Posted on 08/02/2009 7:09:23 PM PDT by TaraP
Matthew 24:36a (NIV) "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
We cannot know the day or the hour for the Second Coming of Jesus following the Seven Year Tribulation Period, because Jesus stated that those days would be "cut short". The Word of God does not state that the Seven Year Tribulation will start late. The Seven Year Tribulation will begin precisely on time, but it will be "cut short".
Matthew 24:21-22 (NIV) For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now--and never to be equaled again. If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.
The Great Tribulation is "cut short", because if the Great Tribulation were not "cut short", then "no one would survive". The Great Tribulation is "cut short" because if the Great Tribulation were not "cut short", the Antichrist would destroy every single person on earth including himself.
The reason that no one except God the Father knows the day or the hour for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, is that the Second Coming of Jesus Christ is determined by that precise point in time when if Jesus did not return, man would destroy all of mankind. The time for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ has not been set by God, that time is determined by man with man's freewill.
No one can predict exactly to the day and the hour when man with man's freewill is going to bring mankind to the precise moment of self-destruction. Only God the Father knows because He is Omniscient (He knows all).
We can however, know very closely when Jesus will return so that the exact day is not a surprise.
1 Thessalonians 5:4 (NIV) But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief.
THE BEGINNING OF THE TRIBULATION PERIOD WILL PRECEDE THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST BY SEVEN YEARS!
We must subtract seven years from the ONE YEAR WINDOW of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ in order to calculate the ONE YEAR WINDOW for the beginning of the Tribulation period.
That would put the ONE YEAR WINDOW for the beginning of the Seven Year Tribulation Period from September 29, 2008 (Rosh Hashanah) until September 18, 2009 (Rosh Hashanah).
On September 29, 2008 (Rosh Hashanah), the FIRST DAY of the ONE YEAR WINDOW for the beginning of the Seven Year Tribulation Period, the stock market fell 777 points, clearly indicating a message from God to the Bride of Christ. I believe that God's message on September 29, 2008 was that the time until the beginning of the Tribulation is close, make certain that you are prepared. (In the Egyptian Tribulation, God attacked the Egyptian's gods. On September 29, 2008 in attacking the stock market, God attacked America's god of money.)
The seven year Tribulation Period began around June 28, 2009 because that was forty-two years from the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem.
THE SEVEN YEAR TRIBULATION PERIOD BEGAN ON THURSDAY, 9 JULY, 2009 - THE 17th OF TAMMUZ!
THE 17th OF TAMMUZ IS A HISTORIC DAY OF CALAMITY FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE!
1. It was on the 17th of Tammuz that Moses descended from Mount Sinai with the Ten Commandments and when he saw the Jewish people worshipping a golden calf, he broke the Ten Commandments.
2. It was on the 17th of Tammuz in 585 B. C. that the priests from the first Temple stopped offering daily sacrifice because there was a shortage of sheep.
3. It was on the 17th of Tammuz in 586 B. C. that Nebuchadnezzar broke through the walls of Jerusalem to conquer the city.
4. It was on the 17th of Tammuz in 70 A. D. that the Roman army under Titus breeched the walls of Jerusalem.
5. It was on the 17th of Tammuz in 1239 A. D. that Pope Gregory IX ordered the confiscation of all of the manuscripts of the Talmud.
6. It was on the 17th of Tammuz in 1391 A. D. that 4,000 Jewish people were killed in Toledo and Jaen, Spain.
7. It was on the 17th of Tammuz in 1559 that the Jewish Quarter of Prague was destroyed.
8. It was on the 17th of Tammuz in 1944 that the Jewish people in the Kovno ghetto were sent to the death camps.
9. It was on the 17th of Tammuz in 1970 that Libya ordered the confiscation of all Jewish property.
The Seven Year Tribulation Period began with a "peace agreement" on July 9, 2009, which was the 17th of Tammuz on the Jewish calendar. The "peace agreement" will allow the Jewish people to rebuild their Temple in Jerusalem, in order for the Jewish people to re-establish the ritual of daily sacrifice in their attempt to atone for the Jewish people's sin. Information concerning the existence of that "peace agreement" has not been made available to the general public, as it is necessary for the Islamic governments to prepare the Islamic public for the fact that the Islamic people are going to share the Temple Mount in Jerusalem with the Jewish people; and the government of Israel must prepare the Jewish people to accept the concessions that the Israeli government made in order to facilitate the "peace agreement". There is also a delay while various politicians posture themselves prior to the public announcement of the "peace agreement" in order for the various politicians to claim a percentage of the credit for the "peace agreement". One of the politicians who is posturing himself in order to claim credit for the "peace agreement" is Barack Hussein Obama. We are in a very short time period before information concerning the "peace agreement" must be made available to the general public, as the Jewish Temple will be rebuilt and completed, and daily sacrifice will begin following sundown on March 15, 2010. The Jewish day begins at sundown, consequently sundown on March 15, 2010 is the beginning of the Jewish day of March 16, 2010. March 16, 2010 is the 1st of Nisan, the first day of the new Jewish sacred calendar year of 5770. The Jewish people will re-establish daily sacrifice in the new Jewish Temple on the first day of their new sacred year of 5770. March 16, 2010, the 1st of Nisan is also exactly 250 days after July 9, 2009, which was the 17th of Tammuz, the day on which the "peace agreement" was agreed to. The 17th of Tammuz has been a historic day of calamity for the Jewish people. July 9, 2009 was still another day of great calamity for the Jewish people, but the Jewish people will not recognize it as a day of great calamity until 1,260 days later on December 21, 2012.
The second order to rebuild Jerusalem occurred on June 28, 1967. The Jewish people declared themselves to be the State of Israel on May 14, 1948. However, Jerusalem was not completely in Israeli control until 1967. During the "Six Day War" of 1967, Israel captured the Old City of Jerusalem which included the Temple Mount. On June 7, 1967 Jerusalem came back under Jewish control for the first time in almost 1900 years. On June 28, 1967 the Knesset passed a "decree" annexing East Jerusalem, and thereby bringing the entire city of Jerusalem back into Jewish control.
On September 17, 1978, Menachem Begin, Prime Minister of Israel put forth in a letter to United States President Jimmy Carter, the date of 28 June 1967 as the date that the Israeli Knesset passed legislation that empowered the Knesset to control Jerusalem.
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The President Camp David Thurmont, Maryland 17 September 1978
Dear Mr. President:
I have the honor to inform you, Mr. President, that on 28 June 1967 - Israel's parliament (The Knesset) promulgated and adopted a law to the effect: "the Government is empowered by a decree to apply the law, the jurisdiction and administration of the State to any part of Eretz Israel (Land of Israel - Palestine), as stated in that decree."
On the basis of this law, the government of Israel decreed in July 1967 that Jerusalem is one city indivisible, the capital of the State of Israel.
Sincerely, Menachem Begin
“Therefore you [Jesus’ disciples] also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you [Jesus’ disciples] do not expect.” (Matt. 24:44)
The author is plainly clueless and disregards the text in favor of his theology.
If, as Jesus said, He would come at a time when His disciples would LEAST EXPECT, how can any rational person say that folks can recognize His approach? Why do folks try to make themselves out to be more cleaver than Jesus?
And you’re gonna claim that today is Tuesday too, I suppose.
Oh hear you are...Yes I know this would be your response...:)
Do you know why we bother?
Bad eschatology has consequences that can go far beyond some amusing quirkyness about end times scheduling.
Last month we had the story about converts to Judaism who still think they believe in Jesus, in some sense. My guess is, a judeolotry typical of pop dispensationalism as led these people to take an action that calls their true salvation into question.
And just so you don't think I only pick on the dispensational target rich environment, Harold Camping's error (and I think he was some kind of Reformed amil guy before he went off the deep end) leads people away from the church, which is where God wants them fed. This is not safe for a Christian.
What I'll tolerate is actually pretty broad. See here for my usual rant.
If so, please consider:
1. Jesus could have used words other than day and hour, but He did not. He had "week" and "month" available, for example, but He restricted Himself to day and hour. Are we not free then to recognize the decade, year, month, and even week, if the Lord through His Spirit gives us the sensitivity and understanding to do so?
2. Does not the same Scr ipture which reports Jesus' unknowability of the day and hour also specifically permit and encourage us to recognize their increasing proximity? For in Hebrews 10 it says:
23 "Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful. 24 And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds. 25 Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching."
Jesus told His disciples, “Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.” (Matt. 24:44)
When you least expect it! Pretty clear, no? He is not fudging words like “exact hour” of His coming, as if we can know that it will be the month of July but not July 22 at 12:30 pm.
Can you explain what Matt. 24:44 means plainly and clearly without any “I can speculate on the timing” mumbo jumbo?
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This could be a reference to the death of a believer or to the approaching judgment against Jerusalem when the temple would be destroyed. I think this is most likely, since the context is about the insufficiency of the old covenant sacrificial system against the Blood of the Lamb shed on our behalf. The old system was just a pointer to the new.
John Gill says this:
and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching; either of death, or the last judgment, or rather of Jerusalem's destruction; which at the writing of this epistle was near at hand; and was an affair that greatly concerned these Hebrews; and by various symptoms might be observed by them, as approaching; and which was no inconsiderable argument to engage them to a diligent discharge of their duty; unless the day of darkness, infidelity, and blasphemy in the last days of the world, should be intended, after which will succeed the latter day glory.The first half of Matthew 24 is also about the destruction of the temple in AD70 when Jesus gave definite signs of the event, including the “abomination of desolations” (aka Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, cf. Luke 21:22).
Many folks confuse that event, which had definite signs attached, with the Second Coming, which will be sudden and without warning, as a thief in the night.
Wednesday, August 05, 2009 4:04:53 PM · 148 of 148
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Cool! Now I can get started on the bucket list.
I don't suppose you know a good IBM XT technician.
Plus the caps lock in the title is very convincing.
Kinda like the MegaMillions numbers myself.
Plus the caps lock in the title is very convincing.
SShhhhhhh! You'll wake the caps lock monster.
XT? Ohhh nooo!!
I think it’s faith and Biblical Scripture Interpetations and all religions have those 2 things....
I think it’s faith and Biblical Scripture Interpetations and all religions have those 2 things....
Oh-kayyyyy.
You're not trying to pull that lame old "all religions are equal" stuff? Are you trying to say it doesn't matter?
I gave you examples of two eschatologically related errors where it very much does matter, in things pertaining to salvation.
Ditch the numerology. Back to the basics.
"What's it say when your admin and technical contacts have a webtv email address?"
Or, in this case, an aol.com address.
This is one of the dumbest statements I've ever heard.
No I don’t believe all *religions* are the same..HOWEVER I do think the return of Jesus Christ is based on Judaic eschatology....
What do you mean by “judaic eschatology” and why do you believe this?
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