Posted on 03/25/2009 1:14:14 AM PDT by OPREV
Nineteen hundred and seventy five years ago, This is the discussion that went on between Jesus and his disciples -
Mat 24:3 As Jesus sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him in private. "Tell us when all this will be," they asked, "and what will happen to show that it is the time for your coming and the end of the age."
Mat 24:4 Jesus answered, ....
Mat 24:30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky; and all the peoples of the land will weep as they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 The great trumpet will sound, and he will send out his angels to the four corners of the earth, and they will gather his chosen people from one end of the world to the other.
And the most important part ----
Mat 24:34 Remember that all these things will happen before the people now living have all died.
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Jesus told the disciples he would come back and take them to heaven in their lifetime. If he didn't come back, then, he lied.
Another translation of verse 34
Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till ALL these things be accomplished.
Jesus told the disciples that their generation would not pass away, until he came back and took them to heaven.
Jesus came back, in the 1st century, like he said he would, and, his angels gathered the elect and they went back to heaven. Which means, we live in the millenium.
Rev 20:4 ...and I saw the souls of them that had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, ... and they lived, and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
The Greek word used for the "thousand years" is chilioi. Chilioi is a plural word, meaning, 2000, or more. Thus, the millenium would be 2000 or more years.
And we would be at this point in history -
Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are finished, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 and shall come forth to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to the war: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
Rev 20:9 And they went up over the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down out of heaven, and devoured them.
And the next thing we would see is, the Bride coming out of Heaven
Rev 21:9 And there came one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls, who were laden with the seven last plagues; and he spake with me, saying, Come hither, I will show thee the bride, the wife of the Lamb.
Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the holy city Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God,
Jesus came back & the early church left, with him. The rapture is past, the beast & false prophet also, the two witnesses are long gone, as are the 144,000. We live at the very end of history, when Satan is let loose, the armies from the North attack God's people, fire from the sky comes down and kills them, and there is a new heaven and new earth. And the final act is the Bride coming out of heaven. And then it's over. :)
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Thank you for the caution and the wise words I will take them to heart. Shalom
1. I spoke of hell’s intent regarding the perspective, the ideas in the OP. I didn’t speak of the Original PostER. I don’t know the original poster. . . . besides it being against the rules.
2. You are welcome to make of my posting style etc. whatever you will.
3. The lack of a clue about me is persistently comforting in such cases.
4. My writing AND my style continue to result in plenty of confirmation.
5. Many, if not most, naysayers hereon will likely find that incomprehensible this side of eternity.
BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.
I may try and get back to it and ponder each point more thoughtfully. I just found myself a bit shocked that you of all people said some of those things! LOL.
Ahhhhh
Thanks for the
REPLACEMENTARIAN, AMIL, POST-MIL et al
POSTER BOY PHOTO.
IMPRESSIVE!
There is more pointing to a first century return than not.
UNMITIGATED HOGWASH.
I still find it shocking that anyone calling themselves a Christian could say such a thing with straight fingers.
Ahhhhhhhhh . . . and what training has there been in the diagnosis of psychosis?
MORE UNMITIGATED HOGWASH.
How can anyone read Revelation and even stretch their
ALICE-IN-WONDERLAND-SCHOOL-OF-THEOLOGY-RUBBER-BIBLES
around even 1/50th the contrary Biblical facts in Revelation alone—not to mention Daniel, Isaiah, Ezekiel, the shorter prophets etc.
Incredible.
I never realized that Biblical ignorance; Biblical denial; Biblical blindness was so pervasive—particularly amongst conservative “Christians.”
I gather
REPLACEMENTARIANS, AMILS, POST-MILS
have this chronic, genetic, compulsive blindness to the fact that God Almighty seems to have a LOT of fun with time elements in Scripture.
Didn’t Noah preach about an imminent flood—for at least a hundred years or so?
And didn’t God more or less have everyone from Adam on looking at THEIR sons to see if perchance one of them was THE MESSIAH?
Oh, right, Don’t confuse the terminally confused further with Biblical facts.
I understand.
INDEED.
WELL PUT BIBLICAL TRUTHS.
Of course, naysayers don’t seem to be much acquainted with the Bible and certainly not with Biblical Truth.
From who’s perspective?
I doubt the Pharisees thought Jesus’ rebukes of them were very “LOVING.”
Yet, they were precisely the most loving thing GOD HIMSELF could deliver to them.
However,
even God, by HIS NATURE . . . is prevented from engaging in nonsense.
YOU HAVE THIS HABIT OF BEING ABSOLUTELY CORRECT ABOUT SUCH MATTERS.
THANKS.
THANKS THANKS.
BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.
INDEED.
INDEED.
AND THAT’S JUST ONE GLARING BIBLICAL TRUTH TOPPLING THEIR WHOLE SKYSCRAPER OF STINKING CARDS PERSPECTIVE.
THERE ARE MANY DOZENS OF OTHERS—ANY ONE OF WHICH SHREDS THEIR WHOLE PERSPECTIVE FROM THE FOUNDATION UP.
Yeah, would have been mentioned! Along with all the other fulfillments of Biblical prophecy—many many dozens of which have NOT YET been fulfilled as a matter of the historical AND BIBLICAL record.
My favorite trick question is how many generations are the in Christ when they bring the generation question.
>> 1. I spoke of hell’s intent regarding the perspective, the ideas in the OP. I didn’t speak of the Original PostER. I don’t know the original poster. . . . besides it being against the rules. <<
I don’t know what to make of this. I pointed out to you that the post was a vanity, something you could easily confirm. Yet you separate the original poster from the original post as if they are unrelated.
>> 2. You are welcome to make of my posting style etc. whatever you will. 3. The lack of a clue about me is persistently comforting in such cases. <<
I’m obliged not only by FR rules, but by my own conscience to be charitable in my inferences about you. That’s not to say that you cause people to form impressions.
>> 4. My writing AND my style continue to result in plenty of confirmation. 5. Many, if not most, naysayers hereon will likely find that incomprehensible this side of eternity. <<
Incomprehensible? You write that as if you expect you’ve handed some great wisdom down to fools who can’t begin to fathom it. In fact, the “confirmations” remind me of nothing so much as dufflepuds from C.S. Lewis’ “Voyage of the Dawn-Treader.”
I don’t understand this assertion:
No Quix it is only one of them that they have not addressed. And yes there are many that they can not address and have not addressed.
Interesting question. Your answer?
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