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Chris Thurman Respond to Michael Brown: Yes, evangelicals, it is foolish to support Trump
Christian Post ^ | 12/10/2019 | Chris Thurman

Posted on 12/10/2019 8:48:01 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 12/10/2019 8:48:01 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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Not a rational thought in this whole infantile hysteric hate based rant

The ones who are the fools are the bitter Never Trumpers and Neo Pharisees pushing this ignorant nonsense

Romans 3:23 New International Version (NIV)

23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Is Trump perfect? No, far far from it but then SO TOO are these bombastic poser using their pompous religiosity as an excuse to condemn him politically

Most of the Left anti God agenda has not been legislative, it been imposed by Courts. Most notable, Abortion and Gay Marriage.

On Judges alone Trump has done a better job of protecting Christians then the last 4 Presidents combined


2 posted on 12/10/2019 8:52:16 AM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why are we still being assailed by authors whose TDS informs their opinions & their writings?


3 posted on 12/10/2019 8:52:46 AM PST by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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RE: Why are we still being assailed by authors whose TDS informs their opinions & their writings?

So that readers can REFUTE THEM.


4 posted on 12/10/2019 8:54:39 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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Simple test. Which spirit in being expressed by Chris here?

Galatians 5:19-23 New International Version (NIV)

19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

5 posted on 12/10/2019 8:54:43 AM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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Why post this?


6 posted on 12/10/2019 8:58:13 AM PST by TakebackGOP
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To: SeekAndFind

David was such a flawed leader, anyone who thinks well of him is a fool. We should throw out the whole Book of Psalms, just to be sure we have gotten rid of the ones he wrote. How could anyone think G-d could use such a terrible human being! Thank goodness we moderns are smarter than that. /sarc


7 posted on 12/10/2019 9:00:09 AM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Did not read. Just thought I’d let you know.


8 posted on 12/10/2019 9:00:21 AM PST by angmo
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RE: Why post this?

So readers can refute the author. WITH REASON and EVIDENCE.


9 posted on 12/10/2019 9:01:44 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind
elected to the presidency who truly shares our core values as Christians.

It a binary poltical system. It is either Trump or the Democrat. The Democrat's radical secular agenda with it hyper advocacy for both Homosexuality and Abortion are not Christian values Chris "Neo Pharisee" Thurman. You are so blinded by your ignorant infantile hate of Trump you do not see just how willingly a tool of evil you are becoming.

10 posted on 12/10/2019 9:01:55 AM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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But why do they need to be refuted individually?
They belong to a class, they argue as a class; once their statements admit them to that class they can & have been refuted as a class.
We don’t need to refute every communist individually, every rapist, every mugger. We establish they belong in those categories & we deal with them accordingly.


11 posted on 12/10/2019 9:02:26 AM PST by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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To: SeekAndFind

He doesn’t post on Free Republic.


12 posted on 12/10/2019 9:05:11 AM PST by TakebackGOP
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To: SeekAndFind

Why the #### do you feel we need to REFUTE them after 3 years??

Unless you are insecure in YOUR FEELINGS FOR TRUMP

i wont call you a concern troll because i hate the term.

I DO FEEL you have SERIOUS misgiving about Trump and it’s not a CRIME to say it.

Get some courage for God’s sake


13 posted on 12/10/2019 9:05:15 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: SeekAndFind
Thurman is a left-wing psychologist living in Austin. His over-the-top hatred of Trump has nothing to do with Christianity and everything to do with politics. That he pretends it's about Christianity is despicable.


14 posted on 12/10/2019 9:06:00 AM PST by Cinnamontea
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To: SeekAndFind

Gideon was not perpetually righteous. Neither was David. Neither was Jehu. Neither was Peter, who lead the western church, nor Thomas, who took the gospel to Iraq and India. Neither was Charles Martel, nor Richard the Lion-Heart, nor Takayama Ukon.

Trump is God’s warrior-leader for this time. I stand with Trump. In hoc signo vinces!


15 posted on 12/10/2019 9:09:48 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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I didn’t vote for a saint, I voted for someone to make America great again.


16 posted on 12/10/2019 9:11:57 AM PST by Kharis13
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As I said during 2016:

Trump is not a Perfect Man.

Jesus is not on the ballot, so none of the candidates is perfect.

The ONLY relevant question is: WHICH of the candidates actually running is likely to advance an agenda which would please me more than the rest of the candidates?

Trump, for all his faults, is getting more positive work done, particularly with the judiciary, than any of the alternatives.


17 posted on 12/10/2019 9:12:42 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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Lol. A psychologist. And thus the personification of true evil.


18 posted on 12/10/2019 9:16:13 AM PST by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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“Chris Thurman, Ph.D., is a psychologist and author of The Lies We Believe.” and a simpleton who cannot understand the difference between right and wrong.


19 posted on 12/10/2019 9:16:42 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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Please, take me up on my challenge. Give me one single example of a true positive trait in our current president. Go to the Fruits of the Spirit (love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control). Do any apply to Trump?

He loves his country, he loves those who love their country too, he loves children, he loves his family, he loves dogs... he doesn't throw ashtrays in anger, doesn't treat servants or guards or military like they are inferior, and in spite of his power he has demonstrated amazing forbearance/self control with regard to using any of it against his many enemies, all of whom are the 'right' enemies.

Go to the Beatitudes (poor in spirit, meek, mournful, thirsting for righteousness, merciful, pure of heart, a peacemaker, persecuted for righteousness sake). Do any of the these apply to Trump?

Yes, actually they do, especially the persecution part, which is largely because he has stood against abortion...and the peaceful part in that he has not launched an unprovoked attack on Kosovo or Libya.

Can the author say the same about himself regarding unprovoked attacks?

Go to the Ten Commandments (no other gods before God, no graven images/no worshipping them, don’t use God’s name in vain, remember the Sabbath, honor your father and mother, do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not bear false witness against your neighbor, and do not covet you neighbor’s house, wife, servants, or anything that belongs to him or her). Has Trump spent his life trying to obey these commandments or regularly breaking them with no sign of godly sorrow that leads to repentance? I think Brown and all those who support Trump know the answer to these questions but are simply unwilling to admit it.

I've seen no evidence that the author or anyone else out there save Jesus Christ has done a better job or a worse one than Trump when it comes to the commandments. Go ahead, try throwing that first stone if you are so righteous, Trump is not running against Christ in 2020, he's running against people who act demonically, willing to dismember children for sale in the marketplace, for crying out loud.

20 posted on 12/10/2019 9:17:10 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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