Protestants and the rosary

Paternosters Blogspot ^ | February 26, 2007 | Chris Laning

[Suzy Quzy]

Geesh, Enosh...are you DEAF??? You don't HAVE to pray to Mary but it sure does help!! She reigns in heaven with her Son!!!....She is the MOTHER of JESUS CHRIST....SAVIOR OF THE WORLD!!! Do you not think Jesus LISTENS to her supplications from us?? Man.....you have been indoctrinated against the most Holy woman....the MOTHER OF JESUS! What human has been more important?? Why do Protestants diss her so much?? I will never understand it. It makes NO sense.

Mary has NO power herself....she was ASSUMED into heaven, body and soul......Jesus ASCENDED into heaven......Own power.

[AnAmericanMother]

Absolutely -- just don't thump too hard 'cause they WILL break.

I had to buy a little set of Leatherman miniature pliers just to repair my rosary when I break it. I am hard on my stuff.

[AnAmericanMother]

My daughter told me something cute the other night.

She says the Rosary last thing at night before going to sleep. She said, "If you fall asleep while you're saying the Rosary, your Guardian Angel will finish it for you."

. . . and that's a good thing, because I often do fall asleep while saying my Rosary - if I wake up in the middle of the night and can't sleep, I always say it rather than lie awake and stare at the ceiling . . .

[Suzy Quzy]

I apologize....I have seen so many Catholic bashing threads lately that it’s getting very disturbing.

[AnAmericanMother]

I did read the article, and that's not what the author is saying at all. In fact, she says, "I think people brought up Catholic often demonstrate how little they understand about their 'separated brethren' when they blithely suggest that Protestants can pray the rosary too."

She's explaining to Catholics why Protestants have trouble with the Rosary - not trying to make them say it!

[Enosh]

"She reigns in heaven with her Son!!!"

Is that Catholic doctrine!?

"Mary has NO power herself"

Isn't that a contradiction with the above?

(And please calm down, we're on the same side.)

[PAR35]

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Eph 2:13,18 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ... For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

[Running On Empty]

One of the most beautiful books written about the rosary is titled, Five for Sorrow, Ten for Joy” and it was written by a Protestant.

[Between the Lines]

She's explaining to Catholics why Protestants have trouble with the Rosary - not trying to make them say it!

I did not say 'make', I said convince. From the article:

As I've said, Catholics do sometimes cheerfully assert that Protestants, too, can "honor" the Virgin Mary and pray the rosary. But I've noticed that somehow, all the Catholic stories that circulate about Protestants praying the rosary tend to end with the story's Protestant becoming a Catholic. If those are the only stories you ever hear, the (inadvertent) message is "If you start praying the rosay, you'll become Catholic" -- as though the rosary were the first step down a slippery slope!

I noticed this on Rosary Workshop's "Why pray the rosary?" page and mentioned it to the website's owner, Margot Carter-Blair -- who shared my amusement, once I'd pointed it out. Margot is now looking for some good stories about Protestants praying the rosary who stay Protestant.

[Enosh]

"... Catholic bashing threads..."

No problem. I'm usually shoulder to shoulder with y'all against my proddie colleagues. Got the scars, t-shirts, the whole smack.

[Running On Empty]

See #28

[Suzy Quzy]

Thanks....come on over.....the water’s GREAT!!

[Frank Sheed]

Matthew 6: 9-ff:
9 “Pray, then, in this way:‘Our Father who is in heaven, Hallowed be Your name.
10 ‘Your kingdom come. Your will be done, On earth as it is in heaven.
11 ‘Give us this day our daily bread.
12 ‘And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13 ‘And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil. [For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.’]

Okay. You protest that you must go through Jesus. He, the Lord, the Christ, tells us to go through the Father (see above; a direct quote from HIM).

She, Mary, tells the wine stewards, “DO WHATEVER HE TELLS YOU.” He had protested to her observation that “they have no more wine” by saying “Woman, what has this to do with Me?” However, His Mother had asked Him.

So, suppose I wanted, on my OWN volition, to ask Jesus’ Mother for something? It is my decision, and He did respond to her observation, “They have no wine” by CREATING 150 gallons of choice stuff. It was so good even the wine steward was blown away!

And so a good Son answers the desire of His Mother held in her heart!

;-o)

[ears_to_hear]

Protestants generally don't see that their own argument isn't completely consistent. There may be no particular virtue in repeating the same prayer over again, but Protestants will cheerfully pray the "Our Father..." weekly and daily throughout their lives anyway. Many Protestants are taught that "true" prayer is spontaneous and from the heart, expressed in one's own words or wordless desires -- but if that were literally followed at all times, we'd all be praying like Quakers, who only pray as they feel "inspired" to do so. But in fact, most Protestant worship services do include standard, pre-written prayers in which everyone is expected to join. I was brought up, for instance, saying one that begins "Almighty and merciful Father, we have erred and strayed from thy ways like lost sheep...." every Sunday without fail.

Most Protestants do not say the "Our Father" Let alone repeat it over and over.
I have to wonder if he was ever really a protestant.

[N3WBI3]

One of the most eye opening and prayer enhancing things I ever heard was the our father laid out as a framework for prayer.

E.G.

1) Our father who art in heaven hollowed be thy name: Start your prayers by first Glorifying God
2) Thy kingdom come thy will be done ...: As Jesus did submit yourself first to gods will firstly and what follows secondly
3) Give us this day our daily bread: Here bring your request, request which are hopefully motivated by the spirit not (oh God I would like a Ferrari)
4) And Forgive us our trespasses: Confess your wrongs to the lord, seek out sin in your life
5) As we forgive those who trespass: Ask for help in forgiving offenses you may hold against others
6) the kingdom and honor and glory: Again praise God...

In terms of a frame work this in incredibly more powerful than just repeating a prayer you learned in ccd or Sunday school

[alpha-8-25-02]

“Most Protestants do not say the “Our Father” Let alone repeat it over and over.
I have to wonder if he was ever really a protestant.”

And most catholics cannot find the Lord’s prayer in the Bible.

[Running On Empty]

You think?

[tioga]

Praying the Rosary is not required of Cathoics.

[trisham]

No problem. I'm usually shoulder to shoulder with y'all against my proddie colleagues. Got the scars, t-shirts, the whole smack.

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