Posted on 04/10/2005 4:59:54 PM PDT by diverteach
Modern communication technology has helped make the Pope’s death an unparalleled event. The entire world has literally come together to praise this one man. I find that many sense that there will be some important and climactic consequences to follow the death of this Pope.
As I studied the many Bible prophecies of the Last Days, I found a most unusual extra-Biblical prophecy made by an Irish Catholic Bishop in the 12th Century. His name is St. Malachy. According to his biographer St. Bernard of Clairvaux, in his book Life of Saint Malachy, St. Malachy was known to have the gift of prophesy and even predicted the exact day and hour of his own death. St. Malachy was canonized in 1190 by Pope Clement III.
According to his biographer, St. Malachy was visiting Rome in 1139 when he went into a trance and received a vision. Malachy wrote down this extraordinary vision in which he claims to have foreseen all of the Popes from the death of Innocent II until the destruction of the Church and the Return of Christ. He named exactly 112 Popes from that time until the end.
St. Malachy wrote a few prophetically descriptive words in Latin about each one of the Popes. He then gave the manuscript to Pope Innocent II and it was deposited in the Vatican Archives where it was forgotten for several centuries. Then in 1590, it was rediscovered and published.
The interesting thing is that scholars have matched the brief 110 descriptive predictions with each of the 110 Popes and anti-Popes that there have been since Innocent II. Though they are a bit obscure, they have fit the general profile of each of the Popes.
Now these are in no way the same kind of predictions we find in the Bible....
(Excerpt) Read more at hallindseyoracle.com ...
But he does claim to be an "oracle".
Hal has always been careful to weasel-word his comments on end-times events.
"What generation? Obviously, in context, the generation that would see the signs -- chief among them the rebirth of Israel. A generation in the Bible is something like forty years. If this is a correct deduction, then within forty years or so of 1948, all these things could take place. Many scholars who have studied Bible prophecy all their lives believe that this is so." (The Late Great Planet Earth, p. 54)
"The decade of the 1980’s could very well be the last decade of history as we know it." (The 1980’s: Countdown to Armageddon, p. 8)
More often than not he has been wrong with his "suggestions" on the unfolding of events.
Because the Bible teaches that in the last days there will be scoffers and mockers of the Word. They will say there is no God, or that God will not come because from generation to generation they have looked for His return and He has not returned yet. So therefore, everytime someone says these prophecies are wrong and God will not return, then they are saying we are in the last days and fullfilling that.
And you don't think the decade of the 80's was the last of history as we knew it? Don't you think things have gone downhill in the 90's...I sure wish for the good old days.
Another typical Lindsey fleecing of the flock.
His eschatology has already been proven false. Jesus was supposed to return in 1981 according to him. He's a false prophet. Then he just keeps changing the date, and people are stupid enough to buy the books.
I don't know anyone who gets it all right in the Biblical prophecy arena.
But I've met Hal. He's an authentic Christian Brother with a heart for God and for God's Word. I respect him. I respect his perspective though I certainly don't agree with all his conjectures and opinions. I certainly respect his motivation.
I don't know of a single fraudlant thing about him.
I think the jury is still out on a number of his conjectures.
BTW, he has never claimed to be a prophet.
He's merely a researcher with some good connections.
Quite so.
He's merely a student of Scripture and a researcher. Now, he's acquired a lot of great connections and sources to add to his considerable study on his own.
No, he does NOT claim to be an orcale in your meaning of the word. Sheesh.
A generation could well mean that as long as one person is alive that saw Israel become a nation again in a day in 1948 precisely as Scripture indicated . . . and that one person was alive to see the related Biblical prophecies fulfilled, that generation Scripture would be fulfilled.
I much agree with you.
And such a stance is standard with the knee-jerk naysayers hereon.
Well said.
Billy Graham once speculated that he didn't see how Jesus could return later than 1975.
Lots of our daily conjectures are wrong.
The knee-jerk naysayers will be very painfully wrong wholesale in coming months and years.
Conjectures? More like WAGs
You can't lose credibility faster than those four little words: "written by Hal Lindsey." ;-)
"The interesting thing is that scholars have matched the brief 110 descriptive predictions with each of the 110 Popes and anti-Popes that there have been since Innocent II."
The above statement is false.
I've read all of the papal prophecies by Malachy and he didn't predict anything.
The author of this drivel is another charlatan, like all the rest.
Spirit Daily
http://www.spiritdaily.org/New-world-order/StMalachy.htm
St. Malachy's Alleged Prophecy: Did He Predict The Last Sequence Of Popes?
By Michael H. Brown
Occasionally we're asked about prophecies that have to do with the next pope or the next sequence of popes. Our advice is to be careful characterizing the successor to John Paul II: the cardinals have free will, and that free will determine who serves next. Those who preordain the next pope as an "anti-pope" must be careful that we are not besmirching a good and possibly even great pontiff; this can be very dangerous. As for prophecy, the most famous was that of St. Malachy O'Morgair, the 12-century archbishop of Armagh, Ireland. Tradition has it that when he visited Rome in 1139, Malachy was granted a vision of all the popes of the future, each of whom he described in symbolic Latin. He was said to have given this list to Pope Innocent II, and little more was heard until 1590, when a Benedictine monk, Dom Arnold de Wyon, ignited controversy after discovering the list in the Vatican archives.
Those who believe in this prophecy (and there is controversy over the authenticity of such a list to start with) argue that the Latin utterances fit all the popes since 1590. For example, according to a book called Prophecy For Today, St. Malachy's list described a pope later identified as Leo XIII with the words lumen in caelo (light in the heavens), and in fact that pope's coat of arms included a shooting star. Benedict XV was supposedly religio depopulata -- "religion devastated" (he served during World War I); John XXIII, who had served in the port city of Venice, was pastor et nauta ("shepherd and sailor"); and Paul VI was flos florum, or flower of flowers, and his coat of arms indeed displayed the fleur-de-lis (a pattern of flowers). Pope John Paul I was depicted as de medietate lunae, which means "from half of the moon -- and the first two letters of his family name, Luciani, form half of the word "luna," while the current pope, John Paul II was de labore solis, from the labor of the sun (with no clear explanation, although perhaps there is a connection in that he was born the year of an eclipse, and also: his working devotion to the "woman clothed with the sun").
That leaves two popes on St. Malachy's alleged list. One was described as De gloria olivae (from the glory of the olive) and the last as Petrus Romanus (Peter the Roman). It is Peter the Roman who is said to reign during tribulations that will include the destruction of Rome.
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Smart dude! Unlike those who sell their earthly possessions and wait at the top of some hill, Billy left himself an out. In 1976 all he had to do was say that God works in mysterious ways that a mere mortal cannot understand. Those people at the top of the hill had to admit they were wrong, or at least have others know they were wrong.
Guess I've done a lot of fulfilling over the years!
Certainly Billy made clear it was mere speculation. And, it was really a commentary on the slide downhill of our culture and the world in general.
Consider how much further down that hill we've slid since THEN!
2. Do not make the mistake of confusing my disdain for dispensational premillenialism, a system invented in the 18th century using dubious exegesis, as "scoffing Bible prophecy." Just because I think the pretrib rapture is based more on wishful thinking than sound Biblical exegesis doesn't make me a scoffer of "Bible prophecy."
3. Lindsey, LaHaye et al. deserve to be scoffed. They've been so wrong so many times, it's not funny.
"St. Malachy's Alleged Prophecy: Did He Predict The Last Sequence Of Popes?"
Answ: NO.
"Looks like Hal has done his research."
Looks like another modern-day Nostryl.
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