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Ann Barnhardt on Pope Francis ^ | March 14, AD 2013 | Ann Barnhardt

Posted on 03/15/2013 4:55:42 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

On Francis
Posted by Ann Barnhardt - March 14, AD 2013 10:34 AM MST

Let me start with a positive comment. Remember, this is the best I could come up with:

If we had gotten the pope we DESERVE, we would now have Pope Snoop Dogg.

And thus ends the positivity.

Francis, like his homeland of Argentina, is a total disaster. He has overseen the near-total destruction of the Church in Argentina. He hates and despises the Tridentine Mass, which is to say that he hates the Mass - let's not mince words, and is a rabid persecutor of anyone in Argentina who shows ANY signs of tradition. A priest in Argentina literally risks the end of his career if he wears a cassock in public. He has forbidden the Tridentine Mass in Argentina, which is an act of direct disobedience, specifically against the papal decree Summorum Pontificum, but embraces horrific "charismatic" and "Superfun Rockband"-type liturgical sacrilege.

Which brings us to his regard for the papacy, and the Church itself. He said yesterday in his bizarre little speech, again and again, that he was the Bishop of Rome, which is true, but in being the Bishop of Rome the pope is the head of the Universal Church, not just the city of Rome. Francis does not believe this, and even made a reference to the idea that the pope is "first among equals". This means that he regards the Church as a mere loose confederacy, and also that he thinks the Church is, or should be, a democracy. The proof of this is, again, his blatant disobedience to Summorum Pontificum. He will never do anything to clean up the sodomite infiltrators in the Church outside of Rome because he doesn't feel that the pope has any authority outside of Rome. Bottom line here: many bishops and archbishops have been kept in line over the past eight years because Benedict was relatively aggressive in booting out extremely bad bishops. Benedict was feared in a healthy way. This guy is basically the big green light to every Marxist-homosexualist to just go ahead and do whatever, because they know Francis will never remove them or even chastise them, because Francis doesn't believe that the pope has any universal authority and is merely the bishop of the city of Rome proper - at least that is the excuse that will be given when nothing is done about abuses and heresies **that Francis is sympathetic towards.**

BUT, like all insecure leaders who say that they reject authority and obedience, reports from Buenos Aires are that he is an iron-fisted totalitarian against traditionalists, precisely because he has no confidence in or respect for his own authority, and thus assumes that no one else does either, and thus wields power against his perceived enemies only from brute force. Again, this is TEXTBOOK 20th century Marxist worldview and psychology. It is also the diametrical opposite of the virtue of MEEKNESS, which is power under control.

Next, he is an "ecu-maniac", which is to say that he is in the "all religions are equal and can't we all just get along" camp. In Buenos Aires he knelt before and received the "blessing" of a Superfun Rockband Church "pastor", and even received "communion" from a Protestant. There are pictures floating around of that episode. This is terrifying. He clearly does not have a strong belief in or understanding of Our Lord, His Church, the Mass or the Real Presence of Our Lord in the Eucharist. But, as I have stated repeatedly, almost none of the men ordained in the 1960s, 70s or 80s do.

Next, he's a Jesuit. Now, I must disclose that I have a deep personal, seething, visceral hatred of Jesuits, but my hatred of them is a corollary to the fact that they long ago descended into truly evil heresies and apostasy. Jesuits, in addition to being a cult of sodomites who hate God, are also … wait for it … Marxists. Now Francis has in the past put up some token resistance to so-called "Liberation theology", which is just Communist Totalitarianism in religious drag, but he is huge, huge, huge on "social justice", which is merely code for Marxism. This guy's worldview revolves around giving people free stuff because it's nice, which as we have discussed is contrary to logic and reason, specifically in the subset of mathematics, and thus is contrary to Our Lord who is but FIRST the Logos, with the Divine Caritas (charity) proceeding out of the Logos. Bottom line, there will be zero positive assistance to the world from Francis with regards to the inevitable economic collapse. Not only will there be nothing helpful coming from him, he will almost certainly come out in favor of more debt, more "free stuff", and more rhetoric about how people are "entitled" to physical and service commodities (which are someone else's man-hours, remember) as "rights".

But Ann! He has gone on record against homosexual "marriage" and abortion!

Wow. Is this really how far we have sunk? The Roman pontiff is on record as being against sodomy and killing babies and we cite this as proof of ORTHODOXY? Really? I wonder if he also believes in gravity. Does belief in gravity constitute a conservative worldview now?

Benedict thought that between the "Natural Solution" (the passage of time yielding the death or retirement of the bad guys) and the appointments he was able to make over the last eight years that he had set up the College of Cardinals to elect a successor that was very much in the Ratzingerian camp. Benedict was wrong. Not only did they not elect a Ratzingerian, they elected the anti-Ratzinger. In the 2005 conclave Francis came in second to Ratzinger, which is to say that Francis was the "opposition". In what must have Benedict's mind reeling today, after eight years of purging and priming the College of Cardinals, the very men Ratzinger placed turned around and elected the anti-Ratzinger. This proves, as I have said all along, that playing prevent defense, namely the "natural solution" of waiting for the bad guys to die is UNSOUND. In war, you fix your bayonets, say your prayers, and you charge.

Tridentine Mass-goers and clergy, this guy will be on the warpath against us at some point. Prepare. Brace. He may attempt to undo Summorum Pontificum either directly or through intense passive aggression. Any hopes of reconciling the good guys in the SSPX is now totally over. Beyond that, the splinter factions will now claim that "they were right", and sadly even more schism will result, and more people will remain outside the Church. So sad.

We got what we deserved, and probably better than we deserve. God's chastisement of His people is sending them bad priests, bishops, and now, in all likelihood, a bad pope. What do you expect? Look around. The world is awash in staggering sin and blasphemy and no one will lift a finger to do anything about it. And, as my last essay on penance proved via my email box, no one is sorry or has any desire to make reparation to Our Lord for any of it. No one has the slightest comprehension of the notion of taking on the burden of guilt for sins that they didn't directly commit, which blows my mind because that is LITERALLY the ENTIRE POINT of the Incarnation. The mind reels at the collective obtuseness needed to miss that glaring point.

No one has the slightest comprehension of the idea of seeing Our Lord in agony and simply stepping over to Him and asking, "What can I do to help You? What can I do to make You feel better? Let me take some of Your burden. Let me go with You."

Nope. So long as we all leave Him alone in His Passion, He will leave us to our self-absorption and indifference.

Kyrie eleison. Christe eleison. Kyrie eleison.

Viva il Papa.

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To: WXRGina
Yes, and what Jesus says in no way confirms "catholicism," but rather warns against it.

Like this?

"And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it." --Jesus

"And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector." --Jesus

"if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth." --St. Paul

"I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me." --Jesus

61 posted on 03/15/2013 8:29:13 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: saywhatagain
But when someone with reason sounds an alarm, maybe, just maybe it's worth considering

I'm not a regular reader of Barnhart's stuff but I've read some of it in the past. I've never considered anything she wrote unworthy of reading until this article.

I fail to see the "reason" you speak of. All I saw was a long rant. And an admission of seething hate. I found her lacking reason because she didn't give any credible sources to substantiate her allegations. She didn't state facts objectively but resorted to biased, insulting descriptions. And while acting as if she's an authority on Christianity she displayed a complete lack of Christian charity. Any point she might have made was, for me, lost in her venom. A depth of venom that made her seem less focused and logical than anything I've previously seen from her. I don't recall reading anything especially objectionable from her in the past. But if this is how she'll be writing in the future, I'll take a pass on her articles whatever their subject. Peace be with you.

62 posted on 03/15/2013 8:41:20 PM PDT by PeevedPatriot
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To: saywhatagain

Am well travelled and have many liberal family members with whom I communicate.

Read recommendations and see they are the opposite of narrow.

I Don’t dismiss Ann, just don’t want nor need to see heer papal smear. That’s all.

63 posted on 03/15/2013 8:49:07 PM PDT by stanne
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To: sarasmom

Awesome reply. If nobody else chastised this idiot, I was going to do so, but I don’t think I can top yours.

64 posted on 03/15/2013 8:56:21 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: sgfan1212; stanne; BlatherNaut
Seems like there are plenty of FR newbies just lining up to bash ol' Ann. I notice none of you bother to counter her assertions - you just say "she is so mean!"

If you haven't bothered to read Ann's stuff, or know anything about her, let me give you a clue: she walks the walk, first of all, which is to say that she isn't just saying we should do this or that, she is doing it.

Second, she is deliberately blunt, because she seems to feel that capitulation, wishy-washiness, and lukewarm belief are some of the great plagues of our time, and the reason the Enemy is winning. The screeching I see from people on this thread seems to come mostly with the discomfort that blunt truth often brings. We'd all like to believe that everything is OK, and get upset when someone says, "Nope, things are horrible. We need to do something."

Lastly, Ann is fighting the good fight. I don't know if she is right about this particular issue, but on any given day, Ann is worth at least 10 of you conflict-averse newbies.
65 posted on 03/15/2013 9:14:23 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak

She’s wrong on this particular issue.

66 posted on 03/15/2013 9:17:13 PM PDT by stanne
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To: cookcounty

Royal Hawaiian it!!!

67 posted on 03/15/2013 9:26:32 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (I'm going Galt)
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To: mnehring
Yep, you kind of figured she had completely lost it when she called Jesuits “a cult of sodomites who hate God”.

I learned about Jesuits by living next to one in a college dormitory. Let's just say I overheard enough about lack of belief in God to not reject in toto what Ann is saying. The college was kind of a seedy backwater where the Jebbies sent some of their problems. I ran into one at the house of a female relative of a girl I was seeing (they were involved), one dressed like Count Dracula, another wrote movie reviews for Playboy and my dorm counselor claimed to be a pal of the Exorcist. Colorful bunch.

68 posted on 03/15/2013 9:29:50 PM PDT by Stentor (Shhhh!)
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To: stanne

Care to state why you think so?

69 posted on 03/15/2013 9:33:31 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: PeevedPatriot

Went back and re read considering yours and others perspective. Yeah I can see where those from the church taken aback. I give you that.

Being a non catholic, I gotta kinda agree with her on the Jesuit? part. Yes there are exceptions to everything, but in general, all the Jesuit priests I know in the public sector are . . . I want to say scum, but will be nice. They certainly do not share my values. Pretenders many of them, starting with the governor of California and those a holes in the 60's protesting for all things socialism/communism. He being from Argentina, he was in the middle of all that crap. Was he picked out because he withstood all of them. We can only pray.

70 posted on 03/15/2013 9:55:04 PM PDT by saywhatagain
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To: saywhatagain
Yeah I can see where those from the church taken aback.

FWIW I would feel the same about this article if it were written about any leader of any Christian denomination. Or Jewish or other peaceful religion as well. But most especially I feel this way because it's written by a self-identified Christian and its topic is another self-identified Christian. If an author can't show the charity of Christ her points are going to be lost on me because she is showing me she isn't bearing fruit of the Holy Spirit. That's my litmus test :) Zeal I can handle, even when it overexerts itself and bubbles all over the place. But this didn't feel like zeal. It felt like hate :( Thanks for your kind response. IMHO my best response for this woman is prayer, not condemnation.

71 posted on 03/15/2013 10:09:51 PM PDT by PeevedPatriot
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72 posted on 03/15/2013 10:15:42 PM PDT by saywhatagain
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To: PeevedPatriot

“... she didn’t give any credible sources to substantiate ...”

That doesn’t mean they don’t exist. Mentioned above is how the SP was implemented within 48 hours of its dissemination, but without details. It (TLM) was sited in a place described as a crypt, and sufficiently modified so that people stopped coming after a few weeks. As for the Jesuits, Malachi Martin explains their transformation in the 20th century in his book “The Jesuits.”

Some refer to Ann as being angry (perhaps true), although I see her passion, and perhaps frustration that other worthy candidates were overlooked.

73 posted on 03/15/2013 10:20:56 PM PDT by Daffy
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To: Daffy
That doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

I didn't say there are no sources to substantiate her points. I said she chose not to present any. An attack of that nature without much to back it up is hot air to me. Others are free to see it differently.

74 posted on 03/15/2013 10:26:55 PM PDT by PeevedPatriot
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To: fr_freak

I have

75 posted on 03/15/2013 11:52:36 PM PDT by stanne
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Most likely the new Pope will treat the old Tridentine mass as a “rite”, just as there are Eastern Catholic rites in the Church Ann.

76 posted on 03/16/2013 4:25:13 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Ingtar

Do not be surprised if he does the same for Cardinal Mahoney down the road as well and elevate Archbishop Gomez to the position of being a cardinal.

77 posted on 03/16/2013 4:29:20 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: basil

Who is Ann Barnhardt? Thank God the selection of the Pope is in God’s hands. That’s all I’m going to say about that.

78 posted on 03/16/2013 5:20:57 AM PDT by mgist
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To: Longbow1969

In Argentina, Father Bergoglio was disliked by leftist since the 70’s. That alone, says alot about him. Cardinal Bergoglio opposed the Socialist governments of both, husband and then wife, Kirshners, to the point of being accused being head of the opposition. His confrontation were things like contradicting government reports of poverty, with his own reports, reminding people that poverty had actually increased. Etc. My Argentinian friend says that Christina Kirshner tried to put him in jail. He is a threat to leftist liberals, and that is why the media is in a frenzy.

79 posted on 03/16/2013 5:46:53 AM PDT by mgist
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To: mgist

Message from screamin’ Argentinian Leftist and Nobel Peace Prize winner Adolfo Perez Esquivel’s website translated by Google translator:

“We welcome the appointment of the first Latin American pope in the history of the Catholic Church and its choice of name hopeful Francisco to pursue his papal period.

Hopefully you will work for justice and peace beyond the pressures and interests of world powers. Expect to put aside mistrust Vatican to prominence of the peoples in their liberation. And also encourage social transformations that have been ongoing in Latin America and elsewhere in the world, with the help of popular governments that try to overcome the night of neoliberalism.

We hope you have the courage to defend the rights of the people against the powerful, without repeating the grave mistakes, and sins, which was the Church. During the last dictatorship in Argentina the members of the Catholic Church had not homogeneous attitudes. It is undisputed that there was complicity of much of the church hierarchy in the genocide perpetrated against the people of Argentina, and although many with “excessive caution” silent efforts made to free the persecuted, few pastors who courageously and decisively took our human rights struggle against the military dictatorship. Jorge Bergoglio not think that has been complicit in the dictatorship, but I think he lacked courage to accompany our struggle for human rights in the most difficult moments.

I am traveling to Italy to celebrate another anniversary of the martyrdom of Archbishop Arnulfo Romero, a conservative minister against repression in El Salvador had his “Road to Damascus” to the people and gave his life for justice and peace. I hope also that the choice of the name Francisco, one of the most important saints of the Church, expressed in testimony of option and defense of the poor against the powerful and the defense of the environment.

Francois has not inherited an imperial throne chair but the humble fisherman. So we hope do not forget the words of Argentine martyr Bishop, Bishop Enrique Angelelli, when he said that “we have heard in the Gospel and one in the village, to know what God says. “

Peace and Good

Adolfo Perez Esquivel
Nobel Peace Prize

Adolfo Pérez Esquivel

“He disapproved of the European intervention in the Libyan civil war and warned against an intervention in Syria.[9] In the aftermath of the Death of Osama bin Laden, he sent a letter to President Barack Obama suggesting the United States killed rather than tried bin Laden because he may have revealed unsettling information about 9/11.[9] He argued, “You know that there are people who have investigated the tragic events of 9/11/2001 and claim there is evidence that this was a self-coup (self-inflicted attack).”[9] Later, he added, “This event was the perfect excuse to launch a war against Afghanistan and Iraq and now against Libya,” and referred to the United States an “axis of evil.”[9]”

Mr. Esquivel has been quoted in several recent articles defending the Pope against accusations of his involvement/non-involvement in the “Dirty War”.

The Leftist Jewish organizations ADL, AJC, B’nai B’rith and also Muslims also “welcome” the new pope.

New Pope “Friend of Argentina’s Muslims,” Didn’t Stem Tide of S America’s Largest Muslim Pop, 80%+ Lapsed Catholic Rate

Argentina ‘Dirty War’ accusations haunt Pope Francis

Hanukkah 2012: Argentine Catholics and Jews celebrate Hanukkah and Christmas t

Italian descent, higher education in Germany, appointed by JPII, an ecumenist in the same vein as JPII and PE Benedict.

Despite all the clatter about him being “conservative”, he is going to prove out as being a leftist. Sad.

80 posted on 03/16/2013 6:40:49 AM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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