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Total Collapse Cannot Happen in America!
Email Subscription From Dr. Boys | June 30, 2012 | Don Boys, Ph.D.

Posted on 06/30/2012 8:17:06 PM PDT by John Leland 1789

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To: yldstrk

I did, but apparently voting doesn’t work. Of course, there’s that other thing, but that would be rather drastic.


21 posted on 06/30/2012 9:56:59 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Marcella

For those of you learning gardening i just found the most amazing video. its called back to eden. its a man of God who had a epiphany of sorts. if you are planning to garden and want Jesus to take the wheel, look this video up. God bless and good night.


22 posted on 06/30/2012 10:05:36 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Marcella

For those of you learning gardening i just found the most amazing video. its called back to eden. its a man of God who had a epiphany of sorts. if you are planning to garden and want Jesus to take the wheel, look this video up. God bless and good night.


23 posted on 06/30/2012 10:06:14 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Marcella
I have a sister-in-law and her husband who live in the glow of liberalism and normalcy bias. They live on the coast and have nothing in case of a hurricane.

My BIL and his NEA (socialist) wife think I'm pretty much a wing nut. They shop for groceries on Sunday....and buy just enough to get them through to....the next Sunday. She actually gets mad if he buys ahead on anything.

Anytime I want to push her button, I make a small, mildly critical remark about the government. Or if I really want to get her fired up, I bring up public schools and how our homeschooled daughter went to private college on scholarship at 16 and ran rings around the products of public school. It's really quite comical.

They refuse to even consider the possibility of a severe enough economic "downturn" to beget violence in the streets. Fortunately they live several states away, so they'll be on their own when things get worse.

24 posted on 06/30/2012 10:06:47 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!


25 posted on 06/30/2012 10:26:02 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: The_Media_never_lie

“If we keep electing Obozos, collapse can certainly happen.”

If we keep electing Obozos, collapse will certainly happen.

There, fixed it.


26 posted on 06/30/2012 10:39:50 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Marcella
That kind of smugness gets cured by reality.

If you can't do the math, or forge the metal, or make or find the food... You die.

That's pretty simple. Life has always been that way.

/johnny

27 posted on 06/30/2012 10:41:02 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: eak3
Amazing how many people think that the sky can't fall. But if you look at the history of man it's basically about all the 'sky falling' events we've had. Of course some were bigger, more devastating and left bigger scars than others. The truth is the sky does fall at time

Sometimes just a little of it falls.

And somtimes the whole damned thing falls down on you.

28 posted on 06/30/2012 10:47:01 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

This happening all over the world Greece, Spain, Italy almost all of Europe. How many countries can Germany prop-up before they too are swamped? Britain and France are already so weak that the Islamist they have allowed to ‘invade’ them will most likely over run them when the time comes.

Here at home we find that the corner three card Monte dealer is more honest than most of the ‘Too Big to Fail’ banks and investment houses. And face it the Monte dealer who ‘scams’ a few hundred is a thousand times more likely to go to jail that the ‘banksters’ that are stealing millions.

If anyone doesn’t believe this is true then watch the big LIBOR scandal unfolding and see if anyone goes to jail. No one they will just fine them and even then the fine won’t equal a pittance compared to what these banks made.

The game is so rigged now that the fraudsters don’t even know how its going to play out. We are headed for some bad times, which is one of the reasons I’ve been sounding the alarm. Its time that you either prepare to stand on your own beholden to no one or accept that you will be a ‘serf’ dependent on others to provide your basic needs.

Check out Ferfal’s blog and Selco’s blog despite what so many think it is NOT impossible for a modern country to quickly fall into chaos! It’s happen before and it is happening now.

As for me I don’t want to be beholden to anyone for providing what is needed for me and mine. I certainly don’t want to have to kiss some ‘gubberment’ third class bureaucratic to try and coax some help from them, I don’t want some ‘jack booted’ thug herding me in line and telling me where to stand, sit, eat or sleep. And last but not least I don’t want to be shut up with a bunch of ‘zombies’ and have to worry about not only trying to get basic necessities but having to fight to keep what I manage to get.

Some seem to think that prepping is foolish, so I ask you what’s easier telling your children and loved ones why you prepared or explaining to them why you didn’t?

But if any provide not for his own, and especially for those of his own house, he has denied the faith, and is worse than an unbeliever. 1 Timothy 5:8

But then someone has to stand on the bridge waiting for FEMA to bring them a bottle of water, an MRE and a warm blanket so as to provide the Network Anchors their background ‘Money Shot’. I wonder how that will workout for them?

I am not saying that things will turn Mad Max/Book of Eli, (With the possible exception of a brief time in a few of the larger big blue cities) but things could easily breakdown for 30 to 60 days during which basic supplies, goods and services stop, banking stops (No checks No Credit Cards, No Debit Cards so on...) now how many people do you think are ready for such?

And between those not ready and those who have always had the ‘gubberment’ hand them everything what do you think the reaction will be?

Their reaction I think can be summed up in one of my favorite quotes:

Quark: Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don’t believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes. ‘Star Trek: Deep Space Nine’: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)” (1998)

For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:

http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf

NOTE! THIS IS A FREE DOWNLOAD. I DO NOT MAKE ONE CENT OFF MY PREPAREDNESS MANUAL!

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3

Lastly this for the doubters and the scoffers.

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger.

Underestimation can be fatal.”


29 posted on 06/30/2012 10:51:38 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

What do you say to family members who completely agree with you about the state of the country and the state of the world, and yet when you suggest they prep, their answer is, “I don’t want to live through that.” ??? This is my situation.


30 posted on 06/30/2012 11:07:50 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: ponygirl

Do they have a location suitable to prepping? I know a serious prepper guy, but he’s seriously deluded in the belief that he could hold on to his stuff if it really hit the fan. Despite thinking he’s Rambo, he lives in the middle of a suburban neighborhood, and will never be more than just one Molotov cocktail away from losing everything.


31 posted on 06/30/2012 11:25:55 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: ponygirl

Prep as much as you can. Find some like minded friends who prep and work with them.


32 posted on 06/30/2012 11:27:56 PM PDT by Redcitizen (New Mexico, home of the green chili & the A-bomb. Coincidence? I think not.)
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To: John Leland 1789

Not to throw cold water on this thread, but what happens if the entire world defaults on its debt? Is it total anarchy? Or does life go on with lots of people, banks and companies wiped out? Does everything start from zero or do politicians continue on their merry way, as if nothing happened?

Me, I’ll keep prepping and trying to convince family members of the need to prepare.


33 posted on 07/01/2012 1:02:50 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: ponygirl
What do you say to family members who completely agree with you about the state of the country and the state of the world, and yet when you suggest they prep, their answer is, “I don’t want to live through that.” ??? This is my situation.

I'll field this question...

First, suppose that the nation is headed for disaster, but that it is destined to recover 12-18 months later? Do they then wish to die rather than face 12-18 months of inconvenience? If their answer is "yes" then I suggest you just write them off.

Also, what if tough times come, but it only requires a few months to adapt to the new reality? Doesn't it make infinitely more sense to simply prepare for that period of acclimatization than to eat a bullet?

Too many amongst us are just spoiled, unthinking children. The gene pool probably wouldn't be harmed too drastically should they decide not to prepare.

34 posted on 07/01/2012 1:22:32 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: Travis McGee
Get ready for a bumpy ride:


35 posted on 07/01/2012 1:34:53 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Donnafrflorida

I’m near Houston. got an early start on my garden this year. Had everything planted by March 7th. Got a good crop of tomatoes, cucumbers, purple hull peas, squash, green beans and okra. The heat killed everything but the okra. Pulled up all the dead plants yesterday.

Gardening around here last 3 months max with about 3 weeks of harvesting.


36 posted on 07/01/2012 2:14:40 AM PDT by Terry Mross ( To all my kin: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Good points. People like this PhD fellow are part of the problem.

Screwed up money is a trailing effect, and just one measure, of a long period of dysfunction and collective stupidity.

It took mankind about 400 years to go from the development of the calculus to putting a man on the moon. It has taken less than 40 years to go from that crowning achievement of mankind to the edge of a New Dark Age.

In every sector of our economy and society, our organizations, businesses, industries, markets, governments, religions, politics, and anything else that needs leadership, are being run by the mind-numbingly stupid and willfully ignorant. What could possibly go wrong?

37 posted on 07/01/2012 2:42:54 AM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: blam
How many new IRS agents will Obama hire to enforce ObamaCare taxes?

Now you've done it , I'm scared sounds worst that the hurricanes ,tornadoes and the floods I've lived though

38 posted on 07/01/2012 4:49:04 AM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: Jack Black

“It always cracks me up that these doom and gloom prophets end 0th advising you to pay off your bills. Lol. Why? borrow as much as you can, invest in hard assets, and pay them off with hyphenated dollars.

Or buy bullets and beans ...
And ignore your debt. In ther world prophesized you ares going to give a damn about your credit rating or bill collectors!”

I agree. Who’s going to be bill collecting after the collapse? Who’s going to be repossessing houses and vehicles? I’ve always thought that if I saw imminent signs of collapse I would go charge every one of my credit cards to the max at any gun store and grocery store I could get in to. I realize that’s fantasy land thinking because every one will be trying to do the same thing.


39 posted on 07/01/2012 4:57:46 AM PDT by suthener
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To: John Leland 1789; lightman; SF_Redux

Even though I’ve been 100% debt-free for the past 23yrs, I don’t understand this on aspect of prepping advice:

“... pay off your bills...”

If the world/US economies collapse, what the heck does that matter? Are credit reports, bill collectors etc even a consideration if anarchy and chaos are rampant? Just asking.


40 posted on 07/01/2012 5:34:00 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (All libs and most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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