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Sister Simone Campbell, ‘Nun from the Bus,’ rips Republicans at Democratic convention
RNS ^ | September 5, 2012 | David Gibson

Posted on 09/06/2012 12:47:40 PM PDT by NYer

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To: Mrs. Don-o
SHE'S not the Catholic Church.

In fact, she's apparently abandoning the Catholic Faith.

You hardly make your point very clear by doing the same.

Mrs. Don-o, I think you're missing the point. If the sister in question is "abandoning the Catholic Church" then why is she still a member in good standing? And she is far from the only example. Why are so many liberal Democrats Catholics in good standing? And please don't give me the "they're not in good standing" talk. The fact that they are not publicly reprimanded in some way gives a scandal to other good Catholics which is why the good Catholics leave the Church. In fact, the Church gives traditionalists a much tougher time than it gives liberals.

FCOL. I was told in graduate school that the way I believed "wasn't Catholic" and that I should get out because I believed the first eleven chapters of Genesis. Can't the hordes or liberals be told to get out as well, or is belief in Genesis 1-11 some sort of Supreme Sin That Outranks All Others?

61 posted on 09/06/2012 3:21:37 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: DannyTN
Thanks. I was being facetious in my post, but yours gives me a lot of food for thought.

I'm not sure we can restore the manufacturing base we have lost. But we could do a lot better by reviewing our tax and regulatory policies that cause U.S. based companies to outsource from abroad.
62 posted on 09/06/2012 3:24:52 PM PDT by kenavi (Obama doesn't hate private equity. He wants to be it with our money.)
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To: NYer

I don’t understand catholics who say ‘I didn’t leave the catholic church, it left me.’

There is nothing (please God) that is going to cause me to leave the church Jesus Christ founded. Do you mean to tell me your just going to give up and let heretics take over without a fight?

Is that the same thing your going to do with our country? And which is more important?

That’s almost as disheartening as these heretical nuns on the bus. Last night I dropped a letter to a priest in Cleveland who supports them. He has yet to respond.

Frodo: I can’t do this, Sam.

Sam: I know. It’s all wrong. By rights we shouldn’t even be here. But we are. It’s like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn’t want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it’s only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you. That meant something, even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn’t. They kept going. Because they were holding on to something.

Frodo: What are we holding onto, Sam?

Sam: That there’s some good in this world, Mr. Frodo... and it’s worth fighting for.”


63 posted on 09/06/2012 3:40:44 PM PDT by Cap'n Crunch (Rush Limbaugh, the Winston Churchill of our time)
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To: kenavi
I'm not sure we can restore the manufacturing base we have lost.

I don't think we would want to restore all of it. But we do want to be back at full employment and we want to restore the higher value jobs. Restore Industries that militarily senstive or high tech. Garment manufacturing at this point should probably stay overseas. But I'd move anything and everything back if necessary to get to full employment.

But we could do a lot better by reviewing our tax and regulatory policies that cause U.S. based companies to outsource from abroad.

Tax and regulations are what people and companies complain about, but it's the labor wage differential that really causes companies to go overseas. You could eliminate all regulations and all taxes and you still won't compete with communist chinese labor at $2/day.

Unless we put some protections back in place, we're in a wage race to the bottom with third world countries.

64 posted on 09/06/2012 5:49:14 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: PapaBear3625
PapaBear3625: Thanks for the link, I didn't think they spoke to or for true Catholics or Christians in general. Good thing I'm not a Cardinal, I would excommunicate these false nuns by the droves and the same for all the so-called Catholics like Nancy Pelousy.
65 posted on 09/06/2012 6:01:53 PM PDT by oncebitten (Obama: could not get a clue if he were covered in clue musk and standing in a field of horny clues.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"She may be a nun but I’m having none of it.."

She's no nun!

Someone just misunderstood her answer when she was asked which teachings of the Catholic Church she agreed with, and she said "None!"

66 posted on 09/06/2012 6:34:02 PM PDT by Heart-Rest (God Bless America)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
You've got a good point there, ZC. Actually I wrote too hastily in virtually reading Sr. Simone out of the Church. I was wrong, because I was thinking she was one of the old IHM's, who actually did leave the Church (they were a breakaway congregation in L.A.) Actually, she's a SSS and her congregation is still in the Church, a canonical congregation. I misjudged her based on misinformation.

To your larger point: It is not inherently incompatible with Catholicism to be a liberal Democrat, or even a liberal Repub, a conservative Democrat, a monarchist, an anarchist, an imperialist, an anti-colonialist, a tribalist, alibertarian or a socialist, IF --- I'd better put that in larger typeface, --*IF*--- one has cut off the pats of those "systems" that are incompatible with Catholicism, and not vice-versa. In other words, one can be a patriarchalist, but only a patriarchalist "as transformed by Christ"; one can be a feminist, but only a feminist "as transformed by Christ": it's not the Left or the Right or the patriarchal or the feminist that really matters: what matters is the transformation.

That's what Catholicism is ---what it has to be --- or it is nothing.

So this Sr. Simone, to the extent that she is being conformed to the mind of Christ, she's in the Church and she's approaching perfection: and --- although I'm quite different from her politically --- the same goes for me.

Now I don't know much what her whole political Thing consists of. (No. I didn't read the whole RNS article!! Eek.)If she's a pro-abort, she's gravely in the wrong. If she's a welfare-statist, that's something we'd have to argue about. The first issue is a moral absolute; the second is a different category, merely a prudential judgment. This distinction must be made: the Church is not a political party and does not have a political program. We do, however, have moral precepts, precepts which Christ teaches through His Church. which must not be violated.

I can't address your other points right now because it's past my bedtime. I'm up at 5 am tomorrow. But I did want to say that my initial "she's no Catholic" was not factually correct. It was a rash judgment based on misinformation on my part. This thing would take much more careful parsing.

Peace be with you. G'Night!

67 posted on 09/06/2012 6:39:03 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Do not be rash with your mouth, utter not anything hastily before God." Eccles 5:2)
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To: demsux

I am the only Catholic in my family.

The Catholic Church did not leave you.

You left the Catholic Church.

By the grace of God I was led to the Catholic Church in 2008 and I know that even though we have unfaithful Catholics, it does not mean that the Church isn’t true, it means that those unfaithful Catholics weren’t and aren’t true.

Come home. It’s a beautiful faith and worth it all.


68 posted on 09/06/2012 6:47:26 PM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore (If Obama were twice as smart as he is, he would be a wit)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Pope Benedict XVI lived under Nazism.

He is a great pope and is bringing the Church back to its mission.

I love him.


69 posted on 09/06/2012 6:51:13 PM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore (If Obama were twice as smart as he is, he would be a wit)
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To: NYer
And the Pope is checking in on you sisters.

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70 posted on 09/06/2012 7:48:14 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: PapaBear3625; wagglebee
I suspect her "Sisters of Social Service" is just a gathering place for feminist lesbian Marxists.

Well, she DOES have a wedding ring on.


71 posted on 09/07/2012 8:39:01 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The guy who was going to stop the rise of the oceans now canÂ’t even fend off a few raindrops.)
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