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Can It Be? (Testimony of a former Jehovah's Witness)
CE ^ | April 3, 2010 | Mary Kochan

Posted on 04/03/2010 3:12:52 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 04/03/2010 3:12:52 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; markomalley; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 04/03/2010 3:18:40 PM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: NYer

Jesus IS Lord

It’s on my front door

They don’t even bother to knock.


3 posted on 04/03/2010 3:21:51 PM PDT by John 3_19-21 (Where are the leaders?)
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To: John 3_19-21

We have a pastor here who calls them the “Jehovah’s False Witnesses.”


4 posted on 04/03/2010 3:26:14 PM PDT by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief (Our Joe Wilson can take the Dems' Joe Wilson any day of the week)
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To: NYer

Careful now, if you let the old JWs learn you’ve returned to “Apostate Christianity”, you’re bound to get some skeletons from your closet unleashed.


5 posted on 04/03/2010 3:26:28 PM PDT by TypeZoNegative (Pro life & Vegan because I respect all life, Republican because our enemies don't respect ours.)
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To: NYer

Good post, saved for further reading. My daughter is a member of that cult and I pray that God removes the scales from her eyes to see His true glory. I went with her to their “Memorial” service a couple years ago and found it very strange that when they passed the bread and wine I wasn’t supposed to touch it - only select members could partake in the meal. And it did seem very dark in there - no windows.


6 posted on 04/03/2010 3:28:59 PM PDT by creeping death
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To: nobody

JW’s sell ‘Jesus on a stick’ not a cross!


7 posted on 04/03/2010 3:31:12 PM PDT by Sporaticus
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To: Galactic Overlord-In-Chief

They initially believed they were the true
“remnant” The 144,000 spoke about in Revelation.

With 6 or 7 million JW’s around the world this could pose at the very least a statistical problem.


8 posted on 04/03/2010 3:31:22 PM PDT by John 3_19-21 (Where are the leaders?)
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To: NYer

save for later


9 posted on 04/03/2010 4:01:00 PM PDT by vanilla swirl (To argue witha person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead)
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To: NYer

Thank you for this. I teach at a Christian homeschool ministry and two of our children are JW. We had an Easter Celebration - not a party, but truly a celebration of Christ and these children had to sit by themselves and not participate. This helped explain to me where they are coming from and why they look like deer caught in headlights when we have devotion time.

We must be doing/saying something right because we have not scared them away yet and they keep coming back week after week. I hope Jesus has captured their hearts. Thanks again - I now know where to focus my prayer!


10 posted on 04/03/2010 4:03:03 PM PDT by HomeschoolMomma (Packing for re-education camp as we speak!)
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To: NYer

http://www.catholicxjw.com/ A great site for Catholics dealing with JWs.


11 posted on 04/03/2010 4:07:44 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: NYer

If it’s not the same Jesus as the bible, its not Jesus.


12 posted on 04/03/2010 4:21:52 PM PDT by applpie (u)
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To: NYer

Very good info, thanks!


13 posted on 04/03/2010 4:25:50 PM PDT by Average Al
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To: NYer

For me, seeing how the issue of Easter was the result of a government edict (upon pain of death) in 325 AD, I preferred to return to the faith practiced by the Apostles. I cannot find the word “Easter” in the NT and it is not in the Greek. The only word is the one translated “passover” every place else. That is what I practice and I am not alone. In fact, aside from the JW’s position on Easter, there are a number of Churches of God that observe the Passover instead of Easter.

This is not only time that a church has been co-opted by government. In recent history, the LDS church changed their position on plural marriage right after the US government held Utah statehood hostage. I suspect that the Roman Catholic Church may have a “revelation” about married priests if the sexual abuse scandal gets much worse and governments hint of severe criminal sanctions. I also suspect that some Protestant churches may have revelations to permit gay “marriage” about the time that governments start to enforce equal rights laws.

In the case of Easter, Emperor Constantine presided over the Council of Nicea in 325 AD and decided the issue in favor of observing Easter and condemned anyone observing the Passover on the 14th of Nisan to be an apostate worthy of death.

While others may bend their knee to church doctrines decided by worldly governments, even if they are rubber-stamped by church delegates, I will politely reserve the right to come to my own conclusion.

There are various ways of sugar-coating this, but the history on this point is far more settled than is AlGore’s GlobalLukeWarming.


14 posted on 04/03/2010 4:29:34 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: NYer

PRAISE GOD. JESUS IS VICTOR.

Dr Walter Martin documented his research that convinced him that the JW founders

DELIBERATELY CONCOCTED A SHAM OF A RELIGION

TOTALLY AS A MONEY MAKING POWER !!!!CONTROL!!!! SCHEME over other people’s lives.

Totally and only . . . that it was a sham from the foundation up.

Lower down the ranks, they had no idea that was what it was created to be. But the top ranks knew—because they’d done it.


15 posted on 04/03/2010 4:34:41 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: NYer

My Dad is caught in that cult so I’ll bump the thread thanks for the nice read


16 posted on 04/03/2010 4:37:04 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?)
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To: Sporaticus

By your comment you must not have respect for God, or His
Son, or the Scriptures. I am not a JW, but I do study the
Scriptures. You might learn something if you did, too.
In the Greek New Testament two words are used for “the
cross” on which the Lord was put to death.
The word ‘stauros’ means upright pale or stake.
The other word ‘xulon’ denotes a piece of dead log or
wood or timber, for fuel or for any other purpose.
It is not like ‘dendron’ which is used of a living
or green tree. The verb ‘stauroo’ means to drive stakes.
Our English word ‘cross’ is the translation of the Latin
word ‘crux’; but the the Greek ‘stauros’ no more means
‘crux’ than a “stick” mean “crutch”.
Stauros never means two pieces of timber placed across
one over the other at any angle, but is ALWAYS of
one piece of alone. There is nothing in the Greek
of the New Testament even to imply two pieces of timber.
Acts 5:30- The God of our fathers raised up Jesus,
whom ye slew and hanged on a tree ‘xulon’ (dead
timber or stake). The present day understanding
of the cross was introduced by the Roman Church late in
the Forth Century. It has no basis in the Bible.
E. W. Bullinger-The Companion Bible.


17 posted on 04/03/2010 4:54:01 PM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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To: theBuckwheat

I often call it Resurrection Sunday.


18 posted on 04/03/2010 4:54:14 PM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: theBuckwheat

theBuckwheat: “There are various ways of sugar-coating this, but the history on this point is far more settled than is AlGore’s GlobalLukeWarming.”

Why would you burden people who celebrate Easter by talking about its history? So what if it was ORIGINALLY created by government edict? We don’t celebrate Easter by government edict. We celebrate it because it means Christ is risen.

I guess I’m trying to make the point (probably not very well) that I think you are mistakenly burdening believers. You are trying to hold them to a standard that has absolutely nothing to do with what they actually believe. We are supposed to be free of such laws of men.

What matters is what people think and feel in their hearts when they worship right now, not what some government did over a thousand years ago. Christians are simply celebrating Christ’s resurrection. There’s nothing wrong with that. Lighten up, brother!


19 posted on 04/03/2010 5:14:00 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Governor Palin backs RINO extraordinaire Juan McPain (and that just sucks!))
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To: Rightly Biased

In the JW book, the admit the following verse speaks of Jesus:

“Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” Acts 4:12

Yet their denomination is built on Joel 2:32, which says, “Whoever calls on the name of Jehovah shall be saved.”

Either there are two ways (and two names) to heaven, or Jesus is Jehovah. Jesus is Jehovah!


20 posted on 04/03/2010 5:15:52 PM PDT by aimhigh
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