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Why Christians Don't Understand Non-Christians
ArGee | 1/3/01 | ArGee

Posted on 01/03/2002 11:19:13 AM PST by ArGee

A very rich man decided that he wanted to show kindness to the people of the fair city where he lived. Since he was very rich indeed, he decided to throw a banquet for the entire city. He rented the largest sports arena in the city and began his plans. He planned for huge amounts of the best food possible, making allowances for every religious and medical diet. He advertised the banquet in every possible manner - television, radio, billboard, door-to-door canvassing. Considering that there might be some who could not travel, he arranged for free bus transportation to and from the event, and some special-needs vehicles for all who could not ride busses. He even scheduled the banquet to run for 24 hours a day for several days so that everyone could be sure of being served.

He planned long and hard and finally the big day came. The rich man ate quickly and then went about wishing all his guests well and personally making sure that all had every need met. After a while he went outside to tour the grounds and talk with those who had not yet gone in, and those who had already left. Everyone was happy. Many were profusely thankful. It was a glorious occasion.

At one point the rich man noticed a group of people sitting outside a locked door with most unpleasant looks on their faces. Sensing they were not happy, he went over to them. He did not introduce himself but simply asked them if he could be of service.

"We want to go in through this door," one of them replied.

The rich man explained to them that the hall was arranged to feed a large number of people as quickly and effortlessly as possible. This required order inside, and the entrances and exits had been carefully planned to be as efficient as possible. He then offered to go call one of the golf carts that were avaialbe to help people who could not walk far to take them to the entrance. But the man replied, "We do not want to go in the entrance. We want to go in this door. We don't understand why we can't go in any door we wish. We think the man who set this banquet up is mean and hateful for insisting we go in through the entrance. He has tried to bill himself as a very kind man by offering this banquet, but he is not kind at all if he will not indulge us and let us go through this door.

The rich man was distressed at these words, but still attempted to please these people. He tried once more to explain to them what was behind this particular door, and how if they went in this door they would disrupt the meal service being offered inside. He offered to drive them himself, not only to the door, but inside the hall to their tables if they would only go through the entrance to enjoy the meal. Again the man said, "No, but only a hateful man would keep us from going through the door of our choosing. And we will sit here and tell anyone who will listen to us what an awful man he is until he lets us in."

At that the rich man was enraged and he shouted, "Enough." Then he called a police officer to have them thrown off of the property and ordered that they not be allowed to return until the banquet was over and all the scraps had been hauled away. Then, mourning for their loss, he turned to visit with other guests.


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To: fourdeuce82d
""what if that's the case for christianity? What if we die and we find out the guys who worship rocks were right?""

Then you will be a very rich man....we got lotsa rocks.
121 posted on 01/03/2002 1:00:04 PM PST by 1 FELLOW FREEPER
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To: lexcorp
Curiously enough, this "Father" of yours doesn't seem to be the only one in the field with "messages."

This is true, but if you open your heart you will know His voice. It is very distinct and easy to hear.

Open your heart.

Shalom.

122 posted on 01/03/2002 1:00:12 PM PST by ArGee
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To: ArGee
Leave the what-if's for the fantasy writers. Let's talk about what is.

Actually... I am a fantasy writer (unpublished, as yet, but still....). Want to talk about the what if's? 8>)

123 posted on 01/03/2002 1:01:03 PM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: ArGee
Christianity requires that you accept the reign of Jesus in your life. If you reject that reign, you will go to the place where He does not reign. It will be your choice. I'm just curious why you would make that choice? What has that place got that Heaven hasn't got?

The arrogance in your reply answers the rhetorical question of this thread.

Why would anyone concern themselves with heaven or hell until there is proof that either exists?

I will make you a millionaire. All you have to do is send me 10% of your money and have faith. If you do not become a millionaire it is because you did not send me the money or you did not have enough faith.

Honestly, don't you find that argument a bit weak?

Even if I add the argument that if you do not send me your money and have enough faith then you will spend eternity burning in a lake of fire the argument is still weak.

Especially if I cannot show you a lake of fire with someone in it burning.

124 posted on 01/03/2002 1:01:19 PM PST by eFudd
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To: ArGee
Ah, a man with a reasonable mind....touche.
125 posted on 01/03/2002 1:01:49 PM PST by 1 FELLOW FREEPER
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To: Magician
We have our own more open and accessable paths to where we want to go in this life and in the next.

Notice that the Rich man was not forcing anyone inside. While others may have tried in his name (not mentioned in the story)....he did not.

126 posted on 01/03/2002 1:02:13 PM PST by sayfer bullets
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To: LuvItOrLeaveIt
The Bible is God’s word, and it can be demonstrated far beyond any doubt, that the book was not written by mere men. So, it records claims of Jesus, either what he said was 100% the truth or nothing he said is true. No one logically can pick and choose which things Christ said; that they will agree is true. There is no middle ground.
127 posted on 01/03/2002 1:02:21 PM PST by soundsolutions
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To: MassExodus
God didn't open the doors to Heaven and let me in, He opened the doors to Hell and let me out.
OOooooh! (hairs stand up on arm!)

This bears repeating......

God didn't open the doors to Heaven and let me in, He opened the doors to Hell and let me out.


No, it needs to be shouted!!!

God didn't open the doors to Heaven and let me in,
He opened the doors to Hell and let me out.


128 posted on 01/03/2002 1:02:53 PM PST by Elsie
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To: ArGee
Excellent post.

Our local Christian radio station ran an add about a year ago with much the same story. It was played out as a deadly disease that was killing everyone (sin) but the King had a cure and, although it was a very costly cure, He offered to pay it for everyone who would come and receive it. All they had to do was come through the door He designated. As in your story, there were those who complained loudly to anyone who would hear how "unfair" it was that the King who was providing the cure for the fatal disease wouldn't just let them enter His courts any old way they pleased.

There is only one road to heaven and God has been gracious enough to point it out clearly to us.

Peace.

129 posted on 01/03/2002 1:03:38 PM PST by Pablo64
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To: ArGee
What if the person's never heard of Christ? He's doomed to eternal damnation? What about babies who die in infancy before learning about Christ? What about all the billions of folks who lived before Jesus walked the Earth, or died before he died?
130 posted on 01/03/2002 1:04:27 PM PST by Junior
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To: LuvItOrLeaveIt
Trot him out, that's all the evidence I need.

I'm sorry, are you under the impression that He is a beast of whom I am the master?

I don't trot Him out, He comes when you call to Him. He is there for you to find. He desires a relationship with you.

But, as Jesus said: (Luke 16:31) "He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.'"

Even if He were to appear to you tonight, you would convince yourself you were dreaming. There is no more complete evidence than what already is. It isn't a lack of evidence that is bothering you, it is a lack of will.

Open the eyes of your heart and you will see.

Shalom.

131 posted on 01/03/2002 1:04:52 PM PST by ArGee
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To: Khepera
I did not see it addressed to everyone...But it is interesting that this "outlawed" religious discussion has heated up the server so much. Could that be because people have a deep desire to really find out about Truth? And maybe are looking for logical explanations?
132 posted on 01/03/2002 1:05:37 PM PST by soundsolutions
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To: ksen;rnmomof7
Rnmomof7 sent me an email which sh says quotes Jim Robinson. I do not believe Rnmomof7 would lie to me about anything. This is what I received.

FYI: Re: Pope John Paul II's World Day of Peace Message
REPLIED Jim Robinson
2002-01-03 12:39:27 Well, I do not want a lot of hot religious debate on FR. This is not the place for it. Please cool it. Thanks, Jim

I believe her when she says she got tis from Jim.

133 posted on 01/03/2002 1:06:15 PM PST by Khepera
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To: lexcorp
If 990 religions in a row are false, the chances are pretty good that religion 991 will be false as well. And by the time you get to testing religion 1000, it stands to reason it'll be false, too.
Faulty logic..........
If 990 coin flips in a row are tails, the chances are pretty good that flip 991 will be tails as well. And by the time you get to flipping coin 1000, it stands to reason it'll be tails, too.
Just change the wording and you'll see...........
134 posted on 01/03/2002 1:06:52 PM PST by Elsie
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To: ksen;rnmomof7;*BRAAD
Rnmomof7 sent me an email which sh says quotes Jim Robinson. I do not believe Rnmomof7 would lie to me about anything. This is what I received.

FYI: Re: Pope John Paul II's World Day of Peace Message
REPLIED Jim Robinson
2002-01-03 12:39:27 Well, I do not want a lot of hot religious debate on FR. This is not the place for it. Please cool it. Thanks, Jim

I believe her when she says she got tis from Jim.

135 posted on 01/03/2002 1:06:53 PM PST by Khepera
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To: soundsolutions
"...it can be demonstrated far beyond any doubt, that the book was not written by mere men"

Demonstrated how? Could you expand on this part?

136 posted on 01/03/2002 1:06:54 PM PST by fourdeuce82d
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To: lexcorp
If 990 religions in a row are false, the chances are pretty good that religion 991 will be false as well. And by the time you get to testing religion 1000, it stands to reason it'll be false, too.

To the cynic or pessimist, perhaps. But then this person probably never looked very far into religion 1 in the first place. Nor did he compare 1 to 3, or 20 to 52.

It's always easier to NOT do something than it is TO do something, so it stands to reason that the cynic/pessimist believes in nothing.

137 posted on 01/03/2002 1:07:32 PM PST by sayfer bullets
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To: soundsolutions
The Bible is God’s word, and it can be demonstrated far beyond any doubt, that the book was not written by mere men.

There is no evidence to support this assertion. The Bible was written by men, that is fact. You have yet to demostrate this god you assert exists, let alone that it wrote down anything.

So, it records claims of Jesus, either what he said was 100% the truth or nothing he said is true.

As with all mythology, there is a modicum of basis in fact. Such is the way with myths and legends.

No one logically can pick and choose which things Christ said; that they will agree is true. There is no middle ground.

Which is precisely why it is 100% safe to reject all of it as superstitious nonsense.

138 posted on 01/03/2002 1:08:18 PM PST by LuvItOrLeaveIt
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Sorry for the double post. I'll be quiet now.
139 posted on 01/03/2002 1:09:00 PM PST by Khepera
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To: ArGee
Well, I don't understand people who would sit outside the locked door, but I consider myself and other atheists to be more the type that sees the fliers and goes to the stadium only to be told that the banquet will be held "soon." No one knows when. When we ask, we find that the fliers have been posted for 2000 years... so we go find our own food. We see you as folks who've been hanging around looking for free food for a very, very long time. Hey, it's your choice...
140 posted on 01/03/2002 1:09:18 PM PST by Anamensis
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