being guilty of something and of being "rotten." Interwoven codes further described him as hurrying and insulting from a "record" (a DUI charge?). They also alluded to someone fixing the story, or not telling it right.
Two years ago, the orthodox Jewish translator of this code, Moshe Aharon Shak, interpreted some elements of the code as references to the making of the film The Passion of the Christ. We published his account,
even though we begged to differ with his interpretations, because the code was the longest one discovered to date at that time.
Furthermore, the code was interlaced with a 109-letter-long code, running the opposite direction. And Shak found two 44-letter-long codes and a 27-letter-long code, at multiples of the skip of the original code.
This collection of five codes was so long and so tightly interlaced that it had to be intentionally encoded. It deserved full disclosure in spite of its troublesome content.
In the May 2004 BCD issue, Shak's article was prefaced by BCD editors with suggestions that the codes could have referred to events earlier in Gibson's life, when he was, by his own admission, a "rotten" person. After Gibson's DUI incident hit the news, however, the content of this code seems predictive of that event, over two years prior to its occurrence. While the references in the code are certainly open to a wide variety of interpretations, many elements of it seem eerily prophetic of Gibson's debacle.
Key Excerpts
Here are some key excerpts from the code discoveries, with possible interpretations in brackets:
Comes an honest, wholehearted person to Gibson: "Guilty one!" [Police charge him.]
Hashem: "Mel is rotten." [Hashem is a Hebrew name for God, which means The Name.]
He insulted from a record. Ah, you are in a heap of ruins. [Gibson allegedly uttered anti-Semitic and sexist insults to the arresting officer after being apprehended for speeding and DUI. News of this has brought Gibson's reputation and future into jeopardy. The code implies that Gibson's ruin will be the direct result of the insults he made.]
The one who fixed outside, tell it right! [The initial police report did not disclose the nature of Gibson's behavior nor his comments.]
Mel hurried a thorn that lived and therefore a thick forest died. [Speeding? Gibson was doing 87 in a 45 zone. His remarks, a thorn, received widespread press, causing a forest to die to supply the newsprint.]
And the wicked person: "Let us cut out the 60 (true parts – leave in the wrong part); let us become (pretend that we are) naïve." [Could this refer to the policeman who tried to cover up what happened when Gibson was apprehended?]
I was a suckling to the version. Here I will stir to loathe. [The version could be the anti-Semitic point of view. Mel Gibson learned this point of view from his father. It is unclear whether loathe refers to the way that anti-Semitic people loathe Jews or to whether Mel Gibson is loathing the views of his father.] Deceive! Can you understand that God the supreme will hit? This is from the One God, to them. [Here the one speaking appears to shift from a person to God Himself.]
Further interpretations are certainly possible for the above, as well as the remaining parts of the five codes. For example, the Hebrew word for "drink" appears within the longest code, if one of the spaces between letters is shifted. Shak's translation of the five interlaced codes appears in the May 2004 article, and the codes are recapped below.
Most Bible codes are prophetic fragments. Their general language and uncertainty as to context (e.g., who is speaking and which nearby codes are related) render such codes unreliable as the basis for making predictions. Typically, after an event has occurred, however, it is easy to observe numerous possible references to that event within a group of codes.
Recap of Shak's Translation of the Five Lengthy Mel Gibson Codes
146-Letter-Long Code (Skip = 3,806)
The ones that made me, the mob, was blackened by me (one hundred are his Gods). The one who fixed outside, tell it right! Please cut off 60! Comes an honest, a wholehearted person to Gibson: "Guilty one! Are the nation and God a joke? Does a heap of ruins a place to permanently place water? No!" (That is) His line! It is their anger! The story of creation the guilty one will negate! He placed permanently, and he insulted from a record. Ah, you are in a heap of ruins. It is a beautiful hotel that is a heap of ruins (that is Kosher). Hashem: "Mel is rotten." It has to be said, "God is one." My God! Hashem is the one that kills. He killed; or, another interpretation: "because Hashem is God."
109-Letter-Long Code (Skip = -3,806, the opposite direction of 146-letter-long code)
"Hashem! But the ruins of His anger you are." A plain person: "What? Hey, there is not one God. I have 100." Mel hurried a thorn that lived and therefore a thick forest died. Aha, a man of cheatings! Established a negative thing. Booty, present, he loved. Where from? From a different interpretation! Was it a nail? A hundred? God – who died? It is a cement as a savior to the United Nations. Seventy owe. Well, will an old wise man wrap up the Bible? Come . . .
Note: Seventy is a Biblical reference to the number of non-Jewish nations.
44-Letter-Long Code (Skip = 7,612, double that of the longest code)
For me the 60 is convenient. I was a suckling to the version. Here I will stir to loathe. Deceive! Can you understand that God the supreme will hit? This is from the One God, to them.
Note: According to Jewish law, one part of 60 does not contaminate the bulk. The implication here is that the whole is contaminated (all 60 parts).
44-Letter-Long Code (Skip = 11,418, triple that of the longest code)
"To riches he comes as very excited. He has cynics." (It is) my mouth. "(Mel's cynics) entertained at God's (expense)." Who? The seventy (non-Jewish Biblical nations of the world) in that way. Mel is fear. "I am first!"
27-Letter-Long Code (Skip = -11,418, triple that of the longest code, and in the opposite direction)
A story that in his mother, the man of God. And the wicked person: "Let us cut out the 60 (true parts – leave in the wrong part); let us pretend that we are naïve."
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Look, I don't care how many websites you give me supporting this heresy, it doesn't make it a fact.
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Evidently I've failed to communicate clearly.
It does not have ANYthing to do with the number of websites.
It has to do with:
1. God and His tweaking of the super rationalists, naturalists, atheists etc. . . . some of whom have become believers through the codes.
2. Basic logic regarding basic facts and God's nature, priorities, preferences.
3. Basic scientific facts involving astronomical probabilities well beyond chance to the extreme.
The number of websites has nothing to do with it.
Well D-U-H!!! Wasn't there a particular group of people ticked off at Mel Gibson in 2004 about The Passion of the Christ!
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Jumping tracks in the middle of an illogical argument doesn't make the case well for me, at all.
1. Such groups of people had absolutely no influence on the structure etc. of the Codes found about Mel in 2004. THAT WAS A STRICTLY STATISTICAL, MATHEMATICAL PROCESS. I thought that was better known.
One would think that even naysayers throwing illogical rocks would know the basics of the issues and science involved. Amazing.
I'm sorry but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out an Orthodox Jewish translator of the code, Moshe Aharon Shak, all of a sudden finding a code calling Mel names and trying to grind his name in the dirt JUST about the same time The Passion is being released, that it's not science, it's vengeance!!
Do you honestly think that God has it in for Mel Gibson for making The Passion of the Christ as this man is trying to claim? For simply retelling the last hours of our Blessed Lord on earth? That movie helped to bring a lot of people to Jesus Christ and was a great evangelical tool. Yeah, Mel Gibson is ROTTEN TO THE CORE over that one! Good grief! I bet God is going to send him to the lowest pits of Hell over that!
I have a lot of faith and confidence in the objectivity of the Jewish scholars involved in code research. IIRC, more than one of them have has become a believer in Jesus as their Messiah as a result of the code research.
I won't begin to guess God's thinking and feelings about any number of people, including the complex character of Mel Gibson. And, some would say God spoke in hyperbole in parts of the Old Testament. He can choose to do so about Mel for whatever reasons.
He does happen to be
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drum roll . . .
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GOD!
ACTUALLY,
The objectivity, biases, whatever of the Jewish scholars doing the code research doesn't really have much to do with anything about the codes as long as they are honest. But even if they were dishonest--which none have been--THE CODE ANALYSIS IS STRICTLY MATHEMATICAL AND OBJECTIVE.
Even the interpretation of the resulting Hebrew is limited to relatively few options and often one or two options which are all listed as possibilities.
I think the good Jewish scholars are owed an apology.
I hope when I pontificate, I have a better grasp of the topic concerned.
I've got a drum roll for you!
"I am against the prophets that have lying dreams, saith the Lord: and tell them, and cause my people to err by their lying, and by their wonders: when I sent them not, nor commanded them, who have not profited this people at all, saith the Lord."
Another one from Jeremiah:
"I did not send prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied."
I have a lot of faith and confidence in the objectivity of the Jewish scholars involved in code research. IIRC, more than one of them have has become a believer in Jesus as their Messiah as a result of the code research.
What are you doing putting your faith in Jewish scholars of some heretical code? Shouldn't your faith be in Jesus Christ who revealed ALL truth? They have no truth to share with you. They'll be happy to take your money though for their secrets. How many Bible code books have you purchased? I noticed on the website, BibleCode Digest that you gave us, they couldn't reveal the latest "bombshell." No, you have to buy that before they will tell you. They are making merchandise of people.
It shouldn't be a fake Bible code brining them to Jesus Christ. It should be the clear words of Sacred Scripture. If they can't see it there, I feel for them.
Don't hold your breath if you expect one from me. They should be apologizing for ripping people off of their money for this heresy.
Doesn't happen to be fake.
My faith is 100% solidly in Christ Jesus.
And in all HE does.
He is . . . the LIVING WORD.
On that we can agree and it doesn't take a code to figure it out.
I suspect The Lord God Almighty is not pleased when anyone--especially His Beloved Blood Israel folks--and diligent, earnest scholars of His written Word--are falsely accused of dishonesty.
If that is suppose to scare me, it doesn't. The Lord also expects us to speak out against those who are dishonest.
I'm confident The Lord has an accurate assessment in this and all other cases.
Quix: Please do not speak for the Lord until you are in the program. Thanks.
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Let me know when these bible codes provide ADVANCE notice of a seemingly-unpredictable event.
What does the Bible Code say about Cynthia McKinney's Bodyguards making anti-Semitic statements election night in Georgia which were FAR worse than anything Mel Gibson said.
McKinney Supporters Blaming Jews
This article covers up the rest of the remarks they made, but I saw it on O'Reilly. The media present were called by McKinney's bodyguards, "Jew Boys" and several choice names that I can not repeat in the Religion Forum. Hmmph! Ironic that the Bible Code scholars haven't found that one...yet!
I'll try and speak as I'm convinced The Lord would have me speak the rest of my life . . . as I have increasingly endeavored to do heretofore.
It is HIS program I subscribe to. None other.
I don't usually advise scoffing at things The Lord does or is about. Actually, never. Don't think I'll start.
Further, you are taking another's work and ascribing the Lord's name to it.
The program starts when your spiritual blindness is healed.
I pray that everyone's spiritual blindness be healed.
I personally expect Jesus Christ THE MESSIAH to arrive back in our time/space dimension
1. to meet us in the air as Scripture describes
2. to come as THE MAJESTIC CONQUERING KING as Revelation describes.
I'm not real impressed with net versions of a lot of things.
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