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Shock poll: Jeb Bush is choice of conservatives, Romney is establishment pick
washington examiner ^ | 12/25/2014 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 12/26/2014 11:20:36 AM PST by entropy12

In a new poll of likely Republican primary voters nationwide by Zogby Analytics, 2012 GOP nominee Romney leads the pack with 14%, followed by former Florida Governor Jeb Bush (12%), Kentucky Senator Rand Paul (10%), New Jersey Governor Chris Christie (8%), former Arkansas Governor and now Fox News Host Mike Huckabee (7%), Florida Senator Marco Rubio (7%), Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker (5%), Rep. and former Vice Presidential nominee Paul Ryan (4%), Texas Governor Rick Perry (4%), Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal (3%), Texas Senator Ted Cruz (3%), South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley (2%), former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum (1%), and both Ohio Senator Rob Portman and New Mexico Governor Susana Martinez tied at .3%.


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To: entropy12

“Romney is establishment pick”

Oh, wait...I read it too fast.

(Sorry, I’m sure Romney is a decent man)


61 posted on 12/26/2014 11:53:52 AM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: entropy12
There is a certain smell about this poll and it ain't the smell of roses.
62 posted on 12/26/2014 11:54:22 AM PST by The Cajun (Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert....Nuff said.)
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To: monocle

That is correct in the general in November.

This article is about primaries.


63 posted on 12/26/2014 11:55:21 AM PST by entropy12 (Dumb and Dumber to borrow money from China to protect oil flow to China from middle-east.)
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To: entropy12

Don’t even know what to say anymore. It’s apparently obvious that the Republican party no longer wants conservatives. They want to merge with the moderate portion of the democrat party, appease law-breaking immigrants, and secure their place as the dominant party. This has been in the works for quite some time. Kiss the Republican party bye-bye.


64 posted on 12/26/2014 11:55:30 AM PST by Thorliveshere (Minnesota Survivor)
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To: The Cajun

It is John Zogby! Smell is omnipresent.


65 posted on 12/26/2014 11:56:17 AM PST by entropy12 (Dumb and Dumber to borrow money from China to protect oil flow to China from middle-east.)
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To: righttackle44
If it is Bush 2016, and the hard-headed Conservatives refuse to vote for him, then we can blame them for whatever happens next. (How did not voting for Romney work for the nation?)

Oh please. Have you learned NOTHING in the past ten years? The fault lies with the RINOs. Period.

Don't blame us conservatives for refusing to vote RINO. Blame the RINOs.

If you were being sarcastic, please ignore this post. If you weren't, shame on you.

66 posted on 12/26/2014 11:56:45 AM PST by Maceman
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To: Eccl 10:2

Please explain your item #2 more.


67 posted on 12/26/2014 11:58:09 AM PST by entropy12 (Dumb and Dumber to borrow money from China to protect oil flow to China from middle-east.)
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To: entropy12

The Presidential candidate I support will be pushing the following agends.

Pass a Constitutional Amendment requiring a Balanced Budget

- Budget deficits can only occur with:

o First, a Declaration of National Emergency by the President.

o Second, 5/6 approval of the House and the Senate

- Allow 5 years to produce the first balanced budget from date of ratification

- Deficit = Spending more than previous year’s Federal Tax Receipts.

- “Omnibus” spending authorizations are forbidden. Each branch of the Executive Branch must have its own separate spending authorization

- Violation of law punishable by 5 year mandatory prison sentence. By ‘violation’ I mean Congressmen voting “Yes” and/or President not vetoing any law that deficit spends.

Repeal the 17th Amendment and pass a New Term-Limits Amendment For Elected Officials and Federal Judges

- The President of the United States may serve up to 4 four-year terms. Any Second, Third or Fourth term must also win the popular vote in addition to winning the Electoral College. Any Third or Fourth term must also be won with 60% of the popular vote.

- Senators should be returned to being the voices of the State Governments.

o They shall be elected by state legislatures.

o Terms limited to 2 six-year terms.

- Representatives should become more representative of the population. The Constitution originally called for 1 Representative to the House for every 30,000 people. Right now, that ratio is roughly 1 for every 700,000 people. How can 1 person accurately reflect the will of 700,000?

o Their number to be set at 1 for every 50,000 persons. This will produce a Congress of slightly over 6,000 members.

o Term limited to 4 two-year terms.

o Prohibited from taking any campaigning money or services from any business or organization. Only registered voters in their district may contribute to a campaign fund.

o Individual campaign donations limited to $1000 dollars

o All campaign donations left unspent on each campaign to be donated to a charity supporting families of soldiers killed in active duty.

- Prohibit Federal Retirement Plans for both houses of Congress.

- All Federal Judges are to be appointed for 10 year terms. Judges may be re-appointed to 1 additional 10 year term.

Pass a Constitutional Amendment Banning Abortion

- The first unalienable right listed in the Declaration of Independence is Life. Life is sacred and should be protected and defended at all costs. Any society that will not protect the life of the unborn is a society in decay.

- Abortion is the ultimate “I can do whatever I want, don’t tell me what to do” act. You kill a child because you don’t want to deal with the consequences of behavior. Abortion is morally reprehensible and morally indefensible.

- Abortion has NOTHING to do with Woman’s Rights.

Open ANWAR and ALL coastal waters of the US to Oil Exploration and Development

100% Nuclear, Hydro-Electric, Solar and Wind Power on the National Power Grid by 2040

Illegal Immigration Reform

- Create and administer a secure National ID Card. I know this is unpopular, but if we cannot ascertain a person’s true identity we have a major problem. This can be incorporated through driver’s licenses issued by the states. No RFID tracking. Any interaction with local state and federal government would require the Secure ID.

- Create a National Visitor Identity Card and Data Base for ALL visitors to the US, regardless of duration of stay or reason for visit.

- National E-VERIFY for all employment. No ID, no job. Penalties for violation would be $50,000 per violation per day.

- After 1 year from passage of this law, any foreigner caught in the United States without a valid National Visitor Identity Card shall be deported and permanently barred from entering the US.

- Citizenship shall not be conferred to children born in the United States to non-citizens. Children must be naturalized.

Tax Reform

- Abolish the Current Tax Code Completely. Start with a Clean Sheet of Paper.

- Install a 17% Flat Tax on all wage earners (Wages, tips, capital gains, dividends, any compensation) with No Deductions. Everyone pays the same rate. Make more, pay more. Make less, pay less.

- No corporate income taxes for any business that does all business/manufacturing in the United States.

Create and Install a Layered Phase-Out of the Social Security Administration. 30 Year Plan

Completely remove Welfare from the Federal Government

Abolish the Department of Education

- Restrict the Federal Government’s role in education to developing and analyzing standardized testing for national comparisons and monitoring of educational achievement.


68 posted on 12/26/2014 11:59:03 AM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: manc

We conservatives seem to be beneath them. I remember McCain saying as much.


69 posted on 12/26/2014 11:59:32 AM PST by LongWayHome
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To: entropy12
Smell is omnipresent.

Well maybe omnipresent in the bull's pasture, if you follow my drift :)

70 posted on 12/26/2014 11:59:43 AM PST by The Cajun (Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert....Nuff said.)
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To: entropy12
Jeb Bush is choice of low-info conservatives

Fixed it.

71 posted on 12/26/2014 12:00:39 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The mods stole my tagline.)
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To: Maceman

The nomination comes down to one thing,,,,,UNITY.

Any one conservative remaining after SC primary defeats any one RINO. If it is one conservative versus 2 or more RINO’s, it will be a landslide for the conservative.

The article states that Reagan won in 1980 because he was the lone conservative in the final race.

Mitt won in 2012 because he was the Lone RINO remaining after SC primary versus Newt, Ricky, Cain, etc all still in the race..


72 posted on 12/26/2014 12:02:17 PM PST by entropy12 (Dumb and Dumber to borrow money from China to protect oil flow to China from middle-east.)
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To: entropy12

“If conservatives wish to win nomination in 2016, the key word in unity.”

Agreed.


73 posted on 12/26/2014 12:02:17 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: entropy12

Win what? The GOP nomination or the Presidency?


74 posted on 12/26/2014 12:02:32 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: entropy12

I see how they get to this conclusion.

They define Boehner as conservative.

People like us are the fringe 5%, extremists don’t count.

Judging by recent elections, they know what they are talking about. We hard-right conservatives are very small in number. That’s why we aren’t represented by either party adn arent’ likely to be.

Which means the same old story. Find your workaround and get to work.


75 posted on 12/26/2014 12:03:22 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Life is good.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Please read post #72.


76 posted on 12/26/2014 12:03:48 PM PST by entropy12 (Dumb and Dumber to borrow money from China to protect oil flow to China from middle-east.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Please read post #72.


77 posted on 12/26/2014 12:04:48 PM PST by entropy12 (Dumb and Dumber to borrow money from China to protect oil flow to China from middle-east.)
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To: entropy12

Zogby?
‘Nuff said.


78 posted on 12/26/2014 12:07:49 PM PST by oldbill
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To: entropy12

I call “BS” on this poll and this story.


79 posted on 12/26/2014 12:09:21 PM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: entropy12

Now that’s funny...

Once again, liberals telling conservatives who their choices are...and then trying to draw some sort of contrast between two GOPers, two RINOs.

Really, it’s like Hollywood scripted this as an absurd transparently superficial movie.


80 posted on 12/26/2014 12:09:50 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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