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Texas2step's Lord of the Rings Movie Experience
me | 12/22/01 | Texas2step

Posted on 12/22/2001 5:46:05 PM PST by Texas2step

OK, I've had 24 hours to try and get my thoughts together now since first seeing the movie. First, if you haven't seen this movie yet, GO GET YOUR TICKETS NOW!!! This is the most incredible movie experience period. Was it perfect? No. Was it the greatest movie of all time? Maybe, but probably not to most. Was it my favorite movie ever? I'll tell you after I watch it again next week, or maybe when I watch it again the week after that, but possibly, probably yes.

First let me set up "where I was at" - my perspective, my mindset in getting ready to watch the movie. I took my wife who was not familiar with LOTR at all. Not familiar with The Hobbit, Frodo, Gandalf, etc. Not only that, but by her own admission hates "movies where they wear the same clothes the whole movie". :-) She was not excited about seeing the movie, but went primarily to review whether or not we would allow our 10 year old daughter to go.

So, I had a couple of things on my mind as I watched the movie. I was concerned about my wife's reaction, and hoping that she wouldn't hate it, and I watched the movie intently with trying to determine if it would be unappropriate if my 10 year old daughter saw the movie.

I wish I could have seen this movie by myself, without having to be concerned with how someone I was with would react, and without evaluating the movie on the gore/violence/fright scale. But alas, I did not have that opportunity.

Also, I have read every single review, every article on Jackson, Tolkien, LOTR, etc. that I could get my hands on. I practically knew exactly what was going to happen throughout the movie. I knew what changes had been made, I knew when it was going to be scary, I knew when it was going to be sad. I wish now that I had not read so much detail and done more skimming.

So, now you know my distractions and my mindset. Even with this, even with extremely high expectations, I was literally blown away. I was so hyped about watching this movie, I didn't realize that the movie had started until about 30 seconds into Galadriel's prologue intro.

If you have not seen the movie, don't read any further. There will be "spoilers" throughout the rest of this "review".

What was perfect?

First and formost, casting and acting. I won't repeat the high praises of others who have mentioned the portrayals of Gandalf, Borimor, Bilbo, Sauraman, and Elrond, they are all excellent, no, perfect.

I've seen mixed reviews on Frodo, Galadriel, and Aragorn. I'm sorry, but whoever did not see these three as doing an awesome job, what on earth were you drinking?

Aragorn is absolutely perfect. The way he walks, the way he looks, the sense of growth from beginning to ending. By the end of the movie you see "the man who would be king".

Frodo, man, Woods did an incredible job. You sense the burden he picks up in Rivendell. You feel the weight of the ring he carries. You see the sense of foreboding in his eyes in the mountains of Caldaras. You see the assumption of responsibility in the way he carries himself when he comes to the decision to travel to Mount Doom alone. Absolutely perfection.

Galadriel is perfect as well. Having read the reviews and spoilers about the mirror scene, I was expecting some kind of hokey video game sequence with special effects. Yes, the special effects in this scene were "over the top", moreso than I remember from when reading the books, but it fit. It was perfect. I really enjoyed this scene more than I thought I would.

I have seen some who have been under impressed with the portrayal of Merry and Pippen. I disagree. Yes, they were the comic effect, but that's the impression I had of them from the book as well. I didn't mind the change in Moria where Pippen knocks the skeleton down the well instead of throwing a rock. I didn't mind the other subtle changes in their characters from the book. I think their portrayal was an enhancement and really added to the Fellowship. I can't wait to see how they hold up in the hands of the orcs in the Two Towers.

Acting was absolutely perfect.

What about special effects?

Great - when Frodo wears the ring, the size of the hobbits, the cave troll was much, much scarier than I expected, epic battle scenes, the entire Mines of Moria scene was mindblowing, scene with Galadriel, the Ringwraiths at the ford, scene with Bilbo & Frodo in Rivendell, and more.

I didn't see any poor special effects. None. The balrog did not meet my expectations, however. I expected to be frightened.

The cinematography was the best I've ever seen. Period. The settings were the best I've ever seen. Period. The level of detail was the best I've ever seen. Period.

My only disappointments? It's funny, I'm not a huge Tolkien fan. I am a fan of fantasy/sci-fi, less so now than when I was younger, but I've read lots of it. I didn't expect changes to Tolkien's work to be among my disappointments. However, I do feel that the changes were necessary. This movie cannot be perfect without it being 4 hours in length. It's just not possible. There's nothing in it I would take out. But there's a ton I wanted to add back in. It did not feel like a three hour movie. As the Fellowship left the Mines of Moria, I felt like we were probably about 90 minutes into the movie and had 90 left. But I looked at my watch, over 2 hours had gone by.

I was a bit disappointed with the Forest of Loth-Lorien. It was way too short. I wanted to stay and explore this incredible forest. Where was Sam when Frodo and Galadriel were looking into the mirror??? I missed this immensely, and I knew ahead of time that Sam wasn't going to be there in the movie. The whole scene in Loth-Lorien was way too short. Where were the gifts to each of the fellowship? I knew that this was cut from the movie, and I knew that Galadriel's scene with Gimli was cut, but I missed it sorely.

Speaking of Gimli. I thought he was shorted in this movie. My memory of Gimli and Legolas was larger than what I saw. The actors did great. They just weren't given enough screen time. I do hope that they see expansions of their roles to the rightful place for The Two Towers. Their growing friendship is part of my favorite things of LOTR, and we didn't get to see much of that in this movie.

There's more, but I really have to go. It's all trivial, but to me it seemed very rushed. I wanted to bask in the travels of the fellowship. I wanted to enjoy the sights that we got to behold. I understand the the general movie going audience would probably not stand for a four hour movie, but I sure could have.

In summary, my wife like it a lot. If I can get her to go back, I do believe she would enjoy it more. Her ONLY complaint was the lack of an "ending" and lack of closure. I should have warned her, and I thought I had, but she spent the last 20 minutes of the movie going "they better get going, there's a long way to go before it's through", etc.

We did agree, after much discussion, and a night to sleep on it that our daughter can see it. I will take her on a father/daughter date next week. She's excited.

My favorite parts of the movie was the Ringwraith's in pursuit of the Hobbits. Fantastic. The black blood on the horses hooves. It gives me chills. The level of detail throughout. Wow.


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1 posted on 12/22/2001 5:46:05 PM PST by Texas2step
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To: ecurbh
Want to do the pinging honors, oh Ring Ping King?
2 posted on 12/22/2001 5:46:42 PM PST by Texas2step
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To: Texas2step
I suspect the "missing" footage will be added to the DVD so no fear viewing the movie will be an incomplete experience. In the theater there are time constraints and obviously the audience can sit only so long. The home viewing experience will be on a much more leisurely and intimate scale and I'm sure people are already looking forward to the DVD Director's Cut Edition.
3 posted on 12/22/2001 5:55:16 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: Texas2step
I saw it last night with my wife, too. Neither of us had read the book. We were also disappointed with the lack of an ending ... even the Star Wars movies each had a discernable 'ending'. Special effects were pretty good.

Greatest movie of all time? Stanley Kubrick's "Spartacus".

4 posted on 12/22/2001 5:57:53 PM PST by AngrySpud
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To: Texas2step
Another "Lord of the Rings" thread....

I haven't read the book nor have I seen the movie, but I did "hear" once about a film called "Mistress of the Rings".

After "hearing" about some of the scenes in that one, I'm avoiding anything with the name "rings" in it.

5 posted on 12/22/2001 5:59:18 PM PST by Mulder
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To: Texas2step
Congrats on seeing it, your postings and pingings help all of us fans out a lot. Just a note - it has been confirmed officially that this film WAS cut down from 4 hours - there will be a whole hour of added footage to the DVD release later in 2002. I know that it became my favorite movie of all time the SECOND time I saw it; the first I was so nervous about will I like it/won't I like it that I knew I loved the movie, but it was too much to take in the first time. So I encourage everyone to see it a second time, and most of the quibbles you have will disappear.
6 posted on 12/22/2001 6:05:38 PM PST by egarvue
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To: goldstategop;AngrySpud
Oh, don't get me wrong. I loved the movie. I knew there wouldn't be a discernable ending, there was no way to and be true to the books.

My wife went through the same thing I went through the first time I read the book. I remember getting near the end of the book and thinking, "they better get busy, they have so much to do and only 40 pages left". I didn't realize that this a very much a "to be continued" type of story at the time.

I just wished I had warned my wife a little, and she would have had a much better experience. She still liked it, but the lack of ending really bothered her.

7 posted on 12/22/2001 6:08:51 PM PST by Texas2step
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To: egarvue
So I encourage everyone to see it a second time, and most of the quibbles you have will disappear.

Yes, it's definitely a two viewing movie. I cannot wait to see it a second time myself. I will have my 10 year old daughter, so some of my attention will be on her experience and making sure she's not too frightened. I don't think she will be, but I'll have to be aware of it.

It's my third viewing I look forward to. The time where I can just get lost in the movie!

8 posted on 12/22/2001 6:11:14 PM PST by Texas2step
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To: Texas2step
At least when I read the book I didn't have to wait some ten odd years for Two Towers to be released. ;-)
9 posted on 12/22/2001 6:12:00 PM PST by okie_tech
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To: AngrySpud
I went on opening night. Was amazing. About every 6 years or so, I have revisited the books.

My tinge of disappointment came from the rushed pace of the movie. It goes without saying that a movie cannot be all a book was - and the screen cannot compete on an even playing field with the imagination.

The movie is an accurate representation of the book. Yes, lots was cut out to truncate the story and make it fit a movie format. What they included portrayed the book fairly. Yet, in the process of fitting a 10-20 hour story into a 3 hour timeslot, it is rushed. The pleasure of the flight from Frodo's home takes but minutes. No clear high elf voices singing as they travel through the mountains at night. How I have longed to hear that sound.

The pleasures worth lingering over - the fabric of the story - which don't contribute to the plot, but multiply the pleasure were (perhaps of necessity) left out. Understandable, but sad.

Is it worth seeing? Absolutely. I will watch it again.

best

AMPU

10 posted on 12/22/2001 6:12:01 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: AngrySpud
Greatest movie of all time? Stanley Kubrick's "Spartacus".

That one's definitely high up on my list, but "Casablanca", "North by Northwest", and "Citizen Kane" beat it out.

Watch closely in the scene where Kirk Douglas drowns Marcellus in the pot of soup. The stunt guy who played Marcellus broke his jaw when Douglas smacked it against the edge of the pot during the shoot. The scene makes me cringe every time I see it.

11 posted on 12/22/2001 6:24:23 PM PST by strela
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To: Darth Sidious
RING ping
12 posted on 12/22/2001 6:29:53 PM PST by RonDog
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
The pleasure of the flight from Frodo's home takes but minutes. No clear high elf voices singing as they travel through the mountains at night. How I have longed to hear that sound.

This is exactly the kind of thing I missed throughout the movie. I know that they couldn't do this kind of thing, they just simply could not do it all. My brain understands that, but my heart missed it much.

I still loved the movie. I loved that PJ was as true to the books as he was. I will await the release of the DVD with great anticipation.

13 posted on 12/22/2001 6:34:56 PM PST by Texas2step
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To: jrherreid; HairOfTheDog; RosieCotton; billbears; ObfusGate; austinTparty; Texas2step; billbears...
ping
14 posted on 12/22/2001 6:43:28 PM PST by ecurbh
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To: Texas2step
The battle scene in the beginning was great. And the when the Ringwraiths were chasing Arwen and Frodo, while not in the book, was heartstopping. All around awsome movie. Hope the grosses hold up.
15 posted on 12/22/2001 6:51:54 PM PST by paul544
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To: okie_tech
I believe Two Towers comes out next December.
16 posted on 12/22/2001 6:56:00 PM PST by arkfreepdom
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To: AngrySpud
We were also disappointed with the lack of an ending ...
Greatest movie of all time? Stanley Kubrick's "Spartacus".

Having a bunch of rebels crucified for miles along the Appian Way does make for a good ending.
Sophia Loren later had an appartment on the same street.

17 posted on 12/22/2001 7:00:15 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic
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To: paul544
The scenes with the Nazgul, the Ringwraiths, were incredible. I do believe that these scenes were more frightening to my wife than the balrog, the cave troll, the orcs, anything else. The shrieks from the horses or the Nazgul themselves (I couldn't tell which) were terrifying all by themselves.
18 posted on 12/22/2001 7:02:22 PM PST by Texas2step
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To: Texas2step
Our 2nd viewing was better. 3rd, 4th, 5th etc -- we can already tell this masterpiece will hold up well over time.
We're sad about the missing "must-haves," especially the prophecy poems. Been reading theonering.net and there are photos of gazillions of cut scenes, so it seems the DVD will be a treat. The mega DVD release in 2004 is said to have many more extra hours of film planned ...
19 posted on 12/22/2001 7:07:42 PM PST by Cascadians
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To: Texas2step
We saw it today...if it was cut down from 3 hours to 4 hours, I'll have to buy a DVD player...
20 posted on 12/22/2001 7:12:21 PM PST by Maelstrom
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