Posted on 10/01/2013 5:35:33 PM PDT by Colofornian
One of the Twelve Apostles in the New Testament, a son of Zebedee, and a brother of James. In his early life he was a fisherman (Mark 1:17–20). He is probably the unnamed disciple of John the Baptist mentioned in John 1:40. Later he received a call to be a disciple of Jesus Christ (Matt. 4:21–22; Luke 5:1–11). He wrote the Gospel of John, three epistles, and the book of Revelation. He was one of three who were with the Lord at the raising of Jairus’s daughter (Mark 5:35–42), at the Mount of Transfiguration (Matt. 17:1–9), and in Gethsemane (Matt. 26:36–46). In his own writings he refers to himself as the disciple whom Jesus loved (John 13:23; 21:20) and as the “other disciple” (John 20:2–8). Jesus also called him and his brother Boanerges, “sons of thunder” (Mark 3:17). There are frequent references to him in the accounts of the crucifixion and resurrection (Luke 22:8; John 18:15; 19:26–27; 20:2–8; 21:1–2). John was later banished to Patmos, where he wrote the book of Revelation (Rev. 1:9).
John is mentioned frequently in latter-day revelation (1 Ne. 14:18–27; 3 Ne. 28:6; Ether 4:16; D&C 7; 27:12; 61:14; 77; 88:141). These passages confirm the biblical record of John and also provide insight into his greatness and the importance of the work the Lord has given him to do on the earth in New Testament times and in the last days. The latter-day scriptures clarify that John did not die but was allowed to remain on the earth as a ministering servant until the time of the Lord’s second coming (John 21:20–23; 3 Ne. 28:6–7; D&C 7).
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Ten years ago, a Mormon FReeper had claimed that the term "Christian" came into use after the apostasy had occurred. That places the falling away as occurring during the Acts Of The Apostles (specifically prior to Acts 11:26), since that is where the Bible records Jesus' followers were "first called Christians". If that is true, then the apostasy began less than eight years after Christ's ascension, the LDS' Melchizidek Priesthood was stripped away from the Apostles themselves for the majority of their ministry, and most (if not all) of the New Testament, which was written by the Apostles, was written during their apostasy from Jesus Christ.
The Mormons I know disdain the teachings of the Apostle Paul, and many doubt that he was actually an Apostle since he never followed Jesus while Jesus was alive on earth, and that by the time Saul became Paul, the apostasy had already occured.
yeah they are all getting their own planet when they do croak too
Women in Mormonism are second class citizens treated just as badly as Muslim women, excepting the burka.
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You’ll have to point me to the articles wherein honor killings of Mormon women are printed. I’ve not encountered them.
Again, point me to the honor killing section. Nothing at your link suggests honor killing.
I love 3 nephite stories. All my friends raised LDS had at least one in their families. Us converts weren’t so lucky.
no surprise there
They shun, but they are still treated like chattel. Women are totally subservient to the men.
BINGO
They shun, but they are still treated like chattel. Women are totally subservient to the men.
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Which is a very different statement than your original which suggested that the Mormons women are “treated just as badly as Muslim women”.
Not really. They are treated as badly and as the link CC posted, there have been honor killings in Mormonism. Read the Book.
Women are condemned to wait outside while their husbands are made apostles, women are told how to dress, act, think, and are subservient to their 12 yr old priesthood holding sons.
You haven’t been a Mormon woman, you don’t know the oppression.
Bingo back atcha!
You haven’t been a Mormon woman, you don’t know the oppression.
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Well, you sure got me on that one.
How long were you a Muslim woman? You must have been one given your statement above.
Well...we can readily trace what Mormon leaders have said about women & marriage:
19th century Mormon men reduced marriage to a "breeding" mentality: At a stake conference, LDS leader Cannon of the First Presidency [Mormonism's HIGHEST hiearchy] said:
The people of the world do not believe in breeding, but we do. So the people of the world will die out and we will fill the whole earth. I admit those raising children by plural wives are not complying with man-made laws, but in the sight of God they are not sinning, as there is no sin in it. (George Q. Cannon, Sanpete Stake conference, Sept., 1899. Smoot Investigation, Vol. 1, p. 9.) [BTW, fLDS still cite this LDS source]
Reducing wives to “one of the cows” is long-term Mormon male tradition!
“I think no more of taking another wife than I do of buying a cow, and if you want to build up the kingdom you must take more wives.” (Lds “apostle” Heber C. Kimball, quoted in Jennie Anderson Froiseth, ed., The Women of Mormonism: or the Story of Polygamy As Told by the Victims Themselves, 1886; see Abanes, One Nation Under Gods, p. 295)
Kimball had about 45 wives...and was one of the TOP THREE hierarchists in the Mormon church -- a "counselor" in "the First Presidency" with Brigham Young.
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