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The Amish come to Israel, ask Jews for forgiveness
Israel Today ^

Posted on 12/01/2010 2:24:01 PM PST by Amerisrael

In a seemingly unprecedented move, a group of Amish Christians from the US made widespread use of modern technology - including airplanes, tour buses and even iPhones - in order to come to Israel and apologize to the Jews.

The Amish are most notable to outsiders for their shunning of the technological conveniences that have made life so fast-paced for everyone else. But they did not shy away from using whatever means necessary to accomplish what they viewed as the vitally important task of making things right between their community and Israel.

The Amish, both in the US and Europe, have a long history of anti-Semitism and have traditionally been firm proponents of Replacement Theology, which claims that God cast aside the Jews for their widespread rejection of Jesus as their messiah. Many Amish once believed the Nazi Holocaust was God’s punishment for that rejection of Jesus, and actually applauded Hitler.

“We are here to say we are sorry,” group leader Ben Girod told Israel’s Channel 2 News as the group visited the Western Wall in Jerusalem. “God reminded me that this is not who He is. We no longer want to reject you or look at you as not being God’s people. You were God’s people long before we were.”

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: amish; faithandphilosophy; israel; replacement; replacementtheology; theology
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To: Ramius
I don’t think one need assume they are dabbling in dispensationalism in order to recognize that they were wrong to be antisemitic. It’s not an atonement, it’s an apology.

The article uses the pejorative term "replacement theology" to describe traditional Christian beliefs. That is dispensationalist.

Anti-Semitism and NAZI sympathies are represented as the consequence of traditional Christianity. Atonement is a form of reconciliation after an offense. The Amish group is seeks atonement for Anti-Semitism and NAZI sympathies by rejecting traditional Christian beliefs.

41 posted on 12/01/2010 6:04:15 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: Amerisrael; mas cerveza por favor
Note there's no real information in this article as to who these folks are, how many there were, whether they have the approval of their bishop(s). “... on behalf of the entire Amish community.” Probably overstated. It's questionable whether the picture is real wrt this group, since Amish women do not usually wear clothing in any color other than black. But Amish on a plane makes for good headlines. Why not just head down to their local synagogue/temple in buggies?

Probably the Hagee/CUFI (pronounced “goofy”) folks put them up to it.

42 posted on 12/01/2010 6:15:30 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: mas cerveza por favor
The article uses the pejorative term "replacement theology" to describe traditional Christian beliefs. That is dispensationalist.

One has to wonder where “Ryan Jones” came up with that one?

43 posted on 12/01/2010 6:17:07 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: SandyInSeattle

It really was a nice thing to do...


44 posted on 12/01/2010 7:55:40 PM PST by GOPJ ('Power abdicates only under the stress of counter-power." Martin Buber /a Tea-nami's coming..)
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To: Amerisrael

“Many Amish once believed the Nazi Holocaust was God’s punishment for that rejection of Jesus, and actually applauded Hitler.”

Really?


45 posted on 12/01/2010 8:19:40 PM PST by vladimir998 (The anti-Catholic will now evade or lie. Watch.)
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks Amerisrael!
In a seemingly unprecedented move, a group of Amish Christians from the US made widespread use of modern technology -- including airplanes, tour buses and even iPhones -- in order to come to Israel and apologize to the Jews... The Amish, both in the US and Europe, have a long history of anti-Semitism and have traditionally been firm proponents of Replacement Theology, which claims that God cast aside the Jews for their widespread rejection of Jesus as their messiah. Many Amish once believed the Nazi Holocaust was God's punishment for that rejection of Jesus, and actually applauded Hitler. "We are here to say we are sorry," group leader Ben Girod told Israel’s Channel 2 News as the group visited the Western Wall in Jerusalem. "God reminded me that this is not who He is. We no longer want to reject you or look at you as not being God's people. You were God's people long before we were."

46 posted on 12/01/2010 8:49:27 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: bareford101; Westbrook; SandyInSeattle; The Great RJ; GiovannaNicoletta; GOPJ; Amerisrael; ...

Thanks!


47 posted on 12/01/2010 9:00:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Westbrook

I have some Amish made Cherry wood bar stools. Not for drinking, my island in the kitchen bar.


48 posted on 12/01/2010 9:05:33 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Where is our military?)
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To: SunkenCiv

It is my privilege to respond to such faith! Biblically I believe that this land belongs to the Jews, and the country stands as an example of how God is patient and faithful to a very unfaithful people.....kind of like us.


49 posted on 12/01/2010 9:28:06 PM PST by bareford101 (For me, there is no difference in a tolerant, open mind and a cess pool. Both are open to filth.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

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50 posted on 12/02/2010 6:06:43 AM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: Amerisrael; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; ...

BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.
BLESSED BE THE WORD OF THE LORD.
BLESSED BE THE WAYS OF THE LORD.

PRAISE GOD! PRAISE GOD! PRAISE GOD!

Now, if the Amish could just educate the Amils, Preterists, Postmils, REPLACEMENTARIANS in the Christian world, they’d really be miracle workers.


51 posted on 12/02/2010 6:12:21 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

INDEED.


52 posted on 12/02/2010 6:13:28 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

The months left for waking up from such a grossly UNBiblical perspective as you assert

are diminishing rapidly.


53 posted on 12/02/2010 6:15:43 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Mr. Lucky

Nor does he.


Indeed.

Sometimes, one feels a bit that . . . if some folks could actually READ THE BIBLE . . . given that they seem incapable of doing so . . . then they’d be a LOT more responsible and guilty of ignoring and violating The Scriptures truths.


54 posted on 12/02/2010 6:17:24 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

God is not impressed favorably

at all

by REPLACEMENTARIANS such as y’all

who essentially functionally call God a liar

about HIS

EVERLASTING PROMISES TO THE BLOOD CHILDREN OF JACOB.


55 posted on 12/02/2010 6:19:12 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

The word TRINITY is not in the New Testament either.

REPLACEMENT hogwash is still the most apt term for the stinking pile of lies it represents.


56 posted on 12/02/2010 6:20:12 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

REPLACEMENTARIANS FAITHFULLY PROVIDE ABUNDANDLY

Great examples of Biblical ignorance gone to seed.


57 posted on 12/02/2010 6:21:09 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

I increasingly agree with you about

CINO’s and REPLACEMENTARIANISM.

I’m increasingly skeptical that one can be a passionate REPLACEMENTARIANISM and remain an authentic Christian.


58 posted on 12/02/2010 6:22:25 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

We have repeatedly documented that

that assertion is thoroughly false.

Darby was a Johnny Come Lately

to the Biblical truths about Israel, the END TIMES and dispensations.

Continue to proffer falsehoods about such truths at your own risk.


59 posted on 12/02/2010 6:23:32 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: bareford101

WELL PUT.


60 posted on 12/02/2010 6:24:46 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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