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Pope Benedict to deliver 'intense' message during Fatima visit
EWTN News ^ | 5/5/2010

Posted on 05/05/2010 10:48:55 AM PDT by markomalley

"Fatima is a particularly significant place for this Pope," said Vatican spokesman Fr. Federico Lombardi on Tuesday, noting that it was also a destination for two former Popes. The Holy Father has a thorough knowledge of the history of the Marian sanctuary, he added.

Fr. Lombardi held a press conference at the Vatican to prepare the media for the Pope's next trip out of the Vatican. He will be visiting Portugal from May 11-14.

The spokesman referred to the Pope's stop in Fatima on May 13 as the highlight and "heart" of the upcoming four-day trip to Portugal, according to Vatican Radio. But, he pointed out, Benedict XVI will not be the first Pope to visit the Marian shrine.

Two other Pontiffs have been to Fatima. In 1967, the sanctuary hosted Paul VI, and John Paul II visited in 1982, 1991 and 2000, at which time the visionaries Jacinta and Francesco were beatified.

The Portuguese shrine is not unfamiliar to Pope Benedict, since as head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger extensively studied the message of Fatima. Fr. Lombardi said on Tuesday that the Pope has been involved with history of the Marian sanctuary in a "very deep, personal way."

It was him, for example, who was called upon to give a theological perspective when the third secret of Fatima was made public in 2000.

The Vatican spokesman said that the Holy Father will also deliver an intense message during his Fatima visit. Upon his arrival at the sanctuary on May 12, he will remember John Paul II and the 29th anniversary of the assassination attempt that nearly took his life on May 13, 1981.

This visit marks the Holy Father's 15th Apostolic Journey abroad in his five years and is his first to Portugal as Pope.

During today's general audience, the Holy Father greeted the people of Portugal in their language, telling them that he will be there this coming weekend at the invitation of the president of the nation and the episcopal conference.

He said he was "happy to be able to visit the 'land of Holy Mary'" on the 10th anniversary of the beatification of the shepherd children.

According to Portuguese press reports, local police are planning for a cumulative total of 450,000 people at the celebrations in Lisbon, Fatima and Portugal during the four-day visit.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; History; Islam
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To: cmj328

Your behavior strikes me as trollish, cmj328.

Catholics are certainly free to call Protestants heretics, and it happens multiple times a day. Catholics see that as the truth. To Protestants, it’s slander.

Protestants strongly object to many teachings of the Catholic church. They did, after all, separate themselves for such reasons. To Protestants, it’s the truth. To Catholics, it’s slander.

See how that works?

Now, if you could just explain how you veered into this particular topic. You seem to believe that your Pope Benedict’s intense message somehow relates to Onanism?

Huh?


741 posted on 05/08/2010 9:03:46 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: cmj328
That was not "making it personal" for the same reason your remark "It’s clear that you think" was not making it personal in 734. In both instances, the poster is expressing his own mind not the mind of the other Freeper.

If you had said "you think" or if he had said "you're getting a thrill" then it would have been "mind reading" which is a form of "making it personal."

742 posted on 05/08/2010 9:05:28 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: cmj328
Perhaps you could clarify if you think masturbation is forbidden under the moral law.

- Which commandment do didn't Onan violate? Exodus 20:12, 20:14, or 20:17?
- Which commandment was Deut. 25:5-6 a case law for?
- Which commandment was more important for Onan to keep than the other(s)?
- Were any of the commandments not in effect, pre-Exodus?
- Why is yet another Catholic going off-subject, and redirecting the focus onto genitalia?

743 posted on 05/08/2010 9:05:40 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Pretentiousness is so beneath me.)
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To: cmj328

I stated my personal opinion. Look for offense hard enough and you’ll find it. You appear to be trying pretty hard.


744 posted on 05/08/2010 9:06:07 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Alex Murphy

“Let your yes mean yes, and your no mean no”


745 posted on 05/08/2010 9:07:57 PM PDT by cmj328 (Got ruthless?)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Do you care to explain the relevance of your veering into this topic, to the topic of the thread? Is this somehow related to Pope Benedict’s “intense” message?

1. Communists spread sexual immorality to the West in order to undermine our society. They did this in some cases by infiltrating seminaries.

2. The Fatima Secret provided the method (the Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary) by which the spread of the errors of Communism would be halted.

746 posted on 05/08/2010 9:09:10 PM PDT by cmj328 (Got ruthless?)
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To: cmj328
“Let your yes mean yes, and your no mean no”

"...do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing..."
"...if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away..."

747 posted on 05/08/2010 9:12:55 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Pretentiousness is so beneath me.)
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To: Alex Murphy

I guess you’re not going to answer the question.


748 posted on 05/08/2010 9:15:00 PM PDT by cmj328 (Got ruthless?)
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To: cmj328
1. Communists spread sexual immorality to the West in order to undermine our society. They did this in some cases by infiltrating seminaries.

2. The Fatima Secret provided the method (the Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary) by which the spread of the errors of Communism would be halted.

An interesting perspective and way of tying the two topics together, to be sure. Are you suggesting that I'm a Communist?

749 posted on 05/08/2010 9:15:17 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Pretentiousness is so beneath me.)
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To: cmj328

You’re really painting yourself into a corner, here. I somehow doubt Pope Benedict is going to deliver an intense message pertaining to Onanism at that odd shrine to an apparition known as Fatima.


750 posted on 05/08/2010 9:15:59 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Alamo-Girl

PRAISE GOD FOR THOSE PRECIOUS SCRIPTURES AND THEIR HOPE FILLED TRUTHS.

THX
THX

And thanks for your kind words.


751 posted on 05/08/2010 9:17:34 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Alex Murphy

Are you preaching sexual immorality? You haven’t answered the question. Is this why you attack the Catholic Church?


752 posted on 05/08/2010 9:17:47 PM PDT by cmj328 (Got ruthless?)
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To: Quix
Thank you so much for your encouragements, dear brother in Christ!
753 posted on 05/08/2010 9:19:30 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alex Murphy

[slapping fingers and doggedly scrolling on by rather than . . . fiesty-ly replying]


754 posted on 05/08/2010 9:19:36 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: cmj328

NOPE.

Scripture says

in terms of mortals . . .

THE HEART IS DECEITFULLY WICKED, WHO CAN KNOW IT.

That included Mary’s heart.


755 posted on 05/08/2010 9:20:47 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

A clean heart create in me, O God, put a steadfast spirit within me.


756 posted on 05/08/2010 9:21:53 PM PDT by cmj328 (Got ruthless?)
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To: RegulatorCountry

He will talk about sin, its effects and its remedies.

Its effects include the everlasting fires of Hell.

Its remedies include Baptism, and Confession and forgiveness of sins in the Catholic Church.


757 posted on 05/08/2010 9:23:46 PM PDT by cmj328 (Got ruthless?)
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To: Quix

Do you not believe that Christ is fully human, as well as fully divine?


758 posted on 05/08/2010 9:24:34 PM PDT by cmj328 (Got ruthless?)
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To: cmj328

Certainly . . .

Christ’s Blood makes us legally perfect before God.

Working it into our being seems to be a lifelong process.

And, I don’t think we stop growing once we reach Heaven.


759 posted on 05/08/2010 9:24:51 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: cmj328
"But God forbid we proclaim sexual morality in its fullness. Then come the cries for censorship."

However, accusations that the Catholic Church operates "NAMBLA Mills", an organization whose stated purpose is to promote and make sodomy with young boys legal, it is considered neither sexual nor offensive enough for Moderator action.

760 posted on 05/08/2010 9:25:12 PM PDT by Natural Law
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