Posted on 12/14/2013 8:40:07 PM PST by ebb tide
Pope Francis may have been named Time magazine's Person of the Year, but he has come under scathing criticism from a growing number of traditionalist Catholics for cracking down on a religious order that celebrates the old Latin Mass. The case has become a flashpoint in the ideological tug-of-war going on in the Catholic Church over Francis' revolutionary agenda, which has thrilled progressives and alarmed some conservatives. The matter concerns the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate, a small but growing order of several hundred priests, seminarians and nuns that was founded in Italy in 1990 as an offshoot of the larger Franciscan order of the pope's namesake, St. Francis of Assisi.
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This is not an infallible teaching and people have every right to disagree.
Our prayer books are printed with Latin on one side and English on the other, it is very simple to pray the Latin Mass. After a while one learns the Latin as well. The Catholic Church is Universal so one liturgical language makes sense.
The priest faces the altar and tabernacle when he is addressing God and not us.
-— so one liturgical language makes sense. -—
It also reverses the punishment for building the Tower of Babel, which is appropriate for Christ’s Church.
Indeed it does.
Not sure if you’re being sarcastic or not. However, I tend to believe that for most Catholics on this forum it wouldn’t matter what media it was. If it states anything against Francis it is totally the media’s fault.
It’s not someone, it’s something: Modernism via Vatican II.
That was what Pentecost was all about, bringing people to Jesus in their own language.
AMEN.
Please see post number 48. Thank-you.
There are different rites, but the traditional Latin rite is not considered a different rite from the Latin rite. What we have right now is an updated version of the Tridentine Latin rite.
There are Traditional Tridentine churches throughout the country completely in line with Rome and then there are ones who have all the bells and whistles and yet disregard the Pope. Those are the ones that Pope Francis is talking about.
The distinction must be made.
False antiquarianism. To say this, is to say that the Church was wrong to use Latin for hundreds of years. Was it?
>>The Jesuits have since been cleaned up.<<
Of course they have. Just look at how orthodox Georgetown University has become.
Why are you believing stuff that comes from Time Magazine?
The media tells the truth when it says what most want to hear.
Including Time Magazine, Catholic News Service, Vatican Insider, etc.?
What would you like to move on to? Pravda?
This is what is Biblical, however, unlike in NT Christianity, Scripture is not the supreme authority for Catholics, nor actual warrant necessary, but as which cults such as Mormonism, the church is supreme and incontrovertible based upon her own self-proclaimation to be so.
Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me. (1 Corinthians 14:11)
Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest? (1 Corinthians 14:16)
“All I will say as a Protestant, is that ABC only has evil intentions in all this; the same intentions that TIME Magazine has.”
Self Justification.
They cling to anything they can take out of context for this reason. They are Pharisees.
I had to clarify my awful sentence from post #33 a bit.
Direct quotes? Links?
Pope Francis never suggested toleration of abortion, active homosexuality or goddesses.
Or perhaps you're not referring to Pope Francis. Volpi, maybe.
Let's let the Catholics fight amoungst themselves this time!!
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