Posted on 05/25/2010 10:19:08 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman
CRI Statement
A leading East Coast New Age magazine, New Frontier, recently ran a “dirt for sale” advertisement in its November issue. But this one had a twist — the dirt had allegedly been supercharged by extraterrestrials (ETs). It stated: UFO LANDING site radiates cosmic energy alters psychic awareness. Soil samples $5 + p&h.
Not surprisingly, the Boulder, Colorado firm that ran the ad did not respond to a letter asking for proof that there was something unusual about the dirt.
While it is not immediately known how many people actually sent in their $5, the appearance of such an ad is not unusual. Alongside all the ads bought by New Agers — peddling crystals, “power within” seminars, and channeling sessions — are news bits about recent UFO landings, announcements of upcoming UFO conferences, and advertisements from some of the nation’s leading names in the field of UFOs and the New Age. Some of the ads are placed by alleged “walk-ins,” people who claim that ETs have literally invaded their bodies and can be summoned up (sometimes for a fee) to share wisdom and Ann Landers type advice.
In short, more and more people today are saying UFOs have landed. And while proof that they have seems consistently elusive, it is clear that the phenomenon of UFOlogy — a fascination with UFOs and alleged space creatures — has landed squarely in the middle of the New Age movement.
What is behind the recent resurgence of interest in UFOs, particularly in New Age circles?
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No the DNA is accurate Quix. and very much current. Though details were not as through as some might like here on Fr. But I can get it and go deeper into this.
The reason I can say this is because many of the teachers using DNA “science” as they might like to call what they do...is not that at all but they can sure make it sound like it to the people who are not informed about DNA.
A double-minded man cannot know the things of God; thus, he is left to the ways of the world, the flesh, and the devil. This is “Ever coming to knowledge, but never coming to the truth!...... “ Without truth we will be deceived........
Neither Mary nor Joseph had not the spirit of God as we do...Christ had not risen yet nor had the holy spirit been sent Jesus promised to us who would lead us to truth.
We have the spirit of God in us to teach and lead and comfort etc.
SO, if I understand this right you’re saying that since Jesus had not yet been born that Mary and Joseph could not know the truth, and the spirit of God was not in them???
Simply not worth my time to engage in this debate! You gave me all I needed to know about you in that post right there!
No I’m not saying that... we are talking about entities and if or not they are revealing themselves to us today or not. Some believe what they see are angels...as you mentioned. I asked what scriptures referenced we are to engage converstaion with entities and how does one determine they are angels...with the scripture you might reference.
You mentioned the Angelic announcement...my point is the spirit of God was sent at Pentecost...and now to each who acccepts the finished work of Christ as well. So therefore since Christ himself is within us why would anyone consider engaging angels or even determine if they are an angel...and what scripture would your reference to that.
Christs death and reserrection changed everything of Gods means to communicate with us....we now have him within us via his holy spirit
OF COURSE 90% or so of the abductees had dabbled in the occult in one way or another.
Satan’s crews are all interconnected!
I don’t know how detailed I’m interested in the DNA. It just sounded like your info was a few years old.
I don’t know anyone more interested in THE TRUTH and THE TRUTHS OF GOD on FR than Quix is.
BTW, have you checked out Guy Malone’s websites, at all?
imho, he has a larger, clearer, more accurate grasp of THE TRUTH and GOD’S TRUTHS in the midst of all this than anone else I’ve come across.
I’ve tried to raise the consciences of many hereon to remember the Scripture Christ gave about checking . . . does anyone purporting to come from God acknowledge that Christ came in the flesh etc., or not.
God spoke at first directly to man..(Adam)(Noah) (Abraham) etc....then thru the prophets with defined ways for the people to tell the difference between false prophets and those who he truly sent...He also warned against listening and seeking out those who were not from him who channeled spirits... (as Saul did).
Then there were the dark ages where everything was believed of spirits and the means to converse with them was rapid. They don't call them the “dark age” for nothing...darkness truly influenced many of the happenings then.
God's answer for the depravity of man then was He himself would come and live among men thru Christ...and that thru His death, Resurrection, and accession to the right hand of God we would have forgiveness and therefore our position before Him changed completely...He promised not to leave His followers alone...(as prior was the case) but would send us the comforter (His Spirit) which is Himself...
Therefor we now have a direct relationship and access to God...there is no need to go thru anyone else...and that includes angels...there is no need to communicate with God thru other means, although He does love to use people.....additionally we have His written word to confirm what we think He might be telling us or guiding us in. If it opposes Gods word then it is not from Him...period.
Also there is an overall “emptying” of oneself to prepare the body for that possession.....very similar to what the UFO New Agers teach as they go thru the levels of meditation....they just change the vocabulary so it will be more palatable....”Christ consciousness”...which is commonly called now in new age circles...but it is a grave deception. (satan likes to counterfeit everything that is Christian)and it's dangerous.
Also there is an overall “emptying” of oneself to prepare the body for that possession.....very similar to what the UFO New Agers teach as they go thru the levels of meditation....they just change the vocabulary so it will be more palatable....”Christ consciousness”...which is commonly called now in new age circles...but it is a grave deception. (satan likes to counterfeit everything that is Christian)and it's dangerous.
So, you’re saying that God gave
the following Scriptures uselessly, for no good purpose?
3.1 John 4:2
Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
1 John 4:1-3 (in Context) 1 John 4 (Whole Chapter)
4.1 John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
1 John 4:2-4 (in Context) 1 John 4 (Whole Chapter)
5.2 John 1:7
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
What a silly idea.
I guess you wouldn’t find
ROLAND BUCK’S
ANGELS ON ASSIGNMENT very edifying.
It’s a free online book. It really strengthened my relationship with God.
Evidently you’ve torn the Scriptures about entertaining angels unaware out of your Bible.
Methinks your God is too small.
Actually, your ‘constructions on reality’ about God . . . seem to be far too inadequate.
Thanks for the ping!
That loosely qualifies me to respond to you. It was my observation that most of the people who get suckered by all of this are completely ignorant of physics. Now, I'm not even talking about the biggest problems related to interstellar flight. (If we assume the ETs have managed to circumvent the problems of interstellar flight just to explain the weird stuff.) UFO/New Age belief systems are based upon things that just aren't true.
I remember one charlatan "expert" lady who taught "new age science", and claimed to be an expert physicist. When I asked her to resolve some force vectors on the white board, she became defiant. It wasn't long before she admitted that she didn't have a clue about resolving force vectors. That problem is "Physics 101" and ordinary trigonometry. Imagine how they'd come apart if they had to find solutions to magnetic flux or field charge problems?
The easiest way to penetrate this veil is to ask the "new age experts" to show the math behind their assumptions. They will attempt to proclaim that their knowledge transcends Newtonian physics. It can then be shown that they don't know Newtonian physics, which we demonstrated to be true ages ago.
This is sort of a tricky process, because it is the "small things" that show the "biggest cracks". You won't be able to argue the loopy belief system head on, because you will have little basis to contradict the imaginary physics they profess. They will speak of "vibrational levels". That is core to their crud. Ask them what the vibrational frequencies might be for each level. The cracks, on the other hand, are most evident in ordinary down-to-earth physics. If they don't know that, how could they know this hocus-pocus stuff?
If your family member does not know any physics, encourage him to learn some and then test the "experts". Pray fervently for guidance and revelation. God will help, but He is very subtle sometimes.
This is a cornerstone concept.
....”This is a cornerstone concept”...
Could you enlarge on this meaning?
Thank you for that detailed account. It is truly appreciated GK.
Guy Malone at
and
HTTP://WWW.ALIENRESISTENCE.ORG
Has helped 100’s of individuals and families become free of the demonic entanglements involved with the UFO stuff . . . as well as stopping abductions and poltergeist etc. phenomena that, in some cases, has followed families for generations.
The most important thing to do when faced with a "deprogramming" problem is demonstrate that the new age teachings cannot be substantiated through mathematics or physical experiments. The new age seers are generally not particularly well-versed in actual sciences. It is an easy task to demonstrate this. From that point it is easier to discredit those teachers: If they don't know or understand classical physics, how could they know and understand super-duper-interstellar physics?
Each individual must judge for themselves if they are being snookered. The rest of us need to equip endangered individuals with the tools of discernment.
When you boil it down, new age followers are rather ignorant, but rarely stupid. Stupidity is permanent while ignorance can be cured through education.
Except that we really can't hear Him talk, or carry on a conversation. Those "others" are making use of that apparent void in people's desire to carry on actual discourse with God.
Maybe the church needs to pursue actual communications with God. Is it possible? We are taught that God hears our prayers. Why then do we not hear the reply? Is there a form of meditation that enables this? We do know that Christ went into the desert to meditate. Any details on what is accomplished there?
The church is woefully lacking in explaining these all-important spiritual matters. That is, sadly, why people seek some sort of fulfillment outside of the church. If the church actually knew something about all of this, they could teach definitively on these matters. Alas, most clergy are truly afraid of actual spiritual matters.
You have directed me there numerous times in the past. I have read that stuff and seen the videos. There is merit to what he says.
On the other hand, I believe that there are ETs, and that they now visit us. I believe that those ETs are merely other forms of "mankind" from distant places. I also believe that SOME nasty demons or perhaps SOME unscrupulous ETs are using their abilities and technologies to snooker us. I have no reason to believe that ETs are going to be any nicer than Earth folks. I believe that telepathy is possible for Earth folks, but we really don't yet know how to do that with any clarity. (I have experienced telepathic communications of sorts myself.) It is no stretch of imagingation to believe that anyone who knows how to use telepathy would use it to no good. Earth people use all of their senses and all of their intellect for decietful or controlling purposes. Why wouldn't people from other worlds do exactly the same thing, all without being demonic?
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