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Posted on 08/18/2012 5:28:28 PM PDT by delacoert
Mitt Romney's choice of Paul Ryan as his vice presidential candidate makes 2012 the first time in American history that a major party has run a ticket without a Protestant on it. Romney is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and Ryan is a Roman Catholic.
Have Mormons and Catholics always gotten along as well as the Republican running mates appear to?
No. The root of the conflict is doctrinal. The premise of the Book of Mormon is that the Bible is a corrupt and incomplete account of God's revelation — an implicit criticism of Catholic doctrine. The Book of Mormon also makes reference to an evil "church which is most abominable above all other churches," described more colorfully as "the mother of harlots." Although the Book of Mormon does not identify this evil institution as the Catholic Church, many Mormons have believed the two to be one and the same since the publication of the Book of Mormon in 1830.
Despite their doctrinal differences, Mormons and Catholics cohabited peacefully in Utah in the 19th century — but leaders of the two churches began passive-aggressively sniping at one another in the 20th century. In the late 1910s, Salt Lake City Catholic Bishop Joseph Sarsfield Glass commissioned murals in the Cathedral of the Madeleine that incorporated Bible passages that could easily be read as criticisms of Mormonism, including a line from St. Paul's letter to the Galatians that describes any alternate gospel as "anathema."
And in the 1930s and 1940s, a Catholic radio program and a Catholic pamphlet titled "A 'Foreign Mission' Close to Home!" convinced Mormon leaders — mistakenly — that Catholics were trying to convert Mormons to Catholicism.
Mormon mistrust of the Roman Catholic Church came to a head with the 1958 publication of Bruce McConkie's encyclopedia-like "Mormon Doctrine," which was not an official LDS publication, though McConkie was a low-ranking church leader. McConkie's entry for Catholicism simply referred readers to another entry called "Church of the Devil," which explicitly identified the Roman Catholic Church as being "most abominable above all other churches."
McConkie's book so upset the Catholic bishop of Salt Lake City that he visited the LDS church president in tears, which convinced the LDS leader to rein in anti-Catholic sentiment. Derogatory references to the Catholic Church were removed from later editions of "Mormon Doctrine," which is now out of print, and Mormon-Catholic relations in Utah became much friendlier in the 1960s and thereafter.
The most notable recent Mormon-Catholic clash came in 2001, when the Vatican began requiring Mormons who converted to Catholicism to be rebaptized — a move that implicitly called into question the Christian bona fides of the Mormon church. But the past decade has been a time of alliance between the churches, with Mormon and Catholic leaders coming together to fight gay marriage in Hawaii and California and to stand against perceived government encroachments on religious freedoms — stances that align with the Romney-Ryan platform.
So you want people to be led by you to thinking that Mormons are Protestant Christians?
So say those who spend their time lying drunk beside logs looking at frogs.
Why should I care??
Freerepublic has many Christians, they care about Christianity.
If I am not mistaken -- the Mormon baptism does not contain the full baptism that the Catholic Church does.
On Infant Baptism and the Complete Gratuity of Salvation
Parents: Don’t Delay Baptism for your Infants!
One Baptism for the Remission of Sins/The Sacrament of Baptism {Ecumenical thread)
Radio Replies Second Volume - The Sacraments [Baptism]
Baptism and Infant Baptism
"Baptism Now Saves You" - Nuts & Bolts - Tim Staples
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Baptism: Initiation and Regeneration
Are Catholics “Born Again?”
Baptizing infants, Pope speaks of 'adventure of being disciples'
Celebrate Your Birthday in the Church
Infant Baptism
Once a Catholic . . . (and part 2) . . . The Chicken's Questions
How Soon Should a Baby be Baptized?
Baptismal Complexes- The Sacrament of Baptism, Part 2
The Catechism of St. Thomas Aquinas BAPTISM
Beginning Catholic: The Sacrament of Baptism: Gateway to New Life [Ecumenical]
Converted Muslim Tells Story Behind Papal Baptism
What You [Catholics] Need to Know: Baptism [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
A Brief Catechism for Adults - Lesson 20: The Sacrament of Baptism
Baptism and the Usus Antiquior (Catholic/Orthodox Caucus)
Justified by Baptism (fallout from the Beckwith conversion grows)
The Million-Dollar Infant Baptism
Mystical Baptism and Limbo
The Early Church Fathers on Baptism - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
A Critique of a Critique (On Baptism by Immersion)
Catholics, Reformed Christian Churches sign document recognizing common baptism
It took all those links to say that?
Read my post again, I said that already, Mormon baptism is not a Christian baptism like the Christian denominations.
Here is what I posted. “Not really rebaptized, but baptized into Christianity.”
LDS teaching is Biblical. It is a matter of choice and interpretation. Christian churches don’t vote on who is and isn’t Christian. That authority rests only with Jesus Christ.
Thanks for all you’re doing to help my re-election.
- Barak
So is the gay poofters book, since it's all a matter if interpretation.
Your intellect is a real asset to FR...not.
Get lost punk.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
You mean “of interpretation”, but your slip is telling. “If” is a word few people ever take action on. They mostly just go along with what someone has told them. Thinking for yourself is too hard, but then that’s why we’re a conservative. We like to think for ourselves.
Is it baptism that makes it Christian? What makes a baptism a Christian baptism?
Post 15 looks like it has all the sources on how Christian churches explain why Mormonism is not part of Christianity.
This article’s about politics, not theology.
LOL, you should read it again, it is about religion, Mormonism and Catholicism.
That is why we are in Religion, not Politics.
Yes. I hit the "i" key instead of the "o" key.
" your slip is telling."
No.
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