Posted on 08/18/2010 4:57:29 PM PDT by Colofornian
To begin his series titled “Myths and Realities about Mormonism,” Robert L. Millet, professor of ancient scripture and former dean of Religious Education at BYU, addressed the myth that Latter-day Saints disrespect, reject and contradict the Holy Bible.
After quoting extensively from an April 2007 general conference talk by Elder M. Russell Ballard of the Quorum of the Twelve, titled “The Miracle of the Holy Bible,” Millet explained that part of the public’s misconceptions about the LDS view of the Bible might be a result of church members spending too little time with it.
“The fact of the matter is that the Holy Bible is deeply significant in our family of scripture,” he said. “Frankly, I don’t love one member of the family more than any other.”
Millet next addressed the eighth Article of Faith, a common passage church members use to describe that they believe in the Bible “as far as it is translated correctly.” He acknowledged that though translation is a difficult process and errors are a concern, he believes there is an added layer of meaning to the verse.
“I’m convinced that Joseph Smith, as much as anything, meant transmission — that’s moving from one generation to the next,” he said.
Millet added that conversion is not entirely dependent on scripture, though it is an important element in the conversion process.
“A person doesn’t become fully a Christian by reading, nor do they become a Christian by having a certain vocabulary,” he said. “I don’t think salvation comes by proper vocabulary.”
To wrap up his discussion on translation, Millet quoted President George Q. Cannon, a counselor to four early presidents of the Church: “The clause in the Articles of Faith regarding mistakes in the translation of the Bible was never intended to encourage us to spend our time in searching out and studying the errors, but to emphasize the idea that it is the truth and the truth only that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints accepts, no matter where it is found.”
Next, Millet addressed how The Book of Mormon and other modern revelation establish the truth of the Bible. He cited Doctrine and Covenants 20:5-11, which recounts Joseph Smith’s efforts to bring forth The Book of Mormon, “which was given by inspiration … proving to the world that the holy scriptures are true.”
“What holy scriptures would have been around in 1830?” Millet asked. “The Bible.”
This idea of establishing truth, Millet added, is evident in the number of biblical allusions made by those who wrote The Book of Mormon.
“If you and I read The Book of Mormon carefully,” he said, “we will see that The Book of Mormon writers presupposed that we had a Bible.”
By a careful, systematic study of both the Old and New Testaments, Millet said church members can use them to clarify passages in modern scripture. One example he gave was 3 Nephi 23:14, which states that Jesus “expounded all the scriptures in one.” To understand this phrase better, Millet directed the audience to Luke 24:27, in which the resurrected Savior walked with two disciples on the road to Emmaus.
Without revealing His identity, the verse reads, “And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.”
Millet acknowledged that many Latter-day Saints frequently do the opposite: use modern-day scripture to clarify the Bible. He exhorted them to apply that idea in reverse, as well.
“I promise you there are scores and hundreds of [examples],” he said. “That’s just as it should be. The greatest commentary on scripture is scripture, and it needs to work in both directions.”
To conclude his remarks, Millet quoted Joseph Smith: “He that can mark the power of omnipotence inscribed upon the heavens can also see God’s own handwriting in the sacred volume [the Bible]. And he who reads it oftenest will like it the best.”
Millet added his testimony of the truthfulness of the Bible and its importance in the LDS canon.
“The Bible is a part of the family of holy scripture,” he said. “Never, never, never let us treat it as an ugly stepsister.”
Guess what? A speaker wouldn't even need to say this unless, indeed, some (or more than some) Mormons were widely guilty of treating the Bible like an "ugly stepsister."
From the article: Millet acknowledged that many Latter-day Saints frequently do the opposite: use modern-day scripture to clarify the Bible. He exhorted them to apply that idea in reverse, as well. “I promise you there are scores and hundreds of [examples],” he said. “That’s just as it should be. The greatest commentary on scripture is scripture, and it needs to work in both directions.”
Well, Millet has at least been partially listening to Evangelicals, who've been telling Mormons for years that the Bible standard for judging new revelations is to compare the new up against the existing standard of revelation. Per the Bible, that is "nobility": Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true. (Acts 17:11)
IOW, the Bereans compared Paul's revelations to the Old Testament. Those considering Mormon "revelations" should always compare them to the Bible.
And "Millet acknowledged that many Latter-day Saints frequently do the opposite". IOW, Mormons have been guilty of using Joseph Smith alone as a filter for everything they believe...They read the Bible thru Smith eyes in the JST, the D&C, the Book of Abraham, and the Book of Mormon. Millet says the Bible clarifies everything else. (Well, at least he's saying the Bible also clarifies other claims), which goes at least further than most Mormons toward the right direction.
Nobility. Finally, at least a Mormon authority is willing to partially put forth this character claim. Unfortunately, it doesn't really "touch" Mormon doctrine at all.
Mormonism doesn't derive much of its teachings from the Bible (More on that next two posts)
In Mormonism, the Bible ranks last. Of the essential doctrines Christianity teaches, the only ones Mormonism comes close to are:
(a) Christ's sinlesslessness [David A. Christensen of the Salt Lake Institute of Religion is especially starting to emphasize this well]
(b) Christ's bodily resurrection [Even then, Mormons don't celebrate this with a special day like Christians do...if the Sabbath happens to fall on an Easter Sunday, there might be some recognition; otherwise, no]
(c) Christ's second coming [Even here, Lds apostle Bruce McConkie taught that Christ would re-institute polygamy when he returned]
Otherwise...note the following as to what "trumps" what as their trustworthy source of believing what they believe:
* Grace? (That's redefined as "works" & "worthiness" by the Book of Mormon -- what man does to force or prompt God's favor)
* Gods plural? (That's derived from Doctrine & Covenants & the Book of Abraham; all other so-called "gods" are not known by the true God...see Isaiah 43, 44, 45, 46 and especially Galatians 4:8 Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those who by nature are not gods.
* God's unity? (Oh, sure, the Lds at times mention the "godhead" to sound like they focus on that; but they give more credence to the unity of the "First Presidency" -- the top three hierarchical leaders in the church -- than they do to God the Father, God the Son, and the Holy Spirit)
* God's tri-unity? (They try to conquer & divide on this one; but this is a "false teaching" per Mormonism)
* Sin as human depravity? (Redefined as "falling upward" to become a god -- BoM)
* The church falling into complete apostasy? (Not found in the Bible; Jesus and Paul both prophesied such in Matt. 16:18 & Eph. 3:21; taught in the BoM; D&C & non-canonical Mormon teachings)
* Jesus Christ as a "dead prophet" that needed to be replaced by a new prophet? (The opposite is taught in Hebrews 1:1-2; Joseph Smith bragged he was the only man who knew how to keep a church together; he specifically dissed Jesus and the apostle Paul for not being to able to accomplish that in his eyes)
* A final judgment that includes eternal hell? (Although the BoM at times mentions an everlasting hell, these passages are ignored as the D&C refines "damnation" to be a temporary "damned up" situation...spirit prison in Mormonism is temporary)
* Virgin birth? (Brigham Young & Bruce McConkie taught this was a "literal paternity" McConkie's exact words...and Young said the Father made Mary pregnant "rather than letting any other man do it"...though many Mormons do indeed disagree with Young & McConkie...they've never gone far enough...they don't openly & publicly teach these two taught false doctrine on this)
* Christ's deity? (Lds apostle McConkie in Doctrinal New Testament Commentary, Vol. 3, p. 238 said the Mormon "jesus" "Needs salvation...Came to earth to work out His own salvation” IOW...the Mormon jesus wasn't God from eternity past; but was a "being" who needed to be saved)
* The cross of Christ? (Widely & historically regarded by Mormon leadership as a "pagan" symbol; no crosses ever don any Mormon church facility; Mormon missionaries don't preach the cross of Christ)
* A pre-existence? (Although some biblical passages reference God's foreknowledge of people like Jeremiah and Paul, they take that out of context & their teaching on a so-called illogical pre-existence comes from the D&C)
Pod people value the Bible ...
But I’m not sure what they use it for...
“we will see that The Book of Mormon writers presupposed that we had a Bible.”
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You dont say ???
Now begorra ...
why do you suppose that would be ???
Since there were no Bibles to be had in 600 BC
I’ll believe Mormon’s value the Bible when they listen to the part where Jesus said there is no Marriage in heaven.
When they admit that their celestial marriage rites are anti-scriptural and that Joseph Smith was no prophet, that’s when I’ll start to believe they care what the Bible says.
I've saved two aspects -- Christ's atoning death -- and "faith" -- because of how Mormon leaders nuance these that takes a little more explanation to see the distinctions:
Christ's atoning death?
This is indeed the heart of it. When Christ said from the cross, "It is finished" He indeed used the common phrase of His time for the completion of an economic transaction: "Paid in full"
That is in such stark contrast to what Lds apostle Jeffrey Holland highlighted in an article he wrote on the atonement:
From that article: Latter-day Saints believe that other aspects of Christ's gift are conditional upon obedience and diligence in keeping God's commandments. For example, while members of the human family are freely and universally given a reprieve from Adam's sin through no effort or action of their own, they are not freely and universally given a reprieve of their own sins unless they pledge faith in Christ, repent of those sins, are baptized in his name, receive the gift of the Holy Ghost and confirmation into Christ's church... [Source -- especially if you want to see this graph in entire context: ATONEMENT OF JESUS CHRIST - Mormon- (OPEN)]
Per Mormonism -- this means that if you join the "wrong" church, your "reprieve of" your "own sins" isn't going to come from your pardon-Governing god. (More "conditions").
This Mormon "apostle" claims: they are not freely and universally given a reprieve of their own sins unless they...receive...confirmation into Christ's church... (meaning the Mormon church!)
So the church then -- in this case the Mormon church -- becomes the "substitutionary replacement" as the sin-bearer of your personal sins vs. Jesus Christ. What blasphemy about Christ! What blasphemy about the atonement!
What is it about Lds general authorities that they think they can toss around Christ's blood as to who it will reprieve and who it won't? I mean that's what the whole Lds false historical doctrine of blood atonement was all about! Why don't grassroots Mormons ever hold their leaders accountable for obvious past (& present) false doctrines? (Even things they patently know are false!)
Faith? (Oh sure, Mormonism requires it like a commandment laundry list, but they don't emphasize that faith is a gift of God; plus they include the covenant of faith to include the institution of the Mormon church...which means if you don't have a covenant with the Mormon church & Mormon temple...you're not exercising "true faith" in their opinion)
Example: Marion G. Romney, Mitt's father's cousin. Marion Romney, one of the top three hierarchical leaders in the Mormon church in the 60s, likewise usurped Jesus' own words in John 14:6 when he said:
"This Church is the ensign on the mountain spoken of by the Old Testament prophets. It is the way, the truth, and the life" (Conference Report, April, 1961, p. 119)]
Utter idolatry! Jesus Christ alone qualifies as the object of faith -- He Himself constitute "the Way, the truth, and the life. NO man comes to the Father, but by me." (John 14:6)
The Lds church, thru its teachings by the likes of...
Marion Romney,
Brigham Young (blood atonement)
and Lds "apostle" Holland,
has and is engaging in open idolatry in erecting substitutes in favor of the blood of Christ as the Living Way.
I call upon this false apostle (Holland) to repent, and for Mormon grassroots to find the backbone to realize God holds us accountable for replacing Christ and His blood with a church structure. The same "woe" Jesus gives in Luke 11 is appropriate to leaders of the Mormon church: "Woe to you experts in the law, because you have taken away the key to knowledge. You yourselves have not entered, and you have hindered those who were entering." (Luke 11:52)
This is a serious warning Christ gave. Heed it as such.
“LDS people value the Bible”....... Isn’t that special?.. <<- persona: church lady
I'm happy they “value” the Bible but according to them it is CORRUPT and had to be rewritten. The Book of Mormon and
The term derives from the Book of Mormon, a sacred text published in 1830 regarded by the faith as a supplemental Testament to the Bible. Though dictated by Joseph Smith, Jr., the text claims to be an ancient chronicle of a fallen and lost indigenous American nation, compiled by the prophet–warrior Mormon and his son Moroni, the last of his Nephite people.
(Hardly Christian)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon
These are Mormon beliefs
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, known as the Mormons, teaches that God the father used to be a man on another planet, that he became a God by following the laws and ordinances of that God on that planet and came to this world with his wife (she became a goddess), and that they produce a spirit offspring in heaven. These spirit offspring, which includes Jesus, the devil, and you and me, are all brothers and sisters born in the preexistence. The preexistence spirits come down and inhabit babies at the time of birth and their memories of the preexistence are lost at the time. Furthermore, faithful Mormons, who pay a full 10% tithe of their income to the Mormon church through Mormon temples, have the potential of becoming gods of their own planets and are then able to start the procedure over again.
Is it Christian? No.
If you were to go to any Christian bookstore and look in the non-Christian cult section you will see numerous books on Mormonism that document Mormon beliefs as aberrant and un-Biblical. The Mormon Church is not considered a Christian church.
This is not simply an opinion that they are false; it is a fact that they teach aberrant and unchristian theology. In fact, Jesus warned us about such groups when he said in Matthew 24:24 that in the last days many false Christs and false prophets will arise and deceive many. Mormonism is exactly that, a manifestation of a false prophet: Joseph Smith, who taught all these things.
The Bible does not teach that God came from another planet, or that he has a goddess wife, or that we can become gods. In fact, the Bible clearly and definitely contradicts those teachings. But, the Mormon Church responds by saying that the Bible is not really trustworthy, that the true faith was lost, and that its leader, Joseph Smith, restored the so-called “true” Christian faith: god from another world, becoming gods, goddess mother, etc. Of course, the Mormon Church's claim is not true.
One question to ask the Mormon Church as a whole is why is it that it does not appoint a representative to publicly debate and answer the challenges of competent Christians who know not only the Bible, but what Mormonism teaches? Why is it that the Mormon Church refuses to have open duologue and appoint a representative who would attempt to defend the LDS teachings from the Bible? Why does it refuse to do this? I believe it is because it doesn't want to be made to look bad.
Mormon Beliefs documented
Please note that these teachings are documented from Mormon writers, not anti-Mormon writers:
Book of Mormon
The book of Mormon is more correct than the Bible, (History of the Church, vol. 4, p. 461.)
Devil, the
The Devil was born as a spirit after Jesus “in the morning of pre-existence,” (Mormon Doctrine, p. 192.)
Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers and we were all born as siblings in heaven to them both, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163.)
God
God used to be a man on another planet (Mormon Doctrine, p. 321; Joseph Smith, Times and Seasons, vol. 5, p. 613-614; Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 345; Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 333).
“The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as mans...” (D&C 130:22).
God, becoming a god
After you become a good Mormon, you have the potential of becoming a god (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345-347, 354).
“Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from everlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be gods, because they have all power, and the angels are subject unto them,” (DC 132:20).
God, many gods
There are many gods (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163).
“And they (the Gods) said: Let there be light: and there was light,” (Book of Abraham 4:3).
God, mother goddess
There is a mother god (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 443).
God is married to his goddess wife and has spirit children (Mormon Doctrine, p. 516).
God, Trinity
The trinity is three separate Gods: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. “That these three are separate individuals, physically distinct from each other, is demonstrated by the accepted records of divine dealings with man,” (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 35).
Heaven
There are three levels of heaven: telestial, terrestrial, and celestial (Mormon Doctrine, p. 348).
Holy Ghost, the
The Holy Ghost is a male personage (A Marvelous Work and a Wonder, Le Grand Richards, Salt Lake City, 1956, p. 118; Journal of Discources, vol. 5, p. 179).
Jesus
“Therefore we know that both the Father and the Son are in form and stature perfect men; each of them possesses a tangible body . . . of flesh and bones,” (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 38).
“The birth of the Saviour was as natural as are the births of our children; it was the result of natural action. He partook of flesh and blood - was begotten of his Father, as we were of our fathers,” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 8, p. 115).
“Elohim is literally the Father of the spirit of Jesus Christ and also of the body in which Jesus Christ performed His mission in the flesh ...” (First Presidency and Council of the Twelve, 1916, God the Father, compiled by Gordon Allred, p. 150).
Joseph Smith
If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation. There is no salvation [the context is the full gospel including exaltation to Godhood] outside the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon Doctrine, p. 670).
Pre-existence
We were first begotten as spirit children in heaven and then born naturally on earth (Journal of Discourse, vol. 4, p. 218).
The first spirit to be born in heaven was Jesus (Mormon Doctrine, p. 129).
The Devil was born as a spirit after Jesus “in the morning of pre-existence,” (Mormon Doctrine, p. 192).
Salvation
“One of the most fallacious doctrines originated by Satan and propounded by man is that man is saved alone by the grace of God; that belief in Jesus Christ alone is all that is needed for salvation,” (Miracle of Forgiveness, by Spencer W. Kimball, p. 206).
A plan of salvation was needed for the people of earth so Jesus offered a plan to the Father and Satan offered a plan to the father but Jesus’ plan was accepted. In effect the Devil wanted to be the Savior of all Mankind and to “deny men their agency and to dethrone god,” (Mormon Doctrine, p. 193; Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 8).
Jesus’ sacrifice was not able to cleanse us from all our sins, (murder and repeated adultery are exceptions), (Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, 1856, p. 247).
Good works are necessary for salvation (Articles of Faith, p. 92).
There is no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of God (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p. 188).
“The first effect [of the atonement] is to secure to all mankind alike, exemption from the penalty of the fall, thus providing a plan of General Salvation. The second effect is to open a way for Individual Salvation whereby mankind may secure remission of personal sins (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 78-79).
“As these sins are the result of individual acts it is just that forgiveness for them should be conditioned on individual compliance with prescribed requirements — ‘obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel,’” (Articles of Faith, p. 79).
“This grace is an enabling power that allows men and women to lay hold on eternal life and exaltation after they have expended their own best efforts,” (LDS Bible Dictionary, p. 697).
“We know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do,” (2 Nephi 25:23).
Trinity, the
The trinity is three separate Gods: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. “That these three are separate individuals, physically distinct from each other, is demonstrated by the accepted records of divine dealings with man,” (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 35).
http://www.carm.org/mormon-beliefs
The Pearl of Great Price is another distaction to Christnisty.
Mormon Scriptures: The Pearl of Great Price
The Pearl of Great Price contains the book of Moses, the book of Abraham, the Prophet Joseph Smith‘s inspired translation of Matthew chapter 24, and some writings of the Prophet Joseph.
The book of Moses is a small excerpt from Joseph Smith’s inspired translation of the Bible.
(YES, Joseph Smith has his OWN version of the Bible!)
It is a more complete record of Moses’s writings at the beginning of the book of Genesis in the Old Testament - ACCORDING TO THE MORMON WEBSITE. It contains many doctrines and teachings that were lost from the Bible and gives additional information about the plan of salvation, the creation of the earth, and the Lord’s dealings with Adam and Enoch.
No Mormonism is not Christian. ALl you have to do is go to their own website and see the problems.
Yes, Mormons might “VALUE” the Bible but they disregard it's TEACHINGS for rewritten teachings that contradict ad disagree with the Bible.
Wonder what they think on Kolob. And when is the next spaceship to Kolob. I wanna’ be on it.
He started the conversation with “Frankly” and that, 95% of the time, implies deceit.
No reason to argue with me, it’s a fact. Whenever that phrase is used their is deceit coming from the person using it and they generally like to play as if they are some sort of superior intellect.
I’ll read this later.
And just think . . . when you die, you will atone for your sins in front of Joseph Smith, Jr., and Christ, who are equal in the Mormon Church. They’ll be sitting next to each other. No, really!
Doesn't the remind you of Islam?
When a MALE dies and is a Muslim, they go to paradise and get all the VIRGINS they want.
Notice the clever wordsmithing, Mormons “value” the Bible. Sure but they DISAGREE with the BIBLE and created their own religion. It's not Christian. No matter how you want to believe that Mormonism is Christian, it is not. All you have to do is look at THEIR website.
The cute use of the word “value” highlights how deceptive Mormonism is even when “reaching out” for approval. They don't see it. They see “common ground” that they personally DO NOT see as the root of their beliefs.
Mormon Beliefs documented
Please note that these teachings are documented from Mormon writers, not anti-Mormon writers:
Book of Mormon
The book of Mormon is more correct than the Bible, (History of the Church, vol. 4, p. 461.)
Devil
The Devil was born as a spirit after Jesus “in the morning of pre-existence,” (Mormon Doctrine, p. 192.)
Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers and we were all born as siblings in heaven to them both, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163.)
God
God used to be a man on another planet (Mormon Doctrine, p. 321; Joseph Smith, Times and Seasons, vol. 5, p. 613-614; Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 345; Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 333).
“The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as mans...” (D&C 130:22).
God, becoming a god
After you become a good Mormon, you have the potential of becoming a god (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345-347, 354).
“Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from everlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be gods, because they have all power, and the angels are subject unto them,” (DC 132:20).
God, many gods
There are many gods (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163).
“And they (the Gods) said: Let there be light: and there was light,” (Book of Abraham 4:3).
God, mother goddess
There is a mother god (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 443).
God is married to his goddess wife and has spirit children (Mormon Doctrine, p. 516).
God, Trinity
The trinity is three separate Gods: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. “That these three are separate individuals, physically distinct from each other, is demonstrated by the accepted records of divine dealings with man,” (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 35).
Heaven
There are three levels of heaven: telestial, terrestrial, and celestial (Mormon Doctrine, p. 348).
Holy Ghost, the
The Holy Ghost is a male personage (A Marvelous Work and a Wonder, Le Grand Richards, Salt Lake City, 1956, p. 118; Journal of Discources, vol. 5, p. 179).
Jesus
“Therefore we know that both the Father and the Son are in form and stature perfect men; each of them possesses a tangible body . . . of flesh and bones,” (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 38).
“The birth of the Saviour was as natural as are the births of our children; it was the result of natural action. He partook of flesh and blood - was begotten of his Father, as we were of our fathers,” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 8, p. 115).
“Elohim is literally the Father of the spirit of Jesus Christ and also of the body in which Jesus Christ performed His mission in the flesh ...” (First Presidency and Council of the Twelve, 1916, God the Father, compiled by Gordon Allred, p. 150).
Joseph Smith
If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation. There is no salvation [the context is the full gospel including exaltation to Godhood] outside the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon Doctrine, p. 670).
Pre-existence
We were first begotten as spirit children in heaven and then born naturally on earth (Journal of Discourse, vol. 4, p. 218).
The first spirit to be born in heaven was Jesus (Mormon Doctrine, p. 129).
The Devil was born as a spirit after Jesus “in the morning of pre-existence,” (Mormon Doctrine, p. 192).
Salvation
“One of the most fallacious doctrines originated by Satan and propounded by man is that man is saved alone by the grace of God; that belief in Jesus Christ alone is all that is needed for salvation,” (Miracle of Forgiveness, by Spencer W. Kimball, p. 206).
A plan of salvation was needed for the people of earth so Jesus offered a plan to the Father and Satan offered a plan to the father but Jesus’ plan was accepted. In effect the Devil wanted to be the Savior of all Mankind and to “deny men their agency and to dethrone god,” (Mormon Doctrine, p. 193; Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 8).
Jesus’ sacrifice was not able to cleanse us from all our sins, (murder and repeated adultery are exceptions), (Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, 1856, p. 247).
Good works are necessary for salvation (Articles of Faith, p. 92).
There is no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of God (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p. 188).
“The first effect [of the atonement] is to secure to all mankind alike, exemption from the penalty of the fall, thus providing a plan of General Salvation. The second effect is to open a way for Individual Salvation whereby mankind may secure remission of personal sins (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 78-79).
“As these sins are the result of individual acts it is just that forgiveness for them should be conditioned on individual compliance with prescribed requirements — ‘obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel,’” (Articles of Faith, p. 79).
“This grace is an enabling power that allows men and women to lay hold on eternal life and exaltation after they have expended their own best efforts,” (LDS Bible Dictionary, p. 697).
“We know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do,” (2 Nephi 25:23).
Trinity, the
The trinity is three separate Gods: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. “That these three are separate individuals, physically distinct from each other, is demonstrated by the accepted records of divine dealings with man,” (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 35).
http://www.carm.org/mormon-beliefs
It just goes on and on and on.
Mormonism has nothing in common with Bible based Christianity. Mormonism is that of another gospel trying to appear "Christian" and miserably failing.
.....so much that they add a bunch more to it.
When Jesus plainly told His disciples that it wasn't up to Him who would sit by Him but that was God the Father who would choose.
“When Jesus plainly told His disciples that it wasn’t up to Him who would sit by Him but that was God the Father who would choose.”
Oh, I missed that! I clearly read that Joseph Smith, Jr., WILL be sitting in judgement next to Christ when we die. That’s in the Mormon religion . . . not mine.
Just like many Christians use Paul alone as a filter.
Mormonism doesn't derive much of its teachings from the Bible
Neither does Christianity. Mormonism is to Christianity, what Christianity is to Judaism. Two false interpretations of the real thing.
How do you value a book you claim is not translated correctly?
In the REAL world it is called SPIN!
And old concept; going WAY back:
"Did GOD really say...?"
Source?
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