Why there will be war

Renew America ^ | 12-27-13 | Sylvia Thompson

[Biggirl]

Revolt is coming.

[Nervous Tick]

Yes, this has been posted before.

Please post it again, and again, and again! Until EVERYONE has read it.

It’s not an easy read — but it’s an extremely profitable read.

Thanks to both of you for introducing me to this wonderful author. She completely nails all the critical issues that Christian conservatives grapple with.

FRegards

[bramps]

The man has no concept for Christ's teaching:

Matthew 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: 28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

---

Using your misguided logic heterosexuality is also sin. If being a homosexual implies that you automatically lust after men (and therefore sin), doesn't being a heterosexual mean that you automatically lust after women (and therefore sin)?

Is an alcoholic who never touches alcohol a sinner simply because he is an alcoholic?

[RegulatorCountry]

There are such things as sinful thoughts. We’re fallen, all of us, we’re incapable of not sinning.

[stinkerpot65]

Not so sure the “masses” of Americans any longer stand for morality. If amnesty passes, the moral will be a permanent minority, doomed to persecution.

[tjd1454]

Not having seen the tape, it appears that the priests were making separate points that complemented rather than contradicted that of the other.

The first priest's point seemed to be that it is not sinful to be tempted. As a married father, I can be tempted to commit adultery, but so long as I do not give in to that temptation or encourage it, but rather resist it, I have not sinned. The same is true for someone who, for whatever reason (often due to childhood sexual abuse) suffers from homosexual attraction, but through prayer and devotion successfully resists those attractions, and seeks healing from such attractions.

The second priest was referring to Church teaching, which rightly considers homosexual attraction to be "disordered," i.e., homosexual attraction is contrary to the Divine plan for humankind. Once again, if those attractions are not acted upon, no sin has been committed. However, those with homosexual attractions should make every effort to seek healing from such attractions and the development of godly heterosexual attraction.

Full disclosure: I did my Ph.D. - from a Jesuit university - on this subject from a biblical perspective. BTW I am not Catholic but have a deep respect for the Church.

[tjd1454]

Postscript: I neglected to make clear that there is a difference between being tempted and lusting. As taught by our Lord, if someone “lusts in their heart” they have already committed sin. However, it is not a sin to be tempted to sin. One must embrace the temptation and act upon it - either by lusting or actually committing the act.

[firebrand]

I thought I might add a folksy metaphor I read somewhere that helps distinguish between having an attraction and lusting: A temptation is like a spark that lands on your jacket sleeve. If you immediately brush it off, no harm is done. If you don’t, it burns a hole in your sleeve and has done some damage.

Might have been Robert Schilling or a similar writer.

[max americana]

Nah, don’t give up. We need conservative parents who will do the task of carrying the country. Ask the many Freeper parents here.

Me, on the other hand. I’m still young and don’t have any reason to get married.

[fella]

The time of tolerating the intolerable is almost past. To every time there is a season.

[Rome2000]

Sending your kids to leftist indoctrination camps run by perverted communist scumbags (public skools) is a form of child abuse.

If you can swing the cost, send them to Judeo Christian run schools or if not home school them.

Its way past time for the right to declare war on public schools

[fwdude]

With respect to the author's points, the WAR was waged in the 1960's and we lost like cowards. This was the initial, open push by the Left to remake American society, when, first, mainstream academia, and then the culture acquiesced to the onslaught. Now, even supposed conservatives adopt the worldview of the left established in that era, as we wink at co-habitation, devour the obscene music and entertainment spawned in that decade, and then shrug our shoulders at the fallout.

We often forget how horrific the scene was back then. Please read Robert Bork's Slouching Toward Gomorrah for a front row seat to the demonic debacle. That culture has only become ensconced in places of power in the ensuing decades.

[Rome2000]

No changes are permanent, only change is.

[lavaroise]

When their lives will be ruined by Obama, where else are they going to turn? Some for a free handout in anger that wont come through and others to better things for the after life and into future generations.

[Biggirl]

....Or having to revolt back.

[Biggirl]

Thankfully it will not last.

[vladimir998]

I think you’re missing the point. The Church condemns homosexuality as a disorder. It does not believe that a fleeting homosexual desire is sinful on the part of the person, however, because it proceeds from a disorder which he (or she) does not control. To act on, or to nourish, that desire IS SINFUL, however. The Church applies the same principle to heterosexuals. If a normal, healthy man has a fleeting thought pass through his mind about how attractive he finds his best friend’s wife that can be problematic but not inherently sinful. When he dwells on it to the point of lust or inordinate desire, then it is sinful.

[vladimir998]

By the way, I should point out that the Church - relying on scripture - lists the “sin of Sodom” as one of the sins which cries out to heaven for vengeance. http://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/articles.cfm?id=29

[Bigg Red]

Well said and so true.

[OKSooner]

" I refer here to the Fox News commentator Greta Van Susteren's question to former governor Sarah Palin on a recent "On the Record" show. She asked Palin if it would not have been better if Mr. Robertson had said what he said differently. That attitude, which is shared by others of Ms. Van Susteren's leftist cohorts on Fox and throughout the culture, is insufferably hubristic. We, who oppose their worldview, must now speak our opposition only in ways that they approve. "

Now Greta's an @$$#01e?

Pffft. Lost me right there.