Posted on 01/03/2002 11:19:13 AM PST by ArGee
What I said was that Christians don't understand non-Christians.
Where do you want to go and how are you planning to get there?
Shalom.
It was precisely this that I intended to stress. Thanks for pointing it out.
Shalom.
Theology expects nothing. G-d has His own expectations. And, no matter what you say, I don't think it's going to cut it if you challenge Him and say, 'There was no evidence.'
What you mean to say is that you have defined precisely what evidence is admissable and will insist that G-d provide the evidence you asked for and you will reject anything else. Just like the people who insisted that the man let them in the door they asked for and rejected anything else.
And this is what I don't understand.
Shalom.
The Christians here will claim that I REFUSE to believe for perverse reasons, but this is only to make themselves feel better about their own belief by "explaining away" the skepticism of others. Such arguments (or, more correctly, accusations) will only tend raise more red flags for a principled skeptic. Men of intellectual character are justifiably suspicious of those who make matters of fact (e.g. whether Jesus was God) matters of morality.
I have an answer on my profile page. I put it there because I was typing it so often.
Shalom.
We are BRAAD
WE'RE HERE. WE'RE INTOLERANT. GET USED TO IT!
Bob
I will not argue with that part. But remember, it is only a story. I won't even call it a parable.
Shalom.
Friend, I asked that question of believers, not you.
I am sorry that you are so confused by people who don't get the Father's message right. But His message is still clear and open to you if you want to hear it. If necessary, He will bring it to you Himself as He has done before.
Don't blame anyone else if you do not know Him. You can know Him right now. He isn't far away. He's standing outside your heart knocking to be let in.
Open your heart.
Shalom.
Your description of a confusing, scam of a circus may be how religion is viewed by the atheist but I can assure you that to a Christian there is only one gate; Jesus Christ.
That gate is not hard to find.
The people sitting outside simply refuse to believe that there is a stadium, or a banquet, or a rich man even when they see him with their own eyes.
It ends happily when those outside pass out from hunger and the rich man brings them inside and tends them.
The only ones banned forever from the banquet are the servers caught urinating in the lobster bisque.
what if that's the case for christianity? What if we die and we find out the guys who worship rocks were right?
Why do you care why the rule is made, as long as it is a rule that is easy to follow.
G-d Himself will carry you to the door. Why do you care that He insists upon that door as long as He makes it easy for you to go through?
Shalom.
Christianity requires that you accept the reign of Jesus in your life. If you reject that reign, you will go to the place where He does not reign. It will be your choice.
I'm just curious why you would make that choice? What has that place got that Heaven hasn't got?
Shalom.
You're absolutely wrong here. You make an assertion that a god exists, not the god you assert. If your god made the assertion, that would be the evidence, but all I have is the words of men and men, as everyone knows, are fallible.
What you mean to say is that you have defined precisely what evidence is admissable and will insist that G-d provide the evidence you asked for and you will reject anything else. Just like the people who insisted that the man let them in the door they asked for and rejected anything else.
Trot him out, that's all the evidence I need.
And this is what I don't understand.
And what I cannot understand is blind faith with no evidence.
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