Posted on 06/30/2011 12:33:48 PM PDT by Colofornian
...The church's assets are thought to be worth more than $30 billion.
...The church reportedly receives more than $5 billion in tithes every year.
The church also has substantial real estate and for-profit business investments, managed by Deseret Management Corp. The company is one of the largest owners of farm and ranch land in the U.S. It owns the country's largest nut producer, AgReserves, Inc., the 14th largest radio chain, Bonneville International Corp...
Economic entrepreneurialism is...part of Mormon doctrine — 88 of...112 revelations received by... founder Joseph Smith deal with fiscal matters.
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The Twilight saga is actually about the Mormon belief in eternal marriage.
The Twilight series, by Mormon author Stephanie Meyers, is an allegory for the Mormon concept of "celestial marriage" - the belief that a couple that is "sealed" in a Mormon temple will stay bound together forever...
Edward and Bella's bond is sealed when Edward bites Bella. As with a Mormon marriage, there's no turning back for Bella, who is transformed into a vampire for eternity.
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The Mormon church thinks polygamy might be okay in the afterlife.
...(the official Mormon church)...still believes...the divine principle of plural marriage may apply in heaven. In the case of death or divorce, Mormon men can be sealed to another wife and all of their celestial marriages will be honored in eternity.
The LDS...tried to distance itself from...40,000 fundamentalist Mormons who still practice polygamy...
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Mormons wear special undergarments called a "temple garment"...designed to give "protection against temptation and evil."
Many Mormons believe the underwear provides spiritual protection.
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Mormons believe that when Jesus returns, he's coming to the U.S.
Mormons believe...all the...Christian churches fell into apostasy...
...Jesus will personally return to reign over a paradisaical Kingdom on earth. His headquarters will be at the...temple in Jackson County, Missouri...
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Enjoying the show bump.
Read this slowly so you will understand...
If the mormon church having the name Jesus Christ in its full name (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints ) mattered a hill of beans, then the Jehovah’s Witnesses having the name Jehovah in it would matter something, too. So it doesn’t matter when people say Mormon church instead of Church of Jesus Christ of....... In the end, who cares that the name Jesus Christ is in the denom’s full title? It doesn’t mattet squat.
The Moron Church’s founder, according to eyewitnesses at his time, was married to a woman.
Yet, while married to that woman, J. Smith was pursuing another woman who happened to be married to another man at the time Smith was pursuing her.
Trashy leader, trashy founder.
If memory serves (the number not the account), Smith ‘married’ 6 women who were still married to their legal husbands, and still lived with those husbands and even had children with them AFTER their ‘marriage’ to Smith.
The guy was a scumbag and that is being polite.
Sorry, I actually work so I am not on here much.
Best of luck to you.
As I often say having the name Jesus Christ in the name of your organization doesn’t make you a Christian any more than painting ‘auto repairs’ on the side of your garage makes you a mechanic.
But Mormons don’t get that, they are too brainwashed to see the obvious. Been there done that.
Thanks for the advice! I am fleeing! You saved me!!! Thank you!!!
It’s not too late for you! Repent and come back to the fold!
ROFL. God saved me from Mormonism and saved me by Grace alone through faith. Why would I go back to that cult?! All it does is bring legalism, lies, heresies and it worships a false God.
Knowing the Jesus of the Bible, I could no more return to the false Christ of Mormonism than I could kill or become a liberal. It would never happen.
BTW, I have repented. I repented of believing the heresies of Mormonism and blaspheming God by being LDS. And He has forgiven me.
However, there is time for you, get out of that cult and come to the Christ of the Bible, who is VERY different than the one Mormonism claims.
Make that murder rather than kill. There is a difference.
And it is ‘too late’ for me to return to Mormonism. I’ve found the real Christ and He saved me. I would never turn my back on Him which what returning to Mormonism would be.
Well I will keep praying for you. Obviously, it was hard for you to walk the walk.
Best of luck to you. Life’s hard I know, but hang in there. Try to find peace and happiness. I know its not easy when you are filled with such hate. Take care.
I teach Sunday School every week. We are studying the New Testament and I teach about the very same Jesus in the very same bible.
I know your heart aches for not being able to live the commandments. I know its hard and takes discipline. Good luck with everything. Maybe some day you will come back or at least let go of the hatred.
“Why would I go back to that cult?!”
A very dear friend of ours from church is a former Mormon. It was interesting - my wife mentioned the Mormons being a cult, and the gal told her that, as wrong as Mormonism is - she grew up with it and it somehow still hurt her to hear it called a cult. (Even though she agrees that it is!) Although she said that a better way of understanding it is not so much as a cult, but as a “culture” - permeating EVERYTHING in the community and your way of life.
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I know that if Romney wins the primary, the networks will run promotions for the movie about Mormons slaughtering settlers of yore. The slaughter promos were run during the McCain/Romney primary battle of 2008.
Romney’s being hoisted for an eventual political slaughter by the Marxist Media.
"Salvation in its true and full meaning is synonymous with exaltation or eternal life and consists in gaining an inheritance in the highest of the three heavens within the celestial kingdom… It is the salvation which the saints seek. It is of this which the Lord says, ‘There is no greater gift than the gift of salvation'. (Doctrine and Covenants [D&C] 6:13.)
This full salvation is obtained in and through the continuation of the family unit in eternity, and those who obtain it are gods. (D&C 131:1-4; 132.)
Full salvation is attained by virtue of knowledge, truth, righteousness, and all true principles. Many conditions must exist in order to make such a salvation available to men. Without the atonement, the gospel, the priesthood, and the sealing power, there would be no salvation. Without continuous revelation, the ministering of angels, the working of miracles, the prevalence of gifts of the spirit, there would be no salvation. If it had not been for Joseph Smith and restoration, there would be no salvation. There is no salvation outside The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints” (Mormon Doctrine, pp. 669-671).
At the October 2009 Latter Day Saint (Mormon) General Conference LDS “apostle” Jeffrey Holland gave a “testimony” of the Book of Mormon. He said, “I testify that one cannot come to full faith in this Latter-day work and thereby find the fullest measure of peace and comfort in these our times until he or she embraces the divinity of the Book of Mormon and the Lord Jesus Christ of whom it testifies. If anyone is foolish enough or misled enough to reject 531 pages of a heretofore unknown text, teeming with literary and Semitic complexity, without honestly attempting to account for the origin of those pages somehow–especially without accounting for their powerful witness of Jesus Christ and the profound spiritual impact that witness has had on what is now tens of millions of readers–if that’s the case then such persons, elect or otherwise, have been deceived. And if they leave this Church, they must do so by crawling over, or under, or around the Book of Mormon to make their exit.” (Jeffrey R. Holland, Oct. 4, 2009, reported in Salt Lake Tribune.)
“I am suggesting that we make exactly the same kind of do-or-die bold assertion about the restoration of the gospel of Jesus Christ [as we do of] the divine origins of the Book of Mormon. We have to. Reason and rightness require it. Accept Joseph Smith as a prophet and the book [of Mormon] as miraculously revealed and revered word of the Lord it is or else consign both man and book to Hades for the devastating deception of it all, but let’s not have any bizarre middle ground about the wonderful contours of a young boy’s imagination or his remarkable facility for turning a literary phrase. That is an unacceptable position to take…” (Jeffrey R. Holland - New Era, June 1995, p. 64).
Apostle Holland does not list actual doctrinal teachings from the BoM that would make the BoM important to the Church. He cannot, for none of the important Mormon doctrines are found in the Book of Mormon. He is just saying that it is Joseph Smith’s credibility that is in question, that if the book is not true, then Joseph Smith is a deceiver and his church a hoax.
In an August 11, 2007 feature, Book explores the life of Islam's founder - Deseret Morning News, Professor Peterson is said to be acquiring, "... a reputation for defending a faith that's not his own, but Peterson said he's OK with that role. 'I'm a very active Latter-day Saint, but I've found myself in this role of being a defender of Islam. I just think somebody has to do something'"
Anyone who proclaims the name of Jesus--even though his understanding of who that is may be far removed from the biblical Jesus--is nevertheless accepted as a brother in Christ. Conservativism, political or otherwise, is seen to be the glue of spiritual fellowship, and its characteristics have taken on scriptural status and a basis for kinship. I've been told that "Beck must be a Christian because he's all about turning our country back to its Christian roots." That's erroneous on at least two counts.
A member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints may refer to themselves as being Christian, but they're certainly not a biblical Christian. The distinction is as wide as hell is from heaven: "Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God" (cf. II Jno 9). Mormon doctrine is "another gospel" that exalts "another Jesus." Both false beliefs came out of the deceived and deceiving mind of Joseph Smith.
Secondly, "our country" doesn't have "Christian roots," even though some are claiming that our founding fathers were true Christians. Many were not biblical Christians but Christians in name only, who followed the faith of Deism, Masonry, and the philosophy of the Enlightenment. Any early influence in America's history of a biblical nature very likely came from the Pilgrims and the Puritans.
I could go on for a very long time; you would NOT like it. Do NOT ask a stupid question like that again. You will regret doing so.
I believe the actual count was ELEVEN women who were already married; can't say how many children resulted.
Are you a superstitious Mormon?
What does "luck" have to do with reality in a world run by a sovereign god? Or since you worship a god who can't be everywhere at once, is it that you have to rely upon luck and trust luck?
I know your heart aches for not being able to live the commandments. I know its hard and takes discipline.
Reaganaut, notice the almost palm-reading type of comment we see here with the pure assumptions this stranger makes about your life.
This is the typical "blame game" Mormons engage in. If you've become a Jack Mormon or an ex-Mormon, the problem they assume is that it's you (plural).
Notice how the Lds "prophet" Spencer W. Kimball did this in his book that I have -- President Kimball Speaks Out (1981, Deseret Book Company, which is owned by the Mormon church): "If you are bored at a testimony meeting, there is something the matter with you, and not with others." (Kimball, p. 22)
Ya hear that Ben? Ya hear that all Lds? If you've EVER -- even one time -- been bored at an Lds testimony meeting. Why it's NEVER been in the history of Mormonism because of some flighty Mormon(s) or over-emotional Mormons or I've-said-this-same-testimony 1,000 times Mormon or pick-your-fave-boring-testimony Mormon.
Nope, said Kimball. 'Twas you! 'Cause YOU, Mr. or Mrs. Grassroots Mormon, says the "prophet" on high, are ALWAYS the problem...says Kimball...and says this same attitude that Mormons like Ben come to show based upon Mormon leader models like Kimball!
Maybe some day you will come back or at least let go of the hatred.
More assumptions of Reaganaut.
Beyond repeating what the Bible universally says about all people, do you always go around yielding specific moral judgments involving complete strangers? Or is that something you've reserved for Reaganaut on this thread?
How is it that in 1 Samuel 16:7 it says that man only looks at the outer part, but somehow YOU are able to 100% size up Reaganaut's INNER heart when you don't even know her? Doesn't it say that ONLY God sees the inner person there? Yes?
Don't you think you owe Reaganaut an apology? Is this the way you treat non-Mormons in your community? If you were ever an Lds missionary -- or plan on becoming one, would this have been the way you treated non-Mormons during your mission? You just go around and assume they are hateful?
Can't somebody come to disagree with something without attributing an inner motive of hate to that person?
Let's give a parallel example: If a poster was a former lesbian; and commented on a thread about homosexuality, what would you think of a homosexual poster who assumed the ex-lesbian was automatically hateful just because they now spoke out vs. homosexuality?
What then, Monkey Face, do you do with the false messiahs Jesus talked about in Matthew 24? (If they show up when you're still around, are you going to say they are the same Jesus who appeared before?) The apostle Paul claimed there was another Jesus in 2 Cor. 11:3-4.
If you go back to the last 25 years of the 20th century into the beginnings of the 21st century -- per official Mormon publications -- they actually agreed with the distinction many have made on this thread that Mormons focus on a different jesus
Lds "prophet" Gordon B. Hinckley: “There are those outside the Church who say Latter-day Saints do not believe in the traditional Christ. No, I don’t. The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak.” (LDS Church News, June 20, 1998)
Hinckley again: As a Church we have critics, many of them. They say we do not believe in the traditional Christ of Christianity. There is some substance to what they say. Our faith, our knowledge is not based on ancient tradition, the creeds which came of a finite understanding and out of the almost infinite discussions of men trying to arrive at a definition of the risen Christ. Our faith, our knowledge comes of the witness of a prophet in this dispensation who saw before him the great God of the universe and His Beloved Son, the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ. ("We Look to Christ", from April 2002 General Conference.)
“It is true that many of the Christian churches worship a different Jesus Christ than is worshipped by the Mormons.” – LDS publication, Ensign Magazine, May 1977, p. 26
"And virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Lds "apostle" Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 269).
So the Mormon official publications say they worship a different Christ...
The Mormon "prophet" said they speak about, believe and acknowledge a different Christ...
Most Christians say they worship, speak of and trust another Jesus...
So. We are seemingly on the same page...except for you, Monkey Face and some probable lurkers. (Why do we have a few stragglers who are out of harmony???)
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