The core tenet of Christianity is belief in the Holy Trinity, neither BHO or Romney believe~!

http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc.htm - http://darlychagasmessages.blogspot.com/ ^ | August 26, 2012 | Catechism of Catholic Church

[stpio]

Read paragraph #234 of the Catechism and a powerful recent message from Our Lord's mother about the Holy Trinity, given on Trinity Sunday. Look how far we have gone away, we do not have a choice for a Christian leader and so few care.

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Message of Our Lady - Mary, Full of Grace The Advent of the New World - Words of Our Lady THE TIME OF PREPARATION FOR THE PURIFICATION OF HUMANITY

June 3, 2012 - Feast of the Holy Trinity

Dear children, today, the day of the Lord, with much love and affection I come to bless you in the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. United to the Holy Trinity, together we will get the real Peace for the world. My children, the Holy Word of God reveals to you today in this great day when the Holy Church dedicate it to the Holy Trinity that is God. All human beings must submit to the Holy Trinity. They are three distinct persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit with the Divine nature, only the Son has two natures, Divine and human. But they have the same Power, absolute Power over all things. They have always existed as They are Eternal. Therefore all men have the duty to love, adore, praise to the Blessed Trinity. So you must understand that this is a mystery of God. Jesus Christ made it clear to His disciples that they take to all people His teaching on obligatory acceptance for anyone who converts, to worship, love and praise the Holy Trinity. He gave this explanation when He told them that was given all authority in Heaven and on earth, and ordered them to make disciples of Him all nations, baptizing them in the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. He told them to teach them to fulfill the Will of God, as He does so. Jesus Christ also told them that He would be with them until the end of the world. My children, the vast wealth that God distributes over all is this: the opportunity to convert, through faith, the belief that God exists, He is invisible to the eye, but you can feel His presence, are able of Loving, to worship Him and be sure that He is taking care at all times of each of you. With faith you are able to correct your mistakes, walking in righteousness, because He is who gives you the ability to accept what is Real. All this is understood by all those who receive the Baptism, because the Baptism is a Grace that God bestows upon you. From the time you were baptized, were born to life in God. You received the grace of the union with the Father, the Son and the Divine Holy Spirit. Who lives in Him will have help from Him, can achieve great things with the help of Him, above all have the Grace to be able to see his mistakes and correct them, learn to apologize and trust that He forgives, has humility, trying to repair the error with the acceptance and love.

When man falls into error, often feel satisfaction, but there are those who recognize, feel ashamed of the error. It is like if someone is in front of a mirror looking at his beautiful face created by God to be always beautiful, passing through a change that causes horror, a formation caused by the sin. And sin is the destruction, destroys even the appearance of a man. This is known because it can be understood, because you know that the possessed are hideously deformed, which is the devil that enters in the person and makes him a tool to terrorize people, sin takes away the beauty of the sinner. God does not want this to any of His children, He teaches you how to avoid falling into this trap and you must learn as much as possible. To protect you, He gave you the Baptism, that ye might be part of Him. With the Baptism you receive the Light of the Holy Spirit, He gives you the Gifts and valuing them you walk in the safe road. My children, let us thank today to the Holy Trinity for giving you the Sacraments, to give you the opportunity to know the value of your lives, to strengthen you to achieve the Salvation.

Nobody lives without God, is constantly present in our lives because He gave us life. Even those who do not believe in Him have the constant care of Him until the hour of death when they have to decide whether they want the life He offers or not. If they want it, will have to convert and if not, will have no Union with Him, will go to hell. God does not abandon anyone, man is he who turns away from Him forever, because do not to Love Him. God offers the Heavenly Paradise to all, but not everyone wants the Salvation. All generations receive this offer, but are free to accept it or not. My children, meditate in the advice that I give you, love the Holy Trinity and you will have all you need. You will be happy for all the eternity. Get ready for the big day when God will give you a new life, you will live in His Kingdom.

The new life does not mean to born again, but to go through the purification and reach Holiness. You will have the opportunity to undergo a change that only God can do in you, is like iron passing through the fire, so the Sacred Fire of the Divine Holy Spirit will give you this change. You will be pure, all that causes evil on you will be burned and only will remain what God wants in you. Prepare yourselves, it is coming the time to improve your situation in front of God. You will no longer be slaves of the sin, ye will be free, fully of God, that ye are sanctified by Him.

This is what I come to reveal to you today for your conversion. Pray, pray, pray for the Holy Father Benedict XVI, for all the Clergy, for the religious men and women, for all mankind. Pray for the atheists and pagans, never cease to fight for them, praying always. Pray for the Holy Church founded by Jesus Christ, be faithful to God and you will lack of nothing. Trust in what Jesus Christ teaches you, learning you will be victorious. Help to the Holy Father with your prayers, he has a mission so beautiful and you must help him get to the end. The end is near, but is not the end of the world, is the end of a time. I love you much and I cover you with My Mantle of Love. Brazil, Brazil, three times you were called and you are not yet prepared to overcome the time that is approaching to you. Listen to the Voice of God and ask the Light to avoid falling into the abyss. You are called by the Force of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. For all nations have come the warnings, who values, takes care of the soul and gets ready to win. The Holy Trinity is calling constantly.

Now I bless you in the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, the Mother of Jesus Christ, the Savior of the world,

Mary, the Immaculate Conception.

You must meditate on the Holy Gospel today: Matthew 28:16-20.

[fabian]

o please...plenty of people like I, know of the resurrection and are not big trinity pushers like you.
Beside, the way the trinity is taught by the apostate church is a big lie...that Jesus is the God of the bible. Tired of false teachers!

[RobbyS]

The term “Mother of God” is a translation of Mater Dei. But the Greek term is Theotokos, which is more literally translated as “God-bearer.” The term means that she gave birth to the God-man Jesus. Some would say, well she was the mother of Jesus but not God. No one says that she was the Mother of the Holy Trinity, only the mother of Jesus. But we also teach the Jesus was true God, and true man. Man in the round, body and soul. So Mary is central to the Incarnation. The ark of the New Covenant.

[RobbyS]

Can you reframe from using such language. Yes, for more than 150 years there was a debate in the Church over the identity of Christ. In four different ecumenical councils. The debate was basically over the interpretation of the Bible. The first council was arranged by the Emperor Constantine to end divisions in the Church caused by the teachings of an Alexandrian cleric Arius. But I emphasize that it was a debate about the meaning of scripture. Disregard the authority of the Church and the councils, you can comes up with many other theories, among them Arianism and Nestorianism and monophysitism. The Protestant Reformers generally were trinitarians, but dismissing the authority of the councils, they let their successors at loose ends so to speak, since they have had to go back to square one and argue over the meaning of Scripture.

[johngrace]

I do not know about the title of the thread but you are wrong about the Mother of God.

When we do not believe in the Mother of God. You are either confused believer or working on the wrong side.  Did you know you do not believe that Jesus had a Mother if you declare she is not the Mother of God.

Well we have a problem "Houston " .

If Jesus Christ is sinless like the Bible shows. We have to look at what makes Him sinless. We believe he is sinless because he never broke a commandment. Now what are the commandments. There are at least ten commandments beside six hundred thirteen mosaic laws. We know that God became man in Jesus Christ (1John4 ) according to Biblical evidence. Which this logic fits into a line of reasoning that can not be broken. He came by birth of a human female as told by the archangel Gabriel to Mary which puts her in the equation. If he is God by perfection meaning  spotless lamb equals sinless man Than the greatest commandment is as good as the least commandment if he is spotless. Because if one is not held up neither is he the Sinless Savoir.  

Also if he is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow which was written after his gospel ( his birth and his resurrection)  accounts by the Apostles he is unchanged since this time.  Divinity in birth by woman equals a mother of his humanity and divinity (1John4)together in the human race. Which is what 1John4 is the test par none of the true Christ as The Apostle John points out. Since he is sinless not to go against any commandment as Savoir and God. He can not ignore or mean to dis honor his mother in the commandment for Mother and Father of a human.

Since he is human he has to obey the commandment of Honor your Father and Mother.  He can not ever and I mean ever slip in a deliberate act of dishonor to his parents. All the perfection and purity of God our Savoir falls if we believe otherwise. He being God to live for ever and ever is him being perfect in commandments observing for all eternity. We especially see he is the wounded/ slain lamb in the book of Revelation. Well for him to be wounded means he is still in the "cloth" of humanity. He is just as human as right after the resurrection and his ascension into heaven. Which means special favor on his parents. Whether we like it or not this commandment is for us to honor/ favor your mother.

If he is King his mother is special/ honor to him or he would be a liar thus not the sinless Savoir. He is not a liar.

The human mother of Jesus can not mean not of God because : Jesus in the flesh/human equals his fleshly Mother is indeed the Mother of God because of 1 John4.

You can not have this biblical reality deem otherwise then there is no true Christ without His Divinity having flesh which only came through a Mother. This is why Mary is the mother of God/ Divinity whether you like it or not. 

[stpio]

“Jesus did not teach about a trinity ...he said...”forgive us as we forgive”...so we will not be forgiven if we do not exercise patience. That is the key of Christianity and something that the church is woefully inadequate in teaching well... sadly.”

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Our Lord teaches the Apostles about the Trinity. The
verses...You must meditate on the Holy Gospel today: Matthew 28:16-20 are recommended at the end of the
message from Mary. Our Lord names the Trinity.

And in another verse, Our Lord refers to Himself as God,
and there are other Gospel examples. Mormons do not believe
Jesus always was and always will be.

John 17:5
And now glorify thou me, O Father, with thyself, with the glory which I had, before the world was, with thee.

[johngrace]

I meant the prophecies not trinity.

[johngrace]

I listen to Christmas music all year on Internet radio. I will tell you that when a certain chorus comes up singing the exact words of a Classical Christmas song then I can tell they are not singing in the Holy Spirit by just listening. I will look and it will be The Mormon Tabernacle Choir. They can sing the words of a usually anointed song but not have the Holy Spirit thus no anointing in the song.

I am not kidding. Usually I am in tune with the Holy Spirit after praying the Divine Mercy Chaplet. It is very sweet and sensitive so then to harsh hostile unseen spirits comparision. You just know. It is like our Lord declares. "Be still and know I am the Lord". He is telling us to know his spirit.

Praise Jesus! We can and We will! Hallelujah!!!!!!!

[xzins]

Jesus is a historical figure for me, and he’s also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher. And he’s also a wonderful teacher. I think it’s important for all of us, of whatever faith, to have teachers in the flesh and also teachers in history.

The above is not a Trinitarian statement, DT. There is absolutely nothing Trinitarian about it.

Historical
Bridge
Means
Teacher

A Trinitarian believes Jesus is the 2d person of the Godhead, the Lord Himself.

This sounds like a form of Socianism (which, in my mind, is very amenable to the islamic understanding of Jesus.)

[xzins]

Sorry, Uriel, but you can’t deny that John and Hebrews were written by Jews, and you can’t deny that the beginnings of each book are thoroughly Trinitarian, whether we want to use that word or want to have some kind of extended verbal description.

“1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.2 The same was in the beginning with God.3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

“The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word”

[trebb]

I am a single-issue voter. The issue this year is: Which candidate is not Obama?

Never looked at it like that - I'm with you.

[Biggirl]

Take confort, Mitt Romney has at least Rep. Paul Ryan for VP running mate, a devout Roman Catholic.

[Biggirl]

Not really.

Give Romney CREDIT that at least he respects people of Christian faith and morals.

[Biggirl]

You mean a Protestant church.

[Hoodat]

So what’s the Main Event today? Catholics v. Mormons? Next, someone will be telling us not to hang out with Samaritans. Oh, wait . . .

[Hoodat]

Do you exercise the gifts of the Spirit?

[Cronos]

incorrect. Orthodox, Oriental Christians, Catholics, Lutherans, Presbyterians, Congregationalists, Anglicans, Methodists, Mennonites, Baptists and many Pentecostals believe in the Holy Trinity as a basic tenet of the Faith.

Oneness Pentecostals, Jehovah's Witnesses, Unitarians, Mormons etc. do no.

[Cronos]

all evangelicals and Pentecostals.

not all -- oneness pentecostals do not....

[circlecity]

"OBAMA: Right. Jesus is a historical figure for me, and he’s also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher. And he’s also a wonderful teacher. I think it’s important for all of us, of whatever faith, to have teachers in the flesh and also teachers in history. http://blogs.cbn.com/thebrodyfile/archive/2008/06/03/2004-interview-obama-talks-about-jesus-heaven-and-sin.aspx"

Wow, isn't this exactly the islamic depiction of Jesus?

[Cronos]

uri: The Jews who followed Yah'shua did not believe in three gods or a trinity.

That was a later Greek thing codified and promulgated by the Roman "church" with the development of Dogma in the form of creeds.

Interesting.. boatbums, another case for you. This is a definite non-Trinitarian piece, eh? Do you agree with it?

[Cronos]

buckwheat: Primitive Christian groups like the Church of God reject the Trinity as well.

I reject the Trinity. ..

I hate to spoil your orthodox confab, but the “Feast of the Holy Trinity” is nowhere found in Scripture.

hmmm... what do you mean by a primitive group?

So, do you reject anything and any word that is not explicitly written in scripture? That is your interpretation of scripture right?