Posted on 04/10/2009 10:32:45 AM PDT by DouglasKC
It sure helped me when I found it.
Thanks for posting it.
Oh man, not this again! Every year the same thing and the same thing debunked. Reminds me of what Bishop Horne said 180 years ago....
“Pertness and ignorance may ask a question in three lines, which it will cost learning and ingenuity thirty pages to answer, and when this is done, the same question shall be triumphantly asked again next year, as if nothing had ever been written on the subject”.
-—Bishop Horne 1831
Well in all fairness the article was posted two years ago.
But of course I disagree that following scripture is bunk that needs to be debunked.
search for my thtread titled: WHAT DAY WAS JESUS CRUCIFIED
What’s the problem with the explanation of the two Sabbath’s?
If it’s bunk, explain why you think so instead of just throwing accusations out there.
What’s the problem with the explanation of the two Sabbath’s?
If it’s bunk, explain why you think so instead of just throwing accusations out there.
Nobody is going to believe you just on your say so. You need to present your case.
Thanks.
I will read it through and can ping some others tomorrow morning. It’s well past my bedtime.
What kind of Christian rituals DO you observe that are NOT pagan?
It's sure worked for The MORMONs:
"Mother; I've learned that PRESBYTERIANism is UNTRUE."
The “church” is the collection of believers, not some organized institutional hierarchy. When “rituals” replace a personal relationship legalism replaces grace.
What exactly are these 'instructions'?
I've always wondered how the oldest religious tradition/meal/ritual/activity/whatever-you-want-to-call-PASSOVER got morphed into the thing that Christianity calls 'communion' and that is practiced in SO many different forms and frequencies.
From Genesis through Malachi, nothing is said to be done in remembrance of Christ, but in the Gospels and in the Epistles, a feast is instituted to be done in Christ's remembrance and that is the Lord's Supper.
Apart from this supper, nothing else is said in the Bible to be done in Christ's remembrance. Neither Christmas nor Easter is mentioned anywhere in the Bible as a memorial of our Lord. Any one or group of people who do this is/are pleasing men and not Jesus Christ. In fact, there are portions of scripture that condemn the practices of Easter and Christmas.
Matthew 26.26-28; Mark 14.22-25; Luke 22.14-19 “And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, 'Take, eat; this is My body.' And He took the cup, and gave thanks and gave it to them, saying, 'Drink ye all of it; for this is My blood of the New Testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.”
And just WHAT were they eating?
Are you looking for legalism there Elsie? The point is that the Lord’s Supper was instituted during a meal that the Apostles were having. It happened to be the Passover meal but no indication is given that it has to be at Passover. In Corinthians Paul indicates that the Lord’s Supper was eaten during a meal but that they were separating themselves in cliques or according to divides of rich and poor etc. He indicates that in a gathering of Christians there should be no separation of classes. All are to come together.
All references of partaking of the Lord’s Supper in scripture are during a common meal. The person condemned is not the person who does not discern that the elements he takes in his hands are the Lord's body. The person condemned is the person who does not discern that Christians are the Lord's body, and must be in unity before they dare approach the sacrament.
Yeah, that's the story, but I cannot find ANYTHING 'instituted' during that PASSOVER meal.
If you can see it; PLEASE! point it out to me.
If you can see it; PLEASE! point it out to me.<<
I Cor. 11:24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. 25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. 26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
“ and he hasn’t come back to earth yet. Then we have the Apostles indication that they and the rest of the believers who make up the church continued the practice.
Everything bolded was in the PASSOVER meal: ONCE a year.
The ONLY thing Christ was doing, was EXPLAINING just what the ELEMENTS of the meal represented.
There was NO meal involved went John the Baptist announced:
"BEHOLD! The LAMB of GOD..." yet he, too, was refering to the PASSOVER 'lamb'.
The problem with you analogy is that the New Testament churches were observing the Lord’s Supper long after Christ ascended into heaven. There are also accounts that it was observed on a weekly basis. Given that information we can conclude that the Apostles understood that it was not just a Passover meal.
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