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Vaticanís number 2: Priest celibacy up for discussion
The Daily Caller ^ | September 12, 2013 | Caroline May

Posted on 09/14/2013 9:37:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Vatican’s new secretary of state, Archbishop Pietro Parolin said this week that the issue of priest celibacy is not dogma and is therefore up for discussion.

“It’s not a church dogma and it can be discussed because it is a church tradition,” Parolin told the Venezuelan El Universal, according to a translation by the National Catholic Reporter.

“The work the church did to institute ecclesiastical celibacy must be considered,” said Parolin, who will officially assume the role of secretary of state in October. “We cannot simply say that it is part of the past. It is a great challenge for the pope, because he is the one with the ministry of unity and all of those decisions must be made thinking of the unity of the church and not to divide it.....

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: catholics; celibacy
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To: BigEdLB

Nonsense.

In the past fifty years, there have been only about five actual pedophile priests. The rest of the abusers have been abusers of minors.

The percentage of abusers among Catholic priests is lower than in most professions—much lower. Lower than the incidence of abuse among married clergy in other churches.

Being married does not “screen out” abusers. Married men abuse their own children at a higher rate than priests abuse children.

In other words, the Catholic Church does not have an especially acute problem with sexual abuse, and celibacy has nothing to do with it.


21 posted on 09/15/2013 12:22:13 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Unlike priestettes, it can be discussed. But it isn’t going to change.


22 posted on 09/15/2013 12:22:57 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

First they’ll drop celibacy, then they’ll grind out priests and priestesses who are entangled in a same-sex sham marriage.

The lawsuits charging pedophilia will become a mushroom cloud over the Vatican.

Who among us doesn’t honestly believe that a new religion was created subsequent to Vatican II? To what purpose? Why to finish off the Roman Catholic Church.

Satan has a lot of time on his hands until the Second Coming.

Jesus wept.


23 posted on 09/15/2013 4:03:24 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Celibacy wasn’t required until the middle ages and it came about as a practical response to priests bankrupting their congregations with their own large families that had to be provided for through offerings...

Celibacy is unnatural , I say the church should attract more into the priesthood and not less. The church is under attack by Muslims that are multiplying like rabbits and are taught by their “god” to start multiplying at age 9... Time we joined the battle.


24 posted on 09/15/2013 4:17:57 AM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: ansel12

There are many sources. Start with a Google search.


25 posted on 09/15/2013 5:37:50 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Discuss it all you want. It isn’t changing, and shouldn’t.


26 posted on 09/15/2013 6:07:21 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Francis is an interesting fellow.

He does present the possibility of being a Catholic Gorbachev, but I’m not sure the Holy Spirit has not already taken that risk into account.

We will see.


27 posted on 09/15/2013 6:10:24 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: ansel12; Salvation

Catholic apologists.

And we know that protestant churches and secular schools shuffle child rapists around to protect them from charges. Oh. Wait. That’s Rome that does that.


28 posted on 09/15/2013 6:12:49 AM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: lastchance

It won’t change.


29 posted on 09/15/2013 6:13:32 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
Well that makes it all better.

Catholics: Our Priest Rape Fewer Children!

Is that realy your best defense?

30 posted on 09/15/2013 6:17:34 AM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: Gamecock; Salvation
Add-on to your headline:

But Our Children Are More Traumatized! They ALL Believe They Are Going To Hell Because They Cannot Get Forgiveness Of Sins! Their Pedophyle Priests Told Them So!

31 posted on 09/15/2013 6:27:00 AM PDT by smvoice (The 2 greatest days of your life: the day you're born. And the day you discover why.)
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To: James C. Bennett

Were Jesus and Paul unnatural - since both were celibate and praised celibacy?


32 posted on 09/15/2013 7:37:00 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Yes.


33 posted on 09/15/2013 7:40:04 AM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Neidermeyer

“Celibacy is unnatural...”

So Jesus and St. Paul commended something that is unnatural?


34 posted on 09/15/2013 7:44:14 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: James C. Bennett

Wow. So, Jesus and St. Paul were unnatural?

Well, conversation beyond this point is fruitless. If someone, in a thread about the Church, is going to say Jesus and St. Paul are unnatural, then there’s really nowhere else to go.


35 posted on 09/15/2013 7:47:24 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: al_c

No, you post the sources that can show us that fathers and Christian leaders are the “the most probable pedophiles”.


36 posted on 09/15/2013 7:57:33 AM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet. Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: ansel12
Don't be lazy. Here's a simple google search for you.
37 posted on 09/15/2013 8:04:04 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: Gamecock

The issue is about denominations. “Protestant” doesn’t say much when comparing other denominations to the single Catholic denomination.

Besides, what about homosexuality, do all denominations have as many homosexual ministers as the Catholics?

I think there is a question of a system that attracts homosexual men to it.


38 posted on 09/15/2013 8:09:17 AM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet. Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: al_c

It seems clear that you can’t post the quotes from the sources that can show us that fathers and Christian leaders are the “the most probable pedophiles”.


39 posted on 09/15/2013 8:12:07 AM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet. Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: ansel12

It seems clear that you don’t want to bother looking up the information that’s out there.


40 posted on 09/15/2013 8:31:37 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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