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Exciting New Archaeological Evidence Uncovered Could be the Site of Biblical Sodom
Breaking Christian News ^ | December 12, 2011 | Brian Nixon

Posted on 12/14/2011 4:03:27 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta

"It may be too early to say, but initial evidence points towards a large-scale destruction from a catastrophic event. I say this because, in that area, the skeletal remains were traumatized by an east-to-west directional event, demonstrating that the catastrophe came from a particular compass point." –Dr. Collins

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Dr. Collins and his team began digging at a new site [last year], Tall el-Hammam, which corresponded to several factors. Dr. Collins summarized the end result: "To start with, the Tall el-Hammam site has twenty-five geographical indicators that align with the description in Genesis. Compare this with something well known—like Jerusalem—that has only sixteen. Other sites have only five or six. So this site has a greater number of indicators than any other Old Testament site. That is truly amazing.

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"It began three years ago when we found some skeletal remains. Like many archaeological sites, we didn't mention the find publicly because of the potential problems involved with such remains. However, with these recent finds, we had to say something because it was so monumental."

(Excerpt) Read more at breakingchristiannews.com ...


TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: babedhdhra; catastrophism; citiesoftheplain; deadsea; godsgravesglyphs; gomorrah; greatriftvalley; jordan; sodom; sodomandgomorrah; stevencollins; tallelhammam; tellelhammam; valleyofsiddim
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
It better not be too far from Lot's wife.
ML/NJ
21 posted on 12/14/2011 4:53:36 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: gop4lyf

I keep hearing that version too.

Yes - “treated poorly”

They were demanding the angels be handed over to them for certain purposes.

Don’t you love how liberals water down the language?


22 posted on 12/14/2011 4:57:39 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Interesting, but not as compelling as this film:
http://www.arkdiscovery.com/sodom_&_gomorrah.htm


23 posted on 12/14/2011 5:02:01 PM PST by Dogbert41 (Israel is real:))
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To: Clay Moore

The story has new meaning for me ever since my Mom, driving West on 66 near Washington, turned back to look upon the Wicked City.

She didn’t turn into a pillar of salt, she turned into a phone pole. But in any case she completely wrecked our 1969 Mercury Marquis convertible.


24 posted on 12/14/2011 5:05:33 PM PST by golux
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To: CrazyIvan; Clay Moore
Any pillar of salt found outside of town?/i>

The Sumerian word for salt also described the vapor rising from the salt marshes. She was turned into a pillar of vapor makes more sense.

Lots of the Bible has misleading statements like this due to translation errors.

25 posted on 12/14/2011 5:07:08 PM PST by Oatka (This is the USA, assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Just another Joe

“There are probably a number of sites that would be marked as an event that people suffered horrible deaths.

Until they find something that definitively marks this site as Sodom we just don’t know.”
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True, but this is an impressive start:

“”To start with, the Tall el-Hammam site has twenty-five geographical indicators that align with the description in Genesis.

Compare this with something well known—like Jerusalem—that has only sixteen. Other sites have only five or six. So this site has a greater number of indicators than any other Old Testament site”

http://www.assistnews.net/Stories/2011/s11120037.htm


26 posted on 12/14/2011 5:24:21 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

It would be interesting if they can verify that is the site and what destroyed it...


27 posted on 12/14/2011 5:36:24 PM PST by goat granny
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To: CrazyIvan
Any pillar of salt found outside of town?

In my younger days (in the 50s) I read a story in Saturday Evening Post or similar in the dentist's waiting room. The archaeologists were headed into town late in the day after excavations somewhere around the Dead Sea. During their explorations that week they had found a beautiful life sized white statue of a woman and had loaded her into the back of their pickup truck. They found a place to eat & while they were occupied there, a heavy rainstorm came up. After it was over, they went back out & found that their statue was gone.

28 posted on 12/14/2011 5:41:46 PM PST by Western Phil
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To: Oatka
The Sumerian word for salt also described the vapor rising from the salt marshes. She was turned into a pillar of vapor makes more sense.

Very interesting. I still remember the illustration of the pillar of salt in the Sunday school book I had as a child. Of course they were a little vague about why the city was so evil also!

29 posted on 12/14/2011 5:44:36 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: CrazyIvan

Anyone remember the SciFi short story about two guys stealing a statue, seemingly made of alabaster, which they were transporting in the back of a lorry with a canvas top? The statue was of a young woman, vaguely Mediterranean or Semitic in appearance, who was looking back over her left shoulder in apprehension & sorrow. As they drove on through the rain that night they discussed who the sculptor might be, what the status was worth and the best way to “fence” it.

When they stopped the next morning and cheeked the back of the lorry, the statue was completely gone. The tailgate was still latched. All that was left was about 6 inches of water sloshing in the truck bed, having leaked through the ragged canvas tarp. For some unknown reason, the driver stuck his finger in the water and then into his mouth....SALTY!


30 posted on 12/14/2011 6:16:02 PM PST by BwanaNdege (“Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address” - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: Western Phil

Cool story, I’m going to try to find that online.


31 posted on 12/14/2011 6:18:31 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks GiovannaNicoletta! I was going to post something about this today (or look for prior topics) after viewing a YouTube iteration of a short piece about this. I hooked up my disk player to broadband, and have been watching free streams for the past week.

Steven Collins ignores the fact that the Vale of Siddim, where the Cities of the Plain (or as he notes, "kirkar") were located is described in Genesis as "that is, the Salt Sea", because the terrain where the cities had been is now under the Dead Sea. He's correct in his rejection of the southern locations proposed in the 1930s, but he tries to find the sites on dry land, which is the same mistake made back then.

He's also, most amusingly, finding that the strata have nothing intervening to cover a 600 year long gap -- not surprisingly, the same figure that Velikovsky points out as having made it into the conventional pseudochronology.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


32 posted on 12/14/2011 6:19:49 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; ...

Thanks GiovannaNicoletta. Beside the obvious catastrophism relationship, this is also one of *those* topics! :') Check out the related YouTube video.




33 posted on 12/14/2011 6:19:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: Western Phil

See my post #30. It looks like I have the details wrong, but I, too, remember that story.


34 posted on 12/14/2011 6:20:53 PM PST by BwanaNdege (“Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address” - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: BwanaNdege

I remember reading that story but don’t have a clue WHERE I read it or even when.

I just remember thinking that it was a great twist to the story.


35 posted on 12/14/2011 6:33:33 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Oatka
The Sumerian word for salt also described the vapor rising from the salt marshes. She was turned into a pillar of vapor makes more sense.

Lots of the Bible has misleading statements like this due to translation errors.

Well, perhaps you ought to reference it because the Hebrew says *salt* as in the white powdery stuff.

http://concordances.org/hebrew/4417.htm

If you're going to make authoritative statements about Scripture, you really ought to research them and back them up before you go attributing error to Scripture.

36 posted on 12/14/2011 6:42:22 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: BwanaNdege

Your version may be closer to the original, but my memory associates reading it with the dental office & he didn’t have science fiction magazines. My brother had those. Would be interesting if the story is still to be found.


37 posted on 12/14/2011 7:17:54 PM PST by Western Phil
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38 posted on 12/14/2011 8:26:42 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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tall el hammam:
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tall el hammam images:
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39 posted on 12/14/2011 8:37:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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from Immanuel Velikovsky:
40 posted on 12/14/2011 8:51:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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