Posted on 05/05/2010 10:48:55 AM PDT by markomalley
"Fatima is a particularly significant place for this Pope," said Vatican spokesman Fr. Federico Lombardi on Tuesday, noting that it was also a destination for two former Popes. The Holy Father has a thorough knowledge of the history of the Marian sanctuary, he added.
Fr. Lombardi held a press conference at the Vatican to prepare the media for the Pope's next trip out of the Vatican. He will be visiting Portugal from May 11-14.
The spokesman referred to the Pope's stop in Fatima on May 13 as the highlight and "heart" of the upcoming four-day trip to Portugal, according to Vatican Radio. But, he pointed out, Benedict XVI will not be the first Pope to visit the Marian shrine.
Two other Pontiffs have been to Fatima. In 1967, the sanctuary hosted Paul VI, and John Paul II visited in 1982, 1991 and 2000, at which time the visionaries Jacinta and Francesco were beatified.
The Portuguese shrine is not unfamiliar to Pope Benedict, since as head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger extensively studied the message of Fatima. Fr. Lombardi said on Tuesday that the Pope has been involved with history of the Marian sanctuary in a "very deep, personal way."
It was him, for example, who was called upon to give a theological perspective when the third secret of Fatima was made public in 2000.
The Vatican spokesman said that the Holy Father will also deliver an intense message during his Fatima visit. Upon his arrival at the sanctuary on May 12, he will remember John Paul II and the 29th anniversary of the assassination attempt that nearly took his life on May 13, 1981.
This visit marks the Holy Father's 15th Apostolic Journey abroad in his five years and is his first to Portugal as Pope.
During today's general audience, the Holy Father greeted the people of Portugal in their language, telling them that he will be there this coming weekend at the invitation of the president of the nation and the episcopal conference.
He said he was "happy to be able to visit the 'land of Holy Mary'" on the 10th anniversary of the beatification of the shepherd children.
According to Portuguese press reports, local police are planning for a cumulative total of 450,000 people at the celebrations in Lisbon, Fatima and Portugal during the four-day visit.
NONSENSE....INDEED. Protest-ant theology is completely man made and denies the entire authority of Apostolic Tradition. How do you believe the early Catholic Church functioned BEFORE the writing of the Gospels and the reinterpretation of the Scripture by the 16th century heretics if not by Apostolic Tradition? Why do you believe that the Protestant Churches are devoid of altars, putting in their place pulpits so as to supplant worship and the primacy of the presence of Christ with sermons? Why do you believe that Protestant Churches deny the presence of Christ in the Eucharist putting in its place the words of men?
I can only say this; the obsession of some non-Catholics to continually prowl the Catholic topic threads and attempt to validate their shaky beliefs by repeatedly testing them against those of Christ's own Church is very revealing. This Catholic believes that many of you are being guided to these threads by the Holy Spirit so that you can know the truth denied you from the pulpits and printing presses of those same 16th century heretics.
Finding is not a problem.
Convincing of facts, is.
Obviously not a space cadet.
In the first year of my PhD program, the org/dev prof had us sit in on a board or some such meeting of the institution.
We were to take notes on sequence, positions, collaborations, functions, effects etc.
That course was quite instructive and enlightening.
Inferences are hazardous. However, one can speak fairly strictly about function, sequence, effects, results without ever getting inside the ‘black box.’
NOPE.
What a pile of off-the-wall-wrong words.
lol. Only if that town square were in Vladivostok or Havana.
Thank God Romanist suppression of dissenting beliefs has not yet co-opted this country as we've seen it work to do on this forum.
>>. . . the 70 X 7 was to forgive . . . <<
Sure was.
I don’t think there would be a single argument
about who was the more saintly of the two of us.
Which part is false? Is it:
A. That some on this thread have not denied that God sent His mother to Fatima.
or
B. That some have suggested that UFOs were sent to Fatima.
AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!
>>. . . the 70 X 7 was to forgive . . . <<
Oh. I was doing it wrong.
I was using a 2 by 4.
“Jesus is God.”
Yep.
“The Pope is the Holy Father...”
It is a blasphemy to give God’s title to a sin-filled fallen man. It also leads to deception as that man is falsely elevated above other men and to the level of Christ.
“...the head of the Church here on earth...”
The head of those who follow and obey him, Popeians, not the head of Christians. The head of Christians, whether they be on Earth or not, is the Lord Jesus Christ. No man can be elevated to Christ’s position no matter what. It is deception to say, “Christ is in heaven, not here, so we need a man to “be Christ” down here for us.” This is a golden calf.
“... the Church that Jesus founded.”
Jesus founded the Body of Christ, made up of all Christians, on the Rock that is HIM. It is deception to take that clear Scripture and twist it into supporting a blasphemous notion that Christ formed a political power bureaucracy, filled with idolatry and blasphemy, that also took it upon themselves to dictate who gets saved and who is Christian.
“Jesus wanted it that way...”
Sin-filled, fallen, power hungry men wanted it that way. They wanted the people to believe they were following God, to gain an aura of respectability and dominance, all the while they were doing just what they wanted to do, which is the opposite of what God says to do in the Bible. They are tricksters, deceivers. They used this power to subjugate people, gain riches, and further the aims of their true master Satan. How could it be otherwise when they are constantly, pridefully, arrogantly, and contemptuously doing the opposite of what God says to do in His Word?
They love worshiping idols and speaking blasphemies. Then when a Christian corrects them, they claim they are Christians!! It is deception. They pretend they are Christians so they can demand their idols and blasphemies be accepted and allowed.
“The succession of Pope’s will be unbroken.”
There is no such thing. It is made up out of whole cloth by doctrines of men. There is NOTHING of this in the Word. NOTHING. It is a way to install a permanent power structure for the evil men who care nothing for God and just want to worship idols. They love the protection from scrutiny and from those who would tell the truth, that their aura of “godliness” gives them. This is why they can run NAMBLA mills. They have fooled millions into giving them money and power and prestige on the lie that they are of God.
“... from Peter to the end of time.”
More like ‘the end of the age’. Once Christ returns there will be no more idolatry and blasphemy.
~snip~
Then when a Christian corrects them, they claim they are Christians!! It is deception. They pretend they are Christians so they can demand their idols and blasphemies be accepted and allowed.
Perhaps you will answer a couple questions. I'll make it really easy, you can give yes or no answers.
1. Is Pope Benedict XVI a Christian? YES or NO.
2. Are most Catholics Christians? YES or NO.
Move over Cleopatra, there is a new "Queen of Denial".
I’m betting that answers are both “No.”
Tra la.
I’m in deep trouble, since we routinely pray “Our holy father Dominic ... pray for us.”
It never ceases to amaze me that certain people are unable to answer yes or no questions.
UNMITIGATED, UNTRUE, FALSE, STRAW DOG/ STRAW MAN-FILLED NONSENSE. I don't know a single person hereon who believes God has such an INABILITY. What a farce to assert otherwise.
yet at the same time they are fully prepared to believe that Satan has the ability to send UFOs with a message.
Evidently, you don't. LOL. I guess that's an indication of how much the rabid cliques know & understand about the topic!
They are blasphemous because they are trying to argue that Satan is more powerful than God.
WHAT A HORRENDOUS OUTRAGEOUSLY FARCICAL PILE OF UNMITIGATED COWBOY FRISBEES--THAT FALL APART ON THE FIRST LANDING.
I don't know of a single Protty who believes that--much less is trying to argue it.
I guess the rabid cliques are having a special week of emphasis--there seems to be lots of competition for
THE WHITE HANKY CHAPEAU OF THE MONTH AWARD FOR THE MOST OUTRAGEOUS EXAMPLE OF BEARING FALSE WITNESS on the part of an RC.
The line for retractions, apologies, repentance for such false witness assertions forms to the left. Oh, there's no line. Oh, not a single person is at the counter.
WHAT A SURPRISE!
Not!
That is the Church's understanding. It goes back to the question as to whether God created man or vice versa. Our Calvinist friends think that they have reversed the Divine order.
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