Our Lady of Guadalupe called 'Mother Without Borders' in Los Angeles (Catholic Caucus)

CNS ^ | Dec-5-2007 | Ellie Hidalgo

[Coleus]

talk about inculcating left-wing, marxist politics and paganism into the faithful. I wonder if the Catholic Conference works as hard to get pro-life politicians elected. I bet not.

[GOP Poet]

As a Los Angeles Catholic I ask must this Mahoney offend at every turn? I feel so very angry and sad when these sort of events and policies go against our American laws (previous stands on protecting/supporting and even hiding illegals etc) and get political. It makes it very difficult to feel connected to the larger diocese and to feel renewed at at peace with my own church. Very sad. This is no mistake and that is what makes it so very malicious. If it was an honoring without all the political connotations that would be quite another thing, but sadly it is not. This man should be given the big boot.

[GOP Poet]

EXACTLY!

[rogator]

Amen to that.
Mahony is a poor excuse for a bishop.
There is no way I would support the LA diocese in any way.

[NYer]

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[Ultra Sonic 007]

Ping.

[purpleraine]

Should have been removed when he refused to provide evidence to the DA on the abuse cases dragging out the sordid affair for years.

[Mrs. Don-o]

I don't understand why Our Lady of Guadalupe (whom I love) has to be "interpreted" in terms of corrupt liberal politics.

Home and family. The people who crossed the border via fraud, trespass, or trafficking, or remained in the USA using forged papers and stolen identities, have homes and families in Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador. We should respectfully send them back. They should respectfully go.

Care and compassion. There's no need to be callous toward a person who is sick and hungry. Give them some food and decent clothing for their bus trip south. Notify a Mexican hospital that they're on their way.

Patience and kindness. What if it's a case of somebody's immigration status being screwed up by some inadvertent paperwork mistake or U.S. bureaucratic blunder? Fine. They need some assistance. In the meantime they can stay as guests at Roger Mahony's place, 3424 Wilshire Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90010-2241.

I am not being sarcastic about this. We can have a decent and lawful society, show sincere care for human needs, fight the cruelty of crime and corruption, and even give honest people a path to U.S. citizenship --- a path that starts back in Tegucigalpa or Michoacan --- all under the patronage of Our Lady of Guadalupe.

We're not wrong for wanting to do it right.

[AliVeritas]

Ummm... I think the message was come to Tepeyac, not the reverse.

[the invisib1e hand]

I don't know if this fits here, but the anti-immigration sentiments are disturbing. I've felt that leftwing agitators targeting immigrants, and it is their escapades that make the headlines. Almost all Mexican immigrants I've met on the east coast are decent people who work hard and have a picture of Our Lady of Guadalupe somewhere conspicuous.

I believe that Our Lady of Guadalupe has very special intentions for these people, and that, as "immigration waves" go, they may be the best thing that happened to America in some time.

The Blessed Mother is after all Patroness of the Americas. And I am very grateful for that. I trust her protection.

[Tax-chick]

We can have a decent and lawful society, show sincere care for human needs, fight the cruelty of crime and corruption, and even give honest people a path to U.S. citizenship --- a path that starts back in Tegucigalpa or Michoacan --- all under the patronage of Our Lady of Guadalupe.

I agree, 100%. I *cannot* understand why the Catholic heirarchy supports the exploitation of illegal immigrant labor by American employers. (The same economic illiterates support driving up the cost of American labor through minimum wage increases, benefit mandates, etc., etc. ... I'd like to beat them over the head with "Basic Economics" until they see some sense ... but I digress.)

Don't they see that this is, effectively, enslaving the migrant for the benefit of the citizen, which the Bible explicitly condemns?

[Mrs. Don-o]

I am personally very toward Central American immigration. Nations that will not welcome babies are generally obliged to welcome immigrants. Considering that we aborted 40 million American babies in the last 34 years, if they are replaced 1-for-1 with Spanish-speaking Christians from the hemispheric South, we will be very fortunte indeed, and getting far more than we deserve.

That would be lawful immigration I'm speaking of. I have very rarely heard conservatives speak out against orderly, decent, respectful, lawful immigrants. My parish has a lot of them. As for the lawbreakers, they might also someday be on the path to U.S. citizenship. That path starts in their home countries. Let them go home with our blessing and God's, and do it right next time.

[Mrs. Don-o]

That's "very favorable toward." Yeesh9, I hate tyops...

[the invisib1e hand]

Yeesh9

I could see Yeesh6 or 7, but you went all the way to 9. You might need to lay off the caffeine.

[livius]

I agree. We have aborted so many of our own that unless Our Lady sends us new Christian people, we will be overrun by Muslims just as in Europe. And then we will disappear.

I have been very distressed by some of the hostility towards Latin Americans here, and even more distressed because a lot of it is really nothing but Protestants (probably mostly elderly) expressing their hatred of Catholics. I think many of these people would actually be happy to see more Muslims come into the US - anything but Latin American Catholics.

[Pyro7480]

Do you really mean that? Also, a reminder that once you mention Protestants, you jeopardize the Caucus designation.

[the invisib1e hand]

Our Lady won’t let us down.

[Salvation]

 

DEVOTIONAL PRAYER TO OUR LADY OF GUADALUPE

O Virgin Mother of Guadalupe, you wanted to show your compassion to all who solicit your help. Hear the petitions we present to you.

Patroness of the Philippines, we pray for peace, justice and prosperity for our country and for all the countries of the world. Mother of fair love, protect our families. Keep them united in love and watch over our children. Put an end to the sacrifice of innocent lives as you did in Mexico.

Mother of the Church, grant us abundant vocations of priests, religious and laity. We pray to you especially for our Holy Father, Pope John Paul II, and all bishops. Grant us a great love for all the sacraments, the signs of God's great mercy.

Thus we will be able to bring all, true peace through Our Lord Jesus Christ, who with God the Father and the Holy Spirit, lives and reign forever and ever.

                                                            Amen.

[Salvation]

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[Aggie Mama]

This article is indicative of exactly why I don’t have a devotion to Our Lady of Guadalupe. I really abhor the notion that every illegal that has an Our Lady of Guadalupe sticker on the back of their truck is a great person. Perhaps that’s the cynicism of living in Houston speaking, but it’s the reality here in town.

It’s a fashion statement on the young women here and a car adornment for the men. I don’t see it as a devotion in many of the Hispanics here in town, so much as a “La Raza” statement.