Last Temptation of Castro: Get Religion [To be Received Back into Church During Papal Visit]

Cranmer ^ | 2/4/12

[boatbums]

You’re avoiding my questions weather you believe Jesus is God and whether you believe eve had sex with satan and produced cain Your non answers show everyone your beliefs that you believe that eve had sex with satan and deny Jesus is God

No. She probably is doing what I just did, looking up the preposterous theory since I had NEVER even heard of it before now. What a wild and crazy thought! Anyone else interested in what Stfassisi is talking about can go to http://kpprobst.blogspot.com/2011/05/did-eve-have-sexual-relations-with.html. It states:

There exists a fascinating theory about Eve and her offspring referred to as the "bloodline" or "serpent seed" theory. The theory, in a nutshell, goes something like this: Eve was tempted by Satan to eat of the tree of knowledge. The forbidden knowledge was in regard to human sexuality. When Eve ate of the tree her "eyes were opened" and she shared her new knowledge of sex with Adam. After acquiring this knowledge Adam and Eve became sexually active and began to produce children.

The theory states that Satan appeared to Eve as an angel of light. Perhaps he was masquerading as Christ himself. Now that Eve had a carnal knowledge of sex she was easily seduced into having sexual relations with Satan. At this point proponents of this theory would inject the phenomenal modern discovery of "twinning". A woman can become pregnant with twins fathered by two separate men. In a very rare occurrence a woman can have sexual relations with a male and then three or four days later have a sexual experience with another male. The 'twins' within her womb are fathered by two separate men.

This phenomenon, applied to Even would enable her to give birth to twins. Cain and Abel could have different fathers. Eve, seduced by the "angel of light", conceived Cain with Satan and then she had relations with Adam and conceived Abel. Those descendants of Cain have had to shoulder much of what has ever been wrong in our world.

Hitler embraced a theology that included the idea that the world had to be cleansed of the "serpent seed". There would be no Golden Age for mankind if these Satanic descendants were not eliminated. It seems Hitler arbitrarily assigned Jews and blacks as "serpent seed" and developed a system to eliminate masses of Jewish people in an attempt to 'purify' the Aryan race. Could this idea once again prime the pump of hatred in the final days by associating Christians or those who reject the mark of the beast with the "serpent seed" that must be eliminated?

The Bible clearly teaches that a person's relationship with God is determined by the spiritual state of a person, not their genealogy. Genesis 4:1 reveals that Cain was a result of a union between Adam and Eve and Satan had no part of it. "And Adam knew (had sexual relations with) Eve his wife; and she conceived (this was a result of their relations), and bare (gave birth to) Cain." 1 John 3:12 identifies Cain as being "of that wicked one (Satan)". Cain belonged to the 'wicked one', not because of his bloodline but because of his disobedience. His problem was spiritual, not genetic.

"And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat." (Genesis 3:6) Satan wasn't tempting her with sex. The serpent wasn't offering himself as a temptation. Eve would fall into sin in the same manner Lucifer fell. She chose to reject the authority of God and attempted to be a god unto herself. It is still the common temptation of our modern age. Rather than submit to God men attempt to set themselves up to be their own god. Eve's temptation was for mental superiority, not sexual pleasure.

The "Serpent Seed" theory is a weak attempt to divert our attention from the real truth. If we could somehow connect our sin to genetics we might eliminate our personal accountability for sin. There is a strong movement in our culture today to blame sin on genetics. Jeremiah said that "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" (17:9) Paul wrote to the Romans, "…all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." (3:23) Each and every man, regardless of his bloodline, needs to repent of his sin and receive the saving grace of God.

At best, the "Serpent Seed" theory has no scriptural proof, it is simply one of the wild imaginations of men's hearts. At worst, it is a twisting of the truth found in God's word. We must be very careful when treading these waters because God warns us in Revelation 22:18 "If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book…"

[Lera]

Open your eyes woman . I showed you scriptures that prove exactly who Jesus was . I showed you scriptures that prove the trinity . I didn’t need a lick of catholic doctrine or dogma to prove either .

Why are you starting a rumor that Eve had sex with satan ?
I see that you have no better argument so you try to slander and discredit me . Get a clue I don’t care .

See even Caiaphas who did not believe spoke prophetically about Jesus .
Joh 18:14 Now Caiaphas was he, which gave counsel to the Jews, that it was expedient that one man should die for the people.
(BTW the Jews had lost the ability to pass any death sentence , it was the Romans who actually put him to death )

So tell me why you don’t believe it was a gift to the people but you claim to be a Christian ?

[Marguerite]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2123853/posts

Re: Nazi fabricated "quotes" on the Talmud

http://www.angelfire.com/mt/talmud/

Talmud: The Real Truth About The Talmud

"There are many lies circulating the internet about the Jewish Talmud. These allegations are supported by "direct quotations" from the Talmud that are frequently wrong or taken out of context. However, most people lack the scholarly background to verify these claims. Most people have no way of knowing that these accusation are false and malicious. What we are attempting is to demonstrate in detail how these accusations are both wrong and intentionally misleading. We are trying to show to the world the real truth about the Talmud."

[stfassisi]

Why are you starting a rumor that Eve had sex with satan ? I see that you have no better argument so you try to slander and discredit me . Get a clue I don’t care .

Answer the question. Do you believe eve had sex with satan?

[stfassisi]

Do you think Jesus was born of a virgin?

[Lera]

No I don’t believe it . I believe that lie was started by some evil person to use it for evil (just like Hitler who was raised and educated in your church tried to blame the Jews for being evil because they were of Hebrew bloodlines)
I also believe you are perpetuating this lie to avoid answering my question. Passing the buck again ?

How can you call yourself a Christian if you don’t accept the gift ?

WHY DID HE DIE ?

If you don’t accept the gift you don’t believe PERIOD.

[mitch5501]

"...the preposterous theory since I had NEVER even heard of it before now"

I've learnt a lot whilst reading these threads over the years but never have I come across this.If I'd actually heard someone say that I would be hard pressed not to think it was a sort of demonic spewing out of blasphemies to deflect from a confrontation.Incredible.

[stfassisi]

No I don’t believe it

That's good,I was beginning to think you were one on those shepherds chapel followers who teach this because of the obsessive use of strongs concordance

How can you call yourself a Christian if you don’t accept the gift ?

Catholic's accept Christ Sacrifice,we realize that Christ's Sacrifice even covered Moses and Abraham because God is outside of time

You seem to limit Christ's sacrifice to time.

Do you believe Jesus is God and believe in the Holy Trinity?

Explain how you believe this?

[Iscool]

Guess you never read the WORD or you would know that the answer is in it and you don’t need any Catholic writer or creed to spell it out for you .

They claim we can't find the Trinity in the Bible...Have to really wonder where they found the Trinity outside of the scriptures...Perhaps they will tell us...

[Iscool]

Ridicules(Heb. 8:10) The law of love is written on everyone’s heart -it is a free decision to follow or reject it, thus salvation is universal. This is Christianity 101

Typical for Catholics to misquote and pervert scripture to make a Catholic point...

Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Not now but AFTER THOSE DAYS...And what days would that be??? Denile ain't just in Egypt, is it...

You mess with God's scripture and God will mess with your head...He'll turn you into a Mormon, a JW or a Catholic...

[Iscool]

Using strongs Concordance is a joke.It’s flawed.

So which of the 25 or so Greek lexicons out there do you recommend a person use??? Which translation is the best???

Are you one of these people that thinks Eve had sex with satan and produced cain?

So you think it was the apple in the tree and not the pear on the ground??? Do you have any evidence??? Or is this another case of Carnac opening an envelope???

[jjotto]

Rabbi Gil Student is the Managing Editor of the Orthodox Union Press, and is frequently cited by the Rabbinical Council of America.

The OU and the RCA are the largest Orthodox Jewish organizations of their kind.

Rabbi Gil Student’s blog is

http://hirhurim.blogspot.com/

[metmom]

You’re avoiding my questions weather you believe Jesus is God and whether you believe eve had sex with satan and produced cain Your non answers show everyone your beliefs that you believe that eve had sex with satan and deny Jesus is God

Well, Lera, that's one of the most desperate, if you can't refute the facts discredit the messenger tactics I've seen yet.

It's obvious that the desperation is growing. They're resorting to kindergarten tactics.

Good work.

[metmom]

My word.....

I want whatever they were smoking when they came up with that *theory* next time I need surgery.

It must be some pretty good stuff.

[metmom]

If I'd actually heard someone say that I would be hard pressed not to think it was a sort of demonic spewing out of blasphemies .........

It was.....

Whatever the reason.

[metmom]

You’re avoiding my questions weather you believe Jesus is God and whether you believe eve had sex with satan and produced cain Your non answers show everyone your beliefs that you believe that eve had sex with satan and deny Jesus is God

It doesn't deserve the courtesy of an answer, even though Lera was gracious enough to give you one anyway. It was more than you deserved for delving into that perverted line of questioning and accusations.

What is it with Catholics obsession with sex anyway? Why the constant focus on Protestants views on sex?

[smvoice]

I’m with you, mitch. I have NEVER heard THIS one..What kind of hat from hell was this pulled from?

[smvoice]

I’ve been wondering the same thing. Why the obsession with sex? If I didn’t know better I would think that condums are the reason for the tribulation. Forget preaching the gospel of the grace of God. WHAT ABOUT BIRTH CONTROL?

[CynicalBear]

It all comes from their focus on carnal things rather than spiritual.

[Lera]

That's good,I was beginning to think you were one on those shepherds chapel followers who teach this because of the obsessive use of strongs concordance

That's ok as I personally think you are a pretender posing as a follower of Christ by your excess use of out of context scripture and your habit of putting the blame on others . Personally I think you are guilty of everything you accuse others of . BTW the use of the concordance was not for my benefit , I already knew what the words meant . It was for your benefit since it was obvious how you used the scripture you chose out of context and it showed you had no clue what it meant. You were proving my point without even realizing what you were doing .


Catholic's accept Christ Sacrifice,we realize that Christ's Sacrifice even covered Moses and Abraham because God is outside of time


That is not however the question I asked you. I asked you if you accepted the gift . A gift is just that a gift , you don't pay for it and you can't earn it .

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

No acceptance as a gift = no salvation It's real simple works are never good enough and trying to earn or buy it just shows you don't accept it .


You seem to limit Christ's sacrifice to time. Projection --> You're doing it again .


Do you believe Jesus is God and believe in the Holy Trinity? Explain how you believe this?
Open your eyes , I answered this many post ago . Here is some more for you since you didn't get it the first time around .
Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.


Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.


He is χριστος - Christ - Messiah
Mar 8:29 And he saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Peter answereth and saith unto him, Thou art the Christ.


He is the Holy One of God and even the demons know it.(remember now that just because they know who he is doesn't mean that they accept the gift)
Mark 1:23 And there was in their synagogue a man with an unclean spirit; and he cried out,
1:24 Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God.


He is the dayspring from on high Luke 1:78 Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby the dayspring from on high hath visited us,


He is the servant Matthew 12:18 Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.


He is the rose of Sharon
Song of Solomon 2:1 I am the rose of Sharon, and the lily of the valleys.


He is the only begotten Son of God.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

He is the Son of God. John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

He is Shiloh - שׁילה Gen 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.
(BTW this one also proves that he has come since Judah lost the right to rule over itself an pronounce judgements right at about the time Jesus was 12 years old .)

He is the angel of the LORD that appeared to Moses as a flame of fire Exodus 3:2 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.

He is the BRANCH
Zec 3:8 Hear now, O Joshua the high priest, thou, and thy fellows that sit before thee: for they are men wondered at: for, behold, I will bring forth my servant the BRANCH.


He is the captain of the host of the LORD that appeared to Joshua son of Nun , he fought the battle of Jericho Joshua 5:13 And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries?
5:14 And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant?
5:15 And the captain of the LORD'S host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest is holy. And Joshua did so.


He is the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world.
John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.


He is the bread of life John 6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
6:36 But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not.
6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.


He is the way , the truth , and the life
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

He is a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek (Melchizedek was both king and priest of Salem --- Jerusalem)
Psalms 110:4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.


He is King of Kings , he is Lord of Lords Revelation 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.


Understand that I know you think you are slick and the questions you ask are the standard set up so let me just stop you in your tracks right here . No Mary is NOT the mother of God . She is the earthly mother of the Incarnation. He existed long before she did and the scriptures prove it. She has no place in the Trinity and no place above it . She needed a Savior just like everyone else.