Posted on 01/03/2011 9:50:11 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother. 11 For this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we should love one another, 12 not as Cain who was of the wicked one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his works were evil and his brothers righteous.( I John 2:10-12)
Cain and Abel were brothers. Both of them were strict Monotheistic worshippers also. But that is where the similarity ended.
Abel worshipped the One True God on Gods terms,bringing a blood sacrifice to the altar of Gods choosing. In that worship was a simple confession, I am a sinner deserving of death, please accept me on the basis of this substitute, an innocent lamb, who has died in my place. We are told that the Holy God accepted this offering, bringing Abel into communion.
Cain was also a monotheistic worshipper of the one God, but refused to bring an offering of substitutionary death. His worship also was a statement, by bringing the fruit of the ground, he was in effect saying, I bring you this, the fruit of my works that you have blessed. He saw no need to come to God via a vicarious offering, his works were good enough! But God manifestly rejected his worship.
Consequently, He slew his own brother, Abel, who had come to Gods altar by blood in the God appointed way. Both worshippers made a blood sacrifice, for Cain , who refused to come to God by a substitute, sacrificed Abel to his own rage.
Fast forward from Genesis 4, to New Years morning, 2011, Egypt. Cains spiritual heirs set a car bomb outside of a Coptic church, killing dozens and wounding hundreds, who were merely worshipping the one true God, through Jesus Christ the Lamb of God, who offered himself as a sacrifice for sinners.
As the worshippers left the church service, the modern-day Cains set off the bomb on men, women and children, in an act of cowardly ,wanton slaughter. We will again be lectured by the modern-day apologists for Cains religion, that it is of course a religion of peace, and that proponents of Abels religion also have done atrocities.
False religion has consequences, there will always be a sacrifice. God has appointed a way to come unto himself for sinners. Jesus said, I am the way, the truth and the Life, and no one can come to the Father but by me.
But if not through the One who loved us and gave himself for us, the Cains of our world concoct other unwilling human sacrifices. Abortion is the secular equivalent, and in the case of the religion of peace, Heaven is attained by slaughtering without mercy the infidels. In other words, someone has to pay the price.
Cain killed his brother, because of His brothers goodness. Abel did no harm, but his witness convicted Cain. The modern religion of Cain cannot abide any trace of Christianity in its once christian majority lands.What were the worshippers in Egypt doing to hurt anyone? Their worship of Jesus Christ, the God appointed sacrifice un- nerves the practitioners of Cains religion to the point of murderous frenzy.
Dhimminitude, jizya tax, oppression that is deliberately humiliating, and in the case of events like this New Years day mass murder, are all considered by Cains spiritual heirs, to be legitimate expressions of their religion. Cain cant stand the free expression of Abels religion, it disturbs his uneasy conscience.
The modern followers of Cain also have an uneasy conscience. They are already blaming the Jews for the murder that they perpetrated in Egypt, now that the light of world disapproval shines on it.
This is because though their religion calls for such murder, and their supreme prophet, a pirate, murderer and rapist,(A true son of Cain if there ever was one) acted that way, they still have a conscience, and possibly can be saved. Lets pray for them this year.
Who writes this junk?
Cain worked the fields, that is where his ‘work’ and sacrifice came from. Abel tended the flocks and that is where his sacrifice came from.
Genesis 4
6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?
7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door.
Did Cain sin because he didn't offer the best, because his faith and or love was weak, and he offered what he 'wanted' to, instead of what he should have? Because he chose to please himself, instead of pleasing YHWH?
I’m still trying to figure out how Cain knew to take off for the Land of Nod to find a wife. Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel. Where did these people in the Land of Nod come from? That has bugged me for 50 years.
Possibly neanderthals?
According to my understanding of literal Bible belief, Adam and Eve were the first and only two people on Earth. They had two sons, Cain and Abel.
So how could Cain go to some other land and find a woman old enough to marry? That indicates there was another colony nearby.
Neadenthals are certainly possible, but that seems to foul up the Bible story as it has always been presented.
God promises the descendants of Israel who, through captivity, exile, and intermarriage with Gentiles became assimilated and inculturated Gentiles today that they will find "grace in the wilderness".
The exile mentioned in Isaiah
From the JPS (1917) Jewish Bible Tanakh Their exile was their atonement.
8 In full measure, when Thou sendest her away, Thou dost contend with her; He hath removed her with His rough blast in the day of the east wind.
9 Therefore by this shall the iniquity of Jacob be expiated, and this is all the fruit of taking away his sin: when he maketh all the stones of the altar as chalkstones that are beaten in pieces, so that the Asherim and the sun-images shall rise no more.
NO BLOOD WAS SHED
Not entirely correct.
Don;t forget Seth. Also, Scripture mentions that Adam had other sons and daughters before he died at the age of 930. It is possible that Cain took a sister as wife.
Hebrews is wrong. Leviticus 17:11 does not say that the ONLY means of forgiveness is the shedding of blood. It says dont eat blood. The only purpose of blood is atonement....it is not a food to eat.
There are many non-blood means of atonement in the OT (Tanach)
You are correct. Ishmael is a better comparison. Actaully, Islamists sem to be a composite of Ishamael, Esau and Ham.
I suppose you have heard of Ishmael?
But, wouldn't the sister be living in the same household and not in a different town/land?
r9eth- You may disagree with me, but how about letting me know what point you disagree with, I am more than willing to hold intelligent discussion. BTW what is an orbitologist?
Also, I believe Islam is a hybrid of Cain,Ishmael, Esau, etc..
My point, Cain was a monotheistic worshipper who rejected blood sacrafice, was into a religion of works righteousness, and ended up making a blood sacrifice anyway, not unto God , but unto his own rage- an ideal prototype Muslim! Abel represents true belief in the true God, worshipping by sacrifice, admitting his own desert of death(the wages of sin is death) and coming to God by a vlood offering-
Perhaps. There are a lot of details that are not included in the Genesis account. We don't know how they functioned as a family.
You are so full of it. Can and Abel BOTH were supposed to bring the best of their work/fruits as a sacrifice. Not all sacrifices were blood. Some were grain. But, they BOTH were to bring forth their best.
Yeah right. An unmarried daughter would be sent to live in some other town! lol A son, maybe, might go off on his own, but, a daughter? c'mon
Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins”
See post #8
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