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Why a Dallas UM pastor is observing the Muslim fast of Ramadan
examiner ^ | 7.29.2012 | Dina Malki

Posted on 07/29/2012 6:19:54 PM PDT by Morgana

United Methodist Rev. Wess Magruder has not only decided to observe the Ramadan fast this year with his Muslim friends, blog about his experience, but break his fast with Muslims as well. Last night, Magruder accepted the invitation of a local Muslim to eat “iftar,” the fast-breaking meal at the McKinney Islamic Association. Having succeeded in fasting from sunrise till sunset for eight consecutive days, the pastor appreciated God's grace in this communal meal. Most importantly, this celebration reminded him of the main reason why he had decided to fast: neighborly love.

Magruder writes on his blog how he has been feeling spiritually stale lately and how he was yearning to the old Christian fast that he believes Americans are not big fans of. Therefore, Magruder turned to the Muslim faith for inspiration since he knew that Muslims have successfully been fasting for 30 days each year during Ramadan for over fourteen hundred years. The Muslim fast is a total abstention from eating and drinking during the daylight hours. Furthermore, the fast goes beyond the stomach to include the eyes, the tongue, the ears, and all limbs which are expected to be trained to submit to the pleasure of God by refraining from ill manners and moral vice. A few Muslims succeed in attaining a heart-fast where they become spiritually submissive to the divine as well.

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TOPICS: Humor; Islam; Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: pastor; ramadan; religiousleft; umc
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1 posted on 07/29/2012 6:20:00 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Has he and his dhimmi congregation started paying their jizya yet?


2 posted on 07/29/2012 6:25:48 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Morgana

fast with the muslims all you want. but you still can’t make a valid confession or be offered Holy Communion.


3 posted on 07/29/2012 6:26:57 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Woe to them...)
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To: Morgana

What an asshole.


4 posted on 07/29/2012 6:28:34 PM PDT by WackySam (Obama got Osama just like Nixon landed on the moon.)
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To: Morgana

There’s a better way to drop pounds.


5 posted on 07/29/2012 6:29:53 PM PDT by GreatRoad (O < 0)
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To: Morgana

Methinks this pastor needs to go back and read 2 Maccabees.


6 posted on 07/29/2012 6:30:32 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Morgana

So this pastor is bending over backwards to prove how liberal he is. He’s bending over backwards to prove that he is not “Islamophobic”. He’s bending over backwards to earn the accolades from the MSNBC and Daily Kos crowd. The same crowd which tend to denigrate religion gives a place of honor to Islam specifically. Go figure.


7 posted on 07/29/2012 6:32:05 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Morgana
The Methodist Church left me over a decade ago. My pastor proclaimed 'We must redistribute the wealth so that everybody in the world has enough’. He also tried to blame 9/11 on World Hunger. Done with the lot.
8 posted on 07/29/2012 6:32:19 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: al_c

methinks the pastor does not have that book in his Bible.

However you are correct.


9 posted on 07/29/2012 6:32:32 PM PDT by Morgana (This space for rent. Cheap.)
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To: Morgana

So this pastor is bending over backwards to prove how liberal he is. He’s bending over backwards to prove that he is not “Islamophobic”. He’s bending over backwards to earn the accolades from the MSNBC and Daily Kos crowd. The same crowd which tend to denigrate religion gives a place of honor to Islam specifically. Go figure.


10 posted on 07/29/2012 6:32:32 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: All

Who has our Methodist Ping?


11 posted on 07/29/2012 6:34:24 PM PDT by Morgana (This space for rent. Cheap.)
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To: originalbuckeye

>> The Methodist Church left me over a decade ago.

Where are you? Our congregation (central Texas) is not that way.


12 posted on 07/29/2012 6:37:19 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Love the cult, respect the leader, but I simply can't drink the koolaid and die.)
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To: Morgana

I wonder if he shared the gospel with any of these infidels. Of course this assumes he knows what the gospel is.


13 posted on 07/29/2012 6:38:12 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: Morgana

I wonder if the pastor knows that his “neighbor’s” religion requires him to kill his Christian neighbor unless he agrees to a status as a second class citizen.


14 posted on 07/29/2012 6:39:32 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Morgana

Note to pastor: Gorging yourself before sunrise then gorging yourself after sunset is not fasting.


15 posted on 07/29/2012 6:41:49 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Fast & Furious: Proof the Government should not have access to guns)
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To: Morgana

From this apostate’s blog (The New MethoFesto):

“I must know what it is like to worship God as a Muslim.
Perhaps then I will learn how to worship God … as a Christian.”

That’s all I needed to read. He makes me sick to be a UM. No direct references to Jesus. Just the “shared God” of muslims and Christians. Does he know how they describe Jesus in the Koran? Does he know what they say about Jesus’ role in God’s kingdom? They deny the Trinity, the divinity of Christ, the virgin birth, and the resurrection. And I bet that if you really cornered this guy and asked him about them, he would deny them too—if he couldn’t change the subject or weasel out of the question. I know because I had a leftist pastor just like him once.


16 posted on 07/29/2012 6:43:45 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: GreatRoad
There’s a better way to drop pounds.

There are plenty of Muslims that would be happy to help him loose the ugly 5 pounds above his neck.

17 posted on 07/29/2012 6:45:38 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Morgana
Magruder writes on his blog how he has been feeling spiritually stale lately and how he was yearning to the old Christian fast that he believes Americans are not big fans of. Therefore, Magruder turned to the Muslim faith for inspiration

Like, Americans are like, totally, not into it, man... so like, I'm like, going, you know, like all Muslim on them and shiite....I'm'a PROVE sumpin'!!!

(yeah, tell me it's not more than THAT!)

18 posted on 07/29/2012 6:45:44 PM PDT by workerbee (June 28, 2012 -- 9/11 From Within)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist
Note to pastor: Gorging yourself before sunrise then gorging yourself after sunset is not fasting.

Note to Clueless About Words: Any substantial period of time without a meal is a fast. Hence, the morning meal and why it is called "breakfast" because it breaks the fast from eating since the previous day. 12 hours before a blood panel with nothing but water is a fast. Going without food all day, even if you eat again some time after sunset, is a fast.
19 posted on 07/29/2012 6:47:37 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Morgana

There is a time of fasting during the 40 days of Lent, if the pastor is so inclined. Can he do it?? We’ll see if he know about it. Some of us have done it...Drink a lot of water and some with enzimes.


20 posted on 07/29/2012 6:49:11 PM PDT by tillacum
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To: aruanan

Skipping lunch is not a fast.


21 posted on 07/29/2012 6:50:06 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Fast & Furious: Proof the Government should not have access to guns)
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To: workerbee

>>(yeah, tell me it’s not more than THAT!)

Sadly, its a lot more than that. This pathetic little dhimmi clown believes in the One World Religion: the one that denies Christ and dooms humanity. He claims to be a Christian, but can’t even bring himself to pray to Jesus before his newfound “friends” who have to be laughing their butts off at this fool’s weakness.


22 posted on 07/29/2012 6:51:25 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Morgana

I have heard that — back in the ~1930s, there was no more evangelistic denomination in the US than the old-line Methodists.

However, since becoming the “United Methodists,” and allowing libs to take over their seminaries, the Methodists have for the most part been a drag on the American Christian scene.

Here in Texas, they seem to thrive and grow — for reasons I cannot quite comprehend. (I suspect that some of the UM pastors in these parts are either less liberal than their northern colleagues — or else they learn to keep their liberal views to themselves while wearing cowboy boots and going deer hunting.)

However, this pastor’s no doubt well-intentioned Ramadan gambit is a glowing example of the shallow level of Christian theology that dominates United Methodist circles.

To with, he is to his Muslim “friends,” at best a dhimmi, and at worst, nothing more than a filthy kafir ape worthy of death.

His goodwill ‘gesture’ will elicit no goodwill in the implacable hearts of the Muslims in his neighborhood — the caliphate must be established!


23 posted on 07/29/2012 6:52:55 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Islam is a Hate Crime. (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!))
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To: al_c

Or study the Battle of Lepanto.


24 posted on 07/29/2012 6:58:27 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Morgana

Was it breakfast? “I`ll have the ham and eggs, please.”


25 posted on 07/29/2012 7:01:50 PM PDT by nomad
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To: Morgana

Big deal,I fast 365 days a year from 8pm to 8am


26 posted on 07/29/2012 7:05:54 PM PDT by Craftmore
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To: Morgana

Thanks! Another name to add to my “They serve Satan” List.


28 posted on 07/29/2012 7:10:57 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Bryanw92
how he was yearning to the old Christian fast

The only Christian fast this guy could be referring to, is the Catholic "no meat on Friday" fast, or potentially the even older, more universally Christian fasts of Wednesdays & Fridays.

Though likely he'd rather die than admit any connection to Catholicism (yet not, of course, to Islam).

29 posted on 07/29/2012 7:16:47 PM PDT by workerbee (June 28, 2012 -- 9/11 From Within)
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To: Morgana

Must have converted when he was in Muslim West Africa.

“Rev. Wes Magruder, D.Min. is Associate Pastor at FUMC Rowlett. Most recently, he served as a commissioned missionary of the General Board of Global Ministries, assigned to serve in Yaounde, Cameroon, West Africa as the Director of the United Methodist Mission in Cameroon.”

The Senior pastor at that church is female. as are 3 of the 6 associates.

You’d think the female associate pastor from Kenya would know the difference between Christians and Muzzies.


30 posted on 07/29/2012 7:19:07 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: man_in_tx

I might add that the pastor is probably woefully ignorant of the true nature of Islam, as are most Americans.

I suggest he begin reading AtlasShrugs, CreepingSharia, and BareNakedIslam to get a quick immersion course!


31 posted on 07/29/2012 7:24:45 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Islam is a Hate Crime. (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!))
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To: Morgana
the pastor appreciated God's grace in this communal meal

Does this stupid schmuck realize that the Koran says that Christ will return...and RENOUNCE THE GOSPEL?

32 posted on 07/29/2012 7:25:05 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Morgana
Methodists. What an absolute joke of a religion.

No surprise here.

33 posted on 07/29/2012 7:25:43 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: Morgana
feeling spiritually stale lately

So he's trying out other religions?

34 posted on 07/29/2012 7:26:40 PM PDT by Gamecock (We don't come to Christ to be born again; rather, we are born again in order to come to Christ. RCS)
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To: Morgana

Because he is a fool....


35 posted on 07/29/2012 8:07:34 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Bryan24
If you are ever in a Methodist Church read the hymn book

Stamp inside the book says approved by the National Council of Churches

Communist

36 posted on 07/29/2012 8:13:43 PM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: al_c
Are you referring to Hanukkah and the defiling of the temple by the heathen? We need to find a way to differentiate the diverse group of Christians from the deverse group of heretical false Christians. Who cares what the phony does? He is dust on our feet.
37 posted on 07/29/2012 9:14:28 PM PDT by Judge Kovitzky (Eat more chicken.)
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To: Morgana; xzins

well, in one way — he is trying to re-learn the blessings of fasting, which is what we in the West have neglected. I don’t agree with where he’s learning it from, but he is looking for something that we have lost.


38 posted on 07/29/2012 9:26:04 PM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Nervous Tick
I was in California. I tried another congregation and it was the same. I haven't gone to church since moving to Arizona. I know I will go again sometime but my work here is so stressful, I need the time on the weekends to just prepare for another awful week of work.
39 posted on 07/29/2012 9:30:33 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: originalbuckeye
"The Methodist Church left me over a decade ago."

I'm not sure when they left me. I grew up in the Methodist Church before it was the "United" Methodist Church. I spent twenty years in the military and my wife and I were often back and forth between a base chapel and local Methodist Churches. I'm not sure when the "United" thing happened, but it was probably in the early to mid sixties, but when it did happen, I immediately noticed that the church literature took a leftward turn. I was much younger at that time and was less sensitive to things "politically left" and simply tolerated it for a while. Don't recall when I called it quits with the UMC.

40 posted on 07/29/2012 9:46:13 PM PDT by davisfh
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

Some days it feels like it though.


41 posted on 07/29/2012 10:41:29 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (The Obamas = rude, crude and socially unacceptable)
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To: Morgana

He is playing with fire


42 posted on 07/30/2012 4:35:45 AM PDT by yldstrk ( That is corrMy heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: originalbuckeye

There is no better way than to worship Jesus and the Holy Spirit and God and ask for their protection and assistance during the week


43 posted on 07/30/2012 4:40:06 AM PDT by yldstrk ( That is corrMy heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Morgana
Enabler. He'll be the first to be enslaved.
44 posted on 07/30/2012 4:53:10 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Cronos; Morgana

In the back of his mind, he’s probably just thinking “weight-loss plan.”

Sorry to be a cynic, but liberals make me go there.

the only scripture they find divinely inspired is that about giving them a 10th of your income....now THAT is from God.

:>)


45 posted on 07/30/2012 5:40:22 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Nervous Tick

Same for Georgia!


46 posted on 07/30/2012 5:53:29 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Morgana
methinks the pastor does not have that book in his Bible.

Ah, yes ... you're probably correct on that.

47 posted on 07/30/2012 6:45:10 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Judge Kovitzky
Are you referring to Hanukkah and the defiling of the temple by the heathen?

I was referring to the mother who watched all 7 of her sons die a martyr's death because they refused to eat what was unlawful.

We need to find a way to differentiate the diverse group of Christians from the deverse group of heretical false Christians. Who cares what the phony does? He is dust on our feet.

Yep. I wonder how many will leave his church over this.

48 posted on 07/30/2012 6:48:49 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Bryanw92
Does he know how they describe Jesus in the Koran?

Mohammedanism is (among other things) the Arian heresy run amok, gorging itself on steroids, PCP, and crystal meth ...

49 posted on 07/30/2012 6:51:43 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Morgana

I wonder if he will have a go at the Iman’s pet goat. This idiot might as well get the full experience.


50 posted on 07/30/2012 7:04:25 AM PDT by Jay Redhawk (Zombies are just intelligent, good looking democrats.)
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