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Vatican officials encouraging push to stop communion for pro-abort pols
Life Site News ^ | August 5, 2011 | JOHN-HENRY WESTEN

Posted on 08/05/2011 9:28:09 AM PDT by NYer

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ROME, August 4, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Top officials at the Vatican are throwing their support behind pro-life Catholic leaders campaigning against dioceses allowing pro-abortion politicians receive Holy Communion, says one such leader.

American Life League President Judie Brown spoke with LifeSiteNews yesterday about her recent trip to Rome, where she spoke with Vatican officials about Communion for pro-abortion politicians and the changing pro-life landscape in America. 

Cardinal Raymond Burke told Brown to be “persistent” in her campaign to have Canon 915 enforced, she said.

Canon 915 states: “Those upon whom the penalty of excommunication or interdict has been imposed or declared, and others who obstinately persist in manifest grave sin, are not to be admitted to holy communion.”

Brown also noted that Burke encouraged her to make use of the numerous articles he himself has written on the subject

“He encouraged us to be persistent, to use his articles and not to back down from our position which is the same as his,” she said.  “It’s not arbitrary it’s a matter of the law of the church which needs to be enforced.” 

Cardinal Burke, she noted, spoke of applying the sanction called for in canon 915 as “therapeutic” in terms of helping people come back in line with the church.

The fact that many bishops are “not comfortable” about it, said Brown, doesn’t matter.

Brown also addressed at the meeting how intentional distortions of official Church statements have confused Catholics on the abortion issue. 

“In America, conception is defined as implantation, so when the Church makes a statement - Dignitas Personae is the most recent example - our enemies turn around and say even the Church doesn’t believe there’s life before implantation,” Brown explained to Zenit news. 

“Church officials must be clear that when the word conception is used, it means the ‘biological beginning of a person.’”

While in Rome, Brown covered a wide range of topics including America’s growing pro-life youth movement, ad hominem attacks on pro-life Catholics, and the ramifications of a “culture-of-death president.”

“Cardinal Burke is the primary example of being targeted by the media,” she told LifeSiteNews.com. “The reason for that is that he won’t back down. He tells Catholics all the time, including me, to continue to persist in the faith, and he does it.”

“We have every reason to be optimistic. But, all Catholics must stand up and be Catholic even when it’s uncomfortable,” she concluded.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: archbishopburke; cardinalburke; catholicpoliticians; catholicvoter
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1 posted on 08/05/2011 9:28:11 AM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Papabile ping.


2 posted on 08/05/2011 9:29:20 AM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

You would think this would have been the policy all along.


3 posted on 08/05/2011 9:31:00 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: NYer

I never cease to be amazed by Obama stickers on cars in church parking lots. Applicable to all denominations/religions.


4 posted on 08/05/2011 9:34:01 AM PDT by TSgt (When in the Course of human events...)
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To: NYer

About 40 years late


5 posted on 08/05/2011 9:34:53 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Just when you think the left can't get any loonier . . .)
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To: NYer

“Cardinal Raymond Burke told Brown to be “persistent” in her campaign to have Canon 915 enforced, she said.”

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While Archbishop of St. Louis, Cardinal Burke PROACTIVELY told John Kerry he would NOT be receiving Communion, if he attended Mass while on a political stop here in the Gateway City.

I’m still cheering that line in the sand.


6 posted on 08/05/2011 9:38:38 AM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: EyeGuy
While Archbishop of St. Louis, Cardinal Burke PROACTIVELY told John Kerry he would NOT be receiving Communion, if he attended Mass while on a political stop here in the Gateway City.

Which is why Kerry went to St. Cronin's where they don't pay attention to any archbishop.

7 posted on 08/05/2011 9:41:05 AM PDT by Desdemona ( If trusting the men in the clergy was a requirement for Faith, there would be no one in the pews.)
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To: NYer
How about stopping abortion at Catholic Hospitals as a good step?

http://liveaction.org/blog/catholic-hospital-in-colorado-won%e2%80%99t-fire-abortionist/

8 posted on 08/05/2011 9:42:48 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: NYer
As much as I would love to think otherwise, I don't think we can consider Cardinal Burke as papabile. I just don't see that an American has any chance (possibly a black or Hispanic American, but certainly not a white guy).

My hunch is that the next pope will be from Africa or Central/South America.

9 posted on 08/05/2011 9:45:50 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: NYer

There is no dispute about the plain meaning of Canon 915: any person who persists in grave sin in a public manner must be denied communion.

The dispute has to do with the degree of autonomy of the local ordinary. Does this Canon apply equally to the Universal Church, or can different bishops apply it differently? So, for example, can a certain member of the US House of Representatives from San Francisco receive communion in San Francisco, but be denied communion in Washington, D.C.?


10 posted on 08/05/2011 9:50:02 AM PDT by Remole
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To: NYer

It certainly sounds promising, but I’m afraid about 35 years too late.


11 posted on 08/05/2011 9:54:48 AM PDT by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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To: NYer

What I wanna know is, why isn’t a potential bishop asked about how they would handle this issue before they’re appointed?


12 posted on 08/05/2011 9:59:11 AM PDT by StonyMan451 (As for me and my household, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: wagglebee

They made similar predictions before Ratzinger was elected.


13 posted on 08/05/2011 10:11:44 AM PDT by I-ambush (I didn't think, I never dreamed, that I would be around to see it all come true-McCartney and Wings)
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To: I-ambush
They made similar predictions before Ratzinger was elected.

They made the prediction about the next pope probably coming from Africa, Central or South America, I don't recall anyone discounting the possibility of another European.

14 posted on 08/05/2011 10:39:04 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: NYer

May Church Teaching be CLEAR, STRONG and full of the joy that truth inevitably brings! May it guide us to repentance, humility and deeper faith.

;-))))


15 posted on 08/05/2011 11:00:23 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: NYer
Bishops have denied communion before
16 posted on 08/05/2011 11:56:53 AM PDT by Coleus (Adult Stem Cells Work, there is NO Need to Harvest Babies for Their Body Parts!)
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To: mad_as_he$$; Judith Anne; Cronos; MarkBsnr
"How about stopping abortion at Catholic Hospitals as a good step?"

Are you taking this position as a faux-Catholic? Maybe you should read what you link before stepping in it again. No abortions are performed at that hospital. Dr. Richard Grossman, who is a part time worker at the Catholic hospital (one day per week) performs abortions on his own time.

Now that you have shot your mouth off again why don't you tell us what you personally have done to stop the scourge of abortion. Have you petitioned politicians, counseled expectant mothers, financially contributed to Pro-Life organizations, protested or blockaded clinics and providers?

Don't bother actually answering, no one will believe you anyway. I'll bet your only involvement is to anonymously slander the Church over this issue from the safety and security of your mom's basement.

17 posted on 08/05/2011 1:00:41 PM PDT by Natural Law (For God so loved the world He did not send a book.)
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To: Natural Law
Ah the old “He didn't do his sin here defense.” Doesn't hold water. Do you think maybe it is just possible that he found his patients in the hospital? Naw that couldn't happen.

How about this one?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2757208/posts

Why do you ping all you minions every post to me?

Are you lonely or is it you can't fight your own battles.

Remember I didn't start the lying and name calling. The CC did.

If you don't care what I say why are you following me around FR? The original post here wasn't to any of your posse.

Stop harassing me!

18 posted on 08/05/2011 1:44:35 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$; Natural Law; Cronos; MarkBsnr

Stop harassing you? After what you have recently done on Catholic Caucus posts to a Catholic n00b? And insisting that you are an “active Catholic”?

What’s the matter, can’t your fellow “active Catholics” post to you?


19 posted on 08/05/2011 2:06:48 PM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
"why are you following me around FR?"

I'm not following you, but like the old saying goes some substances attract flies.

"Stop harassing me!"

LOL. Don't flatter yourself. This isn't about you. I am an equal opportunity poster. If you would research my posting history you will find me often responding to those who lie about the Church. Like another old saying goes, if you don't want people talking about it, don't do it.

20 posted on 08/05/2011 2:18:29 PM PDT by Natural Law (For God so loved the world He did not send a book.)
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