FIRST THINGS: Obama and the Bishops

First Things ^ | November 11, 2008 | Magdalen

[topcat54]

Church isn't a corporation, Pope isn't a CEO.

Yes, I realize RC bishops are more like semi-autonomous vassals with life tenure.

But yet a bishop can fire a priest.

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

Maybe they could all get together and create a Catholic college or university which actually teaches Catholicism
since there isn’t one where they are now? Just an idea. Not sure what they think will happen without Catholics educated in the faith. Just more Obamas?

[marshmallow]

I think the bishops realize that a public prohibition from receiving communion of a CINO politician would effectively launch them onto a whole new path away from their comfort zone. Moreover, it would be a path which might lead through some very rough countryside. In short, there would be a heck of a hullabaloo. They're not ready for that yet.

Faithful Catholics would be greatly heartened and encouraged, of course but here in the USA, where anti-Catholic sentiment lurks just below the surface, accusations of Church interference in secular government would begin to fly thick and fast. Battle lines would be drawn. Questions would be asked about tax exemptions. Money might become scarcer. *Shudder*.......let's try gentle persuasion first.......

We've made a good start. Episcopal spine has been more in evidence than for quite some time (due in good part to the housecleaning of homosexuals from ministry and seminaries, IMHO) but we're going to have to wait a while for someone to press the "nuke" button.

[AnAmericanMother]

And if the bishop is one of the vertebrate variety, he will.

We're just still suffering from Abp. Jadot fallout.

[Paved Paradise]

One can hope. As Pastor Tony Evans has said (my favorite quote): “Where does the Devil sit?”
“In the first pew”

Anyone who does not think Satan is an expert on scripture is seriously deluded.

[ThomasMore]

I am the deacon at my parish in Rhode Island. Both my pastor and I preached this message for weeks before the election and it was well received...but not by all. And lets face it. There are RINOs and there are CINOs...catholic in name only. In our state, Obamanation got 75% of the vote which tells me in a state made up of 65% Catholic more than half those Catholics voted for Zero. Not much that preaching can do to change the hearts and minds of those who no longer attend church and have dumped their faith for a new religion called Hedonism.

We all have a huge uphill battle and challenge...to bring the grace of conversion to the pagans...

[wombtotomb]

EXCELLENT MOTTO- I AM ADOPTING AS MY OWN, WITH YOUR PERMISSION. caps intentional- heart actually skipped a beat when I read someone write what I felt..........

[VermiciousKnid]

I understand Christendom College is a good, solid Catholic school.

It’s a shame I can’t think of more. I should be able to rattle ‘em off like crazy.

Regards,

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

Maybe they could meet in Front Royal next time.
Just seems kind of farcical that they do nothing about liberal modernism, dissent, and apostasy at the colleges and universities and complain at these meetings about Catholics not following the faith. Most have never been taught it at an adult level.

[Desdemona]

Episcopal spine has been more in evidence than for quite some time (due in good part to the housecleaning of homosexuals from ministry and seminaries, IMHO)

More like a house cleaning among their own ranks. Most of it was through attrition, but they're still gone.

[Salvation]

The Bishops are standing up for life after the election. And yes, they are on Kmiec's tail, too.

Pray for LIFE!

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[boycott_msm]

I agree about writing to my rep and will do just that! He is a “Catholic” who conveniently hides behnd the argument that he is upholding the laws of the land. I wish our church would excommunicate these politicians.

[HighlyOpinionated]

Surely, you have my permission, I stole it from another FReeper, I do believe.

Appropriated not stolen. LOL

Now I’ve appropriated another phrase from a FReeper.