Are We Really Catholic Bashing?

reachingcatholics.org ^ | Unknown | Mike Gendron

[WXRGina]

Not the point of my post, of course, to FReeper Cynical Bear, as you know. But, no worries. Carry on.

[jodyel]

Thanks for your post, NKP.

[jodyel]

I see. Interesting.

Thanks, smvoice.

[jodyel]

Then please do go.

And thanks for posting as always.

[jodyel]

Thanks, salvation, for posting.

God bless you,
jodyel

[jodyel]

Thanks yet again.

[jodyel]

Correct, no religion.

Thanks for posting again.

[jodyel]

You are more than welcome, mlizzy, to debate and argue and defend as much as you like on anything I post. I just won’t be drawn into it anymore.

Go your way does not mean go away by any means. It just means you are free to believe as you like and I won’t try to dissuade you anymore.

I will wait on those the Spirit draws to me.

God bless you,
jodyel

[MHGinTN]

Selah!

[Nervous Tick]

>> I suspect that my Protestant brothers and sisters will have less need for Purgatory: those 1-hour sermons are punishment enough...

;-)

Hey, I LIKE good preaching!

By the way, I have found nearly all of Pope Francis’s sermons (or homilies or whatever y’all call them) to be profitable. And I absolutely LOVE (Archdiocese of Washington) Msgr. Charles Pope’s blog. Lots of good stuff there.

[boatbums]

It is sad that many Catholics here see any attempt to point out errors in the Roman Catholic faith as "bashing" or "anti-Catholic hatred" and "bigotry". Yet, they repeatedly post threads and comments that do the same things against those who are Christians but not Roman Catholic. I've been a member for eight years now and the SAME arguments keep cropping up from some of the SAME people that have been debated in the past.

As the rules of Open Religion Forum threads explain, it's a "town square" atmosphere and those who cannot tolerate opposing viewpoints should stay off the threads and stick to Caucus ones, instead. If people want to participate, they need to put on their big boy/girl knickers and respectfully discuss their views. Claiming "bashing" and "hatred" is just childish.

[boatbums]

Why do we only see Catholics getting worked up about threads that address errors in their religion - and whine about persecution and bashing being done to them - but not a peep from the same when a Catholic posts a thread calling all non-Catholic Christians bound for hell because they aren’t Catholic??? Quite the double standard being exhibited tonight!

[mlizzy]

Your indoctrination is thorough and you are convinced that everything they have told to is the only way that you can be saved...I have sent you Scriptures which directly refute your thoughts about saints and their abilities, and you come back with church dogma. That will send you straight to hell, yes.

Well, BS on that! I may serve years and years in purgatory, but I am not going to hell, unless I leave my Jesus; shame on you for even suggesting it. And I never suggested a non-Catholic couldn't be saved. Do you even understand the faith? What does Jesus mean when He says the following?

25* When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and said, “Who then can be saved?” 26* Jesus looked at them and said, “For human beings this is impossible, but for God all things are possible.” --Matthew: 25,26

And I do not know why anyone would insist the saints are dead. They are alive [for an eternity] and they reside in heaven.

"Is it possible that there are souls who do not understand what the Blessed Eucharist is? Who are insensible to the Divine Presence.....to the mysterious and fervent effusions of the Sacred Heart of my Jesus? O Heart of Jesus! Heart of love!" "Yesterday, in the presence of Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament I felt myself burning so fiercely that I had to go away. I felt stunned that so many could stay so close to Jesus and not be reduced to ashes. I felt that I would be consumed. Jesus is such a sweet and irresistible Lover; how can one fail to love Him with one's whole heart and soul? How can one not wish to be wholly united in Him, and consumed in the flames of His holy love?" --St. Gemma Galgani

[mlizzy]

It is sad that many Catholics here see 'any' attempt to point out errors in the Roman Catholic faith as "bashing" or "anti-Catholic hatred"...If people want to participate, they need to put on their big boy/girl knickers...Claiming "bashing" and "hatred" is just childish.

As Mother Teresa once said [and it's a paraphrase], "The [Catholic] Church will always have its problems, but the faith, itself, is without flaw..." So maybe that's why some Catholics call certain dialogue [slamming the faith] as "bashing."

Personally, I find your commentary condescending to Catholics. And sometimes I wonder if you have a life [outside of Free Republic] that is filled with the beauty and love of the Christianity you keep espousing.

[WVKayaker]

Your indoctrination is thorough and you are convinced that everything they have told to is the only way that you can be saved...I have sent you Scriptures which directly refute your thoughts about saints and their abilities, and you come back with church dogma. That will send you straight to hell, yes. -wvk

You're right lizzy, and I apologize for that last remark as it's not up to me where someone ends up. However, you certainly cannot find any scriptural basis for the Catholic idea of purgatory. It just isn't there. As for your quote from Matthew (which didn't bother to say what chapter it would be found), what does that have to do with the price of eggs?

Again, you place emphasis when you ask, do I understand “the faith”. But you obviously mean the organization referred to as the Roman Catholic Church where you place your faith. That is where the problem really begins.

You see, I do have faith, a profound faith in Jesus Christ and can know that God has declared me to be a sinner. I admit it, I am a sinner, just like Paul spoke of himself numerous times in various letters which we call it Epistles. But just like Paul, I'm not concerned in the least about my future place with God. I have complete assurance that even though I am a putrid man on this earth, that by the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, through faith, God no longer sees my sin and has given me a total wash in redemption. I am fully cleansed from the bonds of sin and the law.

You can remain right where you are, and I will lose no sleep. I rest soundly, sleeping every night. I can do that because I believe in Jesus. You cannot provide Scripture that will justify everything your church claims. Even in your responses to me, you continue to spout church dogma and doctrine, and use Scripture without context. Your organization does a great job of indoctrination, and it starts from birth placing all of the legalistic requirements which will lead directly to the pits. I'm not saying there aren't some Roman Catholics who will be saved, but those that rely on your mother church and all of its misplaced ideas, unfounded in the word of God, should know that there is not going to be anybody that can pray them out of hell.

There is no purgatory. You either make it into heaven by the grace and mercy of God through faith in Christ Jesus, or you risk eternal separation. Eternity is a long, long, long, long, long, long time.

You may think that posting some woman's picture you including some nice words can help someone discover God's truth. If that woman is one of the Catholic saints, she's dead. That would be the last place Truth will be found. Look towards the first and most important place in God. Have a nice life. I am assured of my salvation and will continue to post truth against the heresies from Rome.

Romans 7: ...21 So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; 23 but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? 25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!

Romans 8: 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36 As it is written:

“For your sake we face death all day long;
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”

37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. - Paul

AMEN! -wvk

[WVKayaker]

Quite the double standard being exhibited tonight!

Quite Always the double standard being exhibited tonight!

There, fixed it for you.

if they didn't have a double standard, they would have no standards at all. They can only rely on what their church says. We who have learned to walk in the Spirit, really have it pretty easy. We don't have to let a bunch of candles or rattle a bunch of beads. We don't have to rely on some dead guy to try and bend God's ear.

We know that God is in control. We can rest and rely on the Holy Spirit to do his work. Our work is to believe, and the works that we provide when we offer the Scriptures, are just one of those fruits, specifically love. So, I can just offer encouragement, and tell you that we are not alone. These Catholics are still living under bondage. We are free, free at last!

Ehesians 6 10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people. 19 Pray also for me, that whenever I speak, words may be given me so that I will fearlessly make known the mystery of the gospel, 20 for which I am an ambassador in chains. Pray that I may declare it fearlessly, as I should

[jodyel]

Thank you, boatbums.

I certainly do not consider myself a bigot of any kind, and only desire them to come to Jesus.

The Spirit will move on those He will.

God bless,
jodyel

[jodyel]

Well, guys, we were all there once upon a time.

And I bet some of us fought tooth and nail before we were brought under submission to the Lord.

So, let us “count it all joy” and manifest the Spirit of the Lord to them and to others, keeping in mind who the real enemy is and that he has already been defeated.

Ephesians 6:12
King James Version (KJV)

12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

God bless you all,
jodyel

[jodyel]

http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/0251.htm

The Necessity of the Spirit’s Work

[jodyel]

I don’t advocate either, BeadCounter.

I also don’t advocate ecumenism.

Thanks for posting.