Posted on 12/15/2011 9:21:17 AM PST by Alex Murphy
Thomas Nast, whose antislavery political cartoons propelled him to notoriety in the 19th century, has ignited another uproar: whether his anti-Irish and -Catholic drawings should disqualify him from the New Jersey Hall of Fame.
Irish and Catholic groups are waging a campaign against including the father of the American political cartoon in that group of notable New Jerseyans, arguing that he routinely depicted them in an unfavorable light.
(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...
What the Irish Roman Catholic Children will be told to do next: "Kick it out Peaceably."
(The controversy in 1872 was teaching of Protestant religion in public schools, to which
Catholics objected. Nast's frequent attacks on the Catholic Church in general and his
depictions of the Irish as ape-like brutes made him understandably unpopular in their circles)
-- from The Weekly Storybook, March 14 2010 entry
And Washington had slaves.
Give me a break.
Nast was an important figure. “Famous” doesn’t mean “good”.
where\who do I sue ?
Ya gotta love historical revisionists!! No wonder that most people have no clue what America is about or where we all came from.
But, here’s a question for the revisionists: If those from the past could be brought into contemporary America, how do you think we would fare against THEIR standards??
Nast gave the GOP its elephant mascot and popularized Santa Claus.
To be fair, the Irish immigrants of the mid 19th century had many of the same social problems as today’s “minority” underclasses.
This was a time when Americans were not in the least affected by PC and had no qualms about openly expressing their dislike of certain groups. Some of the dislike of the Irish was justified and some was not.
Excellent article about how the Irish turned themselves around in just a few decades.
http://www.city-journal.org/html/7_2_a2.html
http://www.city-journal.org/html/7_2_a2.html
A hundred years ago and more, Manhattan’s tens of thousands of Irish seemed a lost community, mired in poverty and ignorance, destroying themselves through drink, idleness, violence, criminality, and illegitimacy. What made the Irish such miscreants? Their neighbors weren’t sure: perhaps because they were an inferior race, many suggested; you could see it in the shape of their heads, writers and cartoonists often emphasized. In any event, they were surely incorrigible....Ping to read later.....a clergyman was the catalyst for the cultural change that liberated New York’s Irish from their underclass behavior. He was John Joseph Hughes, an Irish immigrant gardener who became the first Catholic archbishop of New York. How he accomplished his task can teach us volumes about the solution to our own end-of-the-millennium social problems.
“All right, we’ll give some land to the ni@@ers and the chinks. But we don’t want the Irish!”
- Olson Johnson, Blazing Saddles
“There came to these shores a poor exile of Erin,
“The dew on his wet robe hung heavy and chill.
“Ere the steamer that brought him had passed out of hearin’,
“He was Alderman Mike inthrojuicin’ a bill.”
If you have to be perfect to get into the Hall of Fame, it will be empty.
I was just thinging the same thing!!!! as a matter of fact, whenever I see a black and an oriental together ( on tv or in real life ) i start to laugh, and my wife just gives me a disgusting look.....
It is here in the present that Thomas Nast is being proposed for the Hall of Fame. Why are only white Christian ethnic groups supposed to accept insult?
He immediately stirred up a war over the city’s schools, then run by the Public School Society. Though the society received state funding, it was essentially a private Protestant organization that taught Protestantism and used the Prot-estant Bible. Worse, from Hughes’s point of view, it had pupils read such books as The Irish Heart, which taught that “the emigration from Ireland to America of annually increasing numbers, extremely needy, and in many cases drunken and depraved, has become a subject for all our grave and fearful reflection.” Hughes (with the support of New York’s 12,000 Jews) wanted an end to such sectarian education, and he wanted, above all, state aid for Catholic schools, just as the state had funded denominational schools before 1826 (with no one dreaming of calling such aid unconstitutional). The outcome of the struggle pleased no one: the Maclay Bill of 1842 barred all religious instruction from public schools and provided no state money to denominational schools.So Archbishop John Joseph Hughes was responsible for the secularization of the public school system. He also appears to be the subject of Nast's political cartoon in post #1.
***This was a time when Americans were not in the least affected by PC and had no qualms about openly expressing their dislike of certain groups.****
They should read Mark Twain’s LIBRARY OF WIT AND HUMOR. The Ethnic joke section!
I'm curious which part of this statement Hughes would have objected to. In and of itself it seems to be just a statement of fact.
Unpleasant facts, to be sure.
You should see his anti American-Indian cartoons!
But it would have been entirely fitting, had it been.
Actually the 1870 Ecumenical council, Vatican I, was a success. It was not until the 1962 council of Vatican II that we got run over by a steam engine.
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