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MAJOR COUNCILS OF THE CHURCH - 1st Council of Nicaea - 325 A.D. (1st in a series)
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Posted on 05/19/2007 3:06:54 PM PDT by NYer

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To: NYer
This the history of YOUR Church

No it is not the history of my church It is the history of the great falling away of the Church of Christ. If the author wanted to start with the counsel of the church of Christ. instead of the catholic church he would have started with the counsel of Jerusalem.

could it be the in his heart he knows the diffrance?

21 posted on 05/19/2007 5:09:05 PM PDT by bremenboy (Just Because I Am Born Again Doesn't Mean I was Born Again Yesterday)
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To: NYer
This the history of YOUR Church

No it is not the history of my church. It is the history of the great falling away of the Church of GOD. If the author wanted to start with the counsel of the church of Christ. instead of the catholic church he would have started with the counsel of Jerusalem.

could it be the in his heart he knows the difference?

22 posted on 05/19/2007 5:10:51 PM PDT by bremenboy (Just Because I Am Born Again Doesn't Mean I was Born Again Yesterday)
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To: bremenboy
If the author wanted to start with the counsel of the church of Christ. instead of the catholic church he would have started with the counsel of Jerusalem.

"Council of Jerusalem" is a name applied subsequently to a meeting described in Acts of the Apostles chapter 15 and probably referred to in St. Paul's letter to the Galatians. Paul claims he "went up again to Jerusalem" ( ie a second time) with Barnabas and Titus "in response to a revelation", in order to "lay before them the gospel (he) proclaimed among the Gentiles" (Gal 2:2); them being according to Paul "those who were supposed to be acknowledged leaders" (Gal 2:6): James, Cephas and John/ He describes this as a "private meeting" (not a public council) and notes that neither he nor Titus, who was Greek, were pressurised to be circumcised.

23 posted on 05/19/2007 5:33:33 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer; tantiboh; sevenbak; nowandlater; DelphiUser; Saundra Duffy; colorcountry; greyfoxx39; ...

Thank you for the further explanation. Forgive the possible contention which may follow, but I am pinging a few Mormon Apologists whom I have tried to persuade regarding Romney’s candidacy and the huge negatives which his religion will present to the DNC goon squad. These Apologists pulled me into exchanges over the person of Christ and the false claim by Mormonism that it is a Christian sect and the restored church of Apostolic Authority.


24 posted on 05/19/2007 5:34:23 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
These Apologists pulled me into exchanges over the person of Christ and the false claim by Mormonism that it is a Christian sect and the restored church of Apostolic Authority.

When in doubt ...

Scripture Catholic .

25 posted on 05/19/2007 5:41:04 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Islam is a syncretist cult. It took bits from Judaism, bits from (mostly Docetist and Arian-tinged) Christianity, and bits from paganism. That was one of the secrets of its success, since Mohammed imposed it by the sword but also realized that it would go down a little better if it had recognizable features. Like the Mormons, he would have occasional readjustment visions when necessary.


26 posted on 05/19/2007 5:42:36 PM PDT by livius
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To: MHGinTN

Why am I getting pulled into this?

Don’t you know that Fred Thompson’s church, the Campbellites, disagree with this creed and believes too that all Christians were apostate until his church was founded.


27 posted on 05/19/2007 5:43:03 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: livius

a typical strategy. even wiccans claim to be all about truth, justice, and doing good.


28 posted on 05/19/2007 5:43:57 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Thank you St. Jude.)
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To: All

How silly! Fred Thompson’s church (Stone-Campbell) believes in restoration theology too. I guess that strikes him out of contention too.


29 posted on 05/19/2007 5:50:36 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: StAthanasiustheGreat

“Great Post, gotta love Church history. Wrote my History Thesis on the role of the Roman Catholic Priest in Elizabethan England. I considered posting a chapter or two of it here, but decided against it, too boring, lol.”

Too Boring?!

What about this?:
God’s Secret Agents : Queen Elizabeth’s Forbidden Priests and the Hatching of the Gunpowder Plot
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EMSZ7O/002-9867275-3858467

or this?:
The Stripping of the Altars: Traditional Religion in England, 1400-1580
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0300108281/002-9867275-3858467


30 posted on 05/19/2007 6:07:43 PM PDT by Ozone34
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To: Ozone34; StAthanasiustheGreat
As God views our earth from His perspective at prior to the big bang, we are but in a day of existence, though in a 13 or 14 billionth year from our perspective. The astonishing things that happened in Elizabethan England are but a fleeting moment to His perspective, but from mine they are worthy to be studied since the human mind can catch glimpses of trends and workings of His Spirit through people and events.

We may, from our backward perspective, view the events and peoples in History as significant but past actors, while it may indeed be possible to see His Hand in action on such a broad canvas when we study the events and the peoples of those past ages. Thank you for the link to the books ... I'm ordering them tonight! I would have no clue they existed except a fellow freeper shares the data.

31 posted on 05/19/2007 7:08:05 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Well, this may be close to what you were asking for: O’Gorman’s 1895 A History of the Roman Catholic Church in the United States is online through google.com books:

http://books.google.com/books?id=jI_r2Ytc2D4C&dq=gorman+catholic+history+america&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=bYtUZletK2&sig=lOvHrj0rYH5iCGLagPVvwcxu7cM#PPP7,M1

O’Gorman starts with the age of exploration and the book has over 500 pages. It seems worthwhile.


32 posted on 05/19/2007 7:15:43 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998

very kind of you to dig that up. It looks quite interesting. i’ve downloaded it.


33 posted on 05/19/2007 7:26:54 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Thank you St. Jude.)
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To: vladimir998

Thank you; also donwloaded.


34 posted on 05/19/2007 7:41:00 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: vladimir998

Why have sections been redacted ... blacked out?


35 posted on 05/19/2007 7:44:15 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: bremenboy; NYer

***could it be the in his heart he knows the diffrance?
could it be the in his heart he knows the difference?***

Popcorn time! The Pelagians are making a showing!


36 posted on 05/19/2007 7:44:24 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (When someone burns a cross on your lawn the best firehose is an AK-47.)
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To: Ozone34

Too Boring for some people. I loved writing it, my future wife, found it very boring, lol.


37 posted on 05/19/2007 7:47:59 PM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: StAthanasiustheGreat

BTW, if there is even a remote chance that a manuscript will be used differently from a Thesis format, use the approved method that allows for posting numbers in text and reference at chapter ends or manuscript end. I used this method with the little stem cell/cloning/abortion book available free on the net. A downloader can download the references or not, depending on how they intend to use it.


38 posted on 05/19/2007 7:51:10 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: bremenboy

As a Catholic, I have always counted the Council of Jerusalem as the first council. Unfortunately, many Protestants have disagreed with me.


39 posted on 05/19/2007 8:40:50 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: nowandlater

HUH!


40 posted on 05/19/2007 8:43:28 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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