Progress: Benedict and Bartholomew to Meet Again

National Catholic Register ^ | December 24, 2006 | EDWARD PENTIN

[ELS]

Having seen the Tridentine High Mass, a lot of that reverence and frequent signs of the cross and kissing of the priest's right hand was still part of the reverence of the Latin Church that has been since lost in the post-Vatican II period.

Thank you, kosta, and may you have a blessed Christmas!

[TexConfederate1861]

Amen my Brother. Merry Christmas to you & Yours!

[NYer]

As to whether a Pope must be a Latin Rite bishop, ordianed Latin Rite priest, or anyone, I ask Catholic Freepers to clarify.

First off, the bishop must be a 'Cardinal' and under the age of 80 to vote in the Conclave. In the 2005 Papal Conclave, there were several 'Eastern Catholic' voting members (like Cardinal Husar) and others who have exceded the voting age and served as observers.

Ultimately, it is the Holy Spirit who chooses the successor of St. Peter. That is and has always been our faith. Pope Benedict XVI is an excellent example of this.

[NYer]

I believe it used to be, but it was lost. Having seen the Tridentine High Mass, a lot of that reverence and frequent signs of the cross and kissing of the priest's right hand was still part of the reverence of the Latin Church that has been since lost in the post-Vatican II period.

Perhaps one has to dig deeper into RC history to find this but in my lifetime (which predates VCII), I don't recall any of what you mention.

In the Eastern Catholic Churches, the norm is for the priest to make profound bows before the Blessed Sacrament. Genuflection is a western (i.e. Latin) tradition. During the Pope's visit to Turkey, I watched the Patriarch's Divine Liturgy and felt quite comfortable (except for the distribution of communion), with the traditions exhibited. Like the Greek Orthodox Church, the Maronite Catholics use incense at every divine liturgy and also in the novenas celebrated. When the bishop comes to visit, those invited to proclaim the Readings do so only after they have asked for the Bishop's blessing and kissed his ring.

Again, I don't recall this in the RC Church as part of the Mass but perhaps I wasn't paying close enough attention.

[kosta50]

You may go back and check out the video you posted (I believe) of the Traditional Easter High Mass in 1944.

[The_Reader_David]

This is good news, but as I pointed out in my reaction to the joint communique released by Pope Benedect and Patriarch Bartholemew on the occasion of the Pope's visit to Constantinople, the joint statements coming from meetings in which the Slavic churches are involved always seem weightier and more like real progress toward union, even if they aren't so warm in tone.

[eastsider]

... the fact that the EP and the Patriarch likely will jointly preside over a collection of Catholic and Orthodox theologians is "religious world" shaking.

Religious global warming : )