Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread) October 29, 2003

Various | October 29, 2003 | sweetliberty

[cyn]

was this transcript posted? (I didn't see it in your lineup above, FE -- btw, thanks for all your work on those.)

[windchime]

Bump!

[Mo1]

Not sure if it was posted on FR .. but here is the one from CNN

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0310/27/lkl.00.html

[cyn]

done -- enjoy those leaves!

[Graymatter]

>>Can you find any of Michael's Pennsylvania lawsuits?

I'll look around and see if PA has a similar website.

[TigersEye]

Steve claims it took 8 years for MS to give up and realize she was gone.

Does that mean he still had hope in '93 when he placed a DNR on her chart and ordered "no treatment" for a bladder infection that he later (in the same year, '93) testified he knew would probably result in her death by septic shock? Oh yeah!

[Saundra Duffy]

Thank you for putting this together. Terri needs all of us to keep up the pressure. We cannot sit by and let Michael Schiavo and his attorney murder that poor vulnerable defenseless woman.

[Saundra Duffy]

A new thread daily. Excellent!!! If it weren't for FR and concerned citizens keeping up the pressure, I think the champions of death would be having a field day with Terri. She'd have already been murdered.

[Saundra Duffy]

Good post. Thanks.

[Graymatter]

http://www.PropertyRightsResearch.org

Been there, it is a fantastic site! Lots of great articles, info I hadn't read elsewhere. Terri page has dozens of links.

http://www.propertyrightsresearch.org/articles4/terrifrms.htm

[Saundra Duffy]

I'll get Terri's light going in my window. Thanks!

[pc93]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1007658/posts?page=2092#2092

[Saundra Duffy]

We all love and adore and support the Schindler family but I don't think they make very good spokespersons. If they could get someone like Joni Erickson-Tada (sp?) or someone like that to JOIN them, I think they would be more effective. Michael Schiavo's attorney (the devil himself) has been a very effective spokesperson, smoothe and polished, just like you'd expect from the devil himself (disguised as an "angel of light"). I think the Schindler's need better PR presence. That's all I'm saying. Not to be critical but just to be practical.

[Mo1]

OK here are my notes from the interview .. sorry I took so long, my 3 yr old kept kicking me off the computer .. it was her turn she claims .. plus I got caught up on another thread

Keep in mind that I didn't write down the questions asked, just what he said and I'm trying to be as acurate as I can .. so if I made any mistakes, please feel free to correct me.

Steven is from the Philadlphia area

MS is not driving a brand new car like that has been reported .. Steven says that MS drives 1990 acura that has a broken A/C in it

Steven says that MS doesn't own a brand new home that it is an older home that he is fixing up. he does say that it is in a nice neighborhood but wouldn't say it's a rich one

MS doesn't not have control of the Trust Fund, that the Bank in which the money was placed does and that MS does not have access to that money

That the court allowed the fund pay for the legal fees because Felos is Terry's lawyers also.

Steven visited Terry & MS in Fl 2 weeks ago .. that since he lives so far way, he only gets to visit once every 2/3 years.

Steven claims that Terry's condition is the same as day one of the collaspe and that she hasn't changed

That she can open her eyes and looks awake but there is no reaction.

That before the collaspe Terry had a very good relationship with her inlaw

Steven claims that her head is always moving and that Terry's family could easily make it look like she is following the balloon, when really she isn't

He compares her reaction to her mother like that of day old infant and that if you blow in that baby's face you could make it smile and that is what Terry's family did to make her smile

In his opinion Terry died 13 yrs ago

That he spoke with MS just yesterday and that MS is aware that his brother is making these calls to radio stations and that MS was not upset to learn about that news

Steven claims that MS is only doing this because he loves Terry so much

Steven himself did not actually hear Terry state these wishes, but heard thru the family that she said this on 2 occasions
Once when their Grandmother (Steven & MS's GM) was in the hospital dying and his father had to decide to pull the plug and another time when Terry and MS were watching a TV movie

Steven then went on to talk about how MS tried for years and that he just wouldn't give up on Terry. But that when their mother died, that was when he realized Terry was gone

Steven claims that MS didn't become an RN because of Terry's condition .. that his wife (steven) is a nurse and that she urged MS to become an RN

(that was were there was a disagreement with the traffic girl and steven about MS's reason for becoming a nurse .. see my early post and the transcript of LKL)

The radio guy then keep pointing out the conflict of MS's story and what he said in court documents

Steven also mention that MS and his lawyer will be speaking out again about Terry's case

The radio guy also mentioned that there are many issues between MS and Terry's family and asked what happened because didn't MS use to live with Terry's parents

That is when Steven says that MS did not live with her parents .. that Terry's parents had lived with MS because they were bankrupt and had no money .. that their credit was so bad they couldn't even rent an appartment and MS was the one who let them live with him.


Steven also mentions that he would be willing to do another interview/call in with Glenn Beck

He also mentions the VRWC and all the evil emails

He mentions that the tape of Terry is 40 minutes long (MY COMMENT .. not the 4 hours that MS claims)

OK folks that ends my notes ..

[Lovergirl]

WOOOOHOOO, I'm happy now. I emailed AARP last night because I got their mailings again. I told them that I was considering joining until I found out that they were considering defending Michael Schiavo. hehe. They said my information was INCORRECT. I really wasn't gonna join but they don't have to know that. LOL

[pollywog]

. If they could get someone like Joni Erickson-Tada (sp?) or someone like that to JOIN them, I think they would be more effective

OH YES, Saundra!! Joni is SO articulate and a very effect spokesperson for disabled rights!! I would STRONGLY URGE THEM TO INVOLVE JONI!!!!

[MarMema]

Thanks for posting this. It is another dehydration death in the making.

It could take up to six months to obtain, and then a further 14 days for him to die.

It's going to take this young healthy man with very strong healthy organs a long time to die of dehydration.

I hope everyone reading this will include him in your prayers.

[Aliska]

Here's a summary I typed up from the tape I made from Michael Reagan's interview of Attorney Patricia (Pamela?) Anderson last night. I may not have gotten everything exactly right but this is the gist of it and points covered, and can't take the time to polish it up right now:

1. In refutation of MS' statement that livein girlfriend cares more than Terri's mother. Mother bought stuffed animals and they were removed. Nobody has done more for Terri or cared for her more than her mother, Mary Schindler. Sees her almost every other day. All have put their lives on hold and come together as family . . . Mary took clothing down to the hospice. Hurtful, horrible thing to say re mistress cares more than own mother.

2. Money. Who is paying atty? Terri is the one paying for that attorney. That money has been taken away from Terri's medical fund. Half million "absolutely correct" out of Terri's medical fund has been paid to atty George Felos to make her dead. He entered pic in 1997. Terri was receiving rehab and therapy until 1991. When sued in 92 for $17 mil (awarded about $1.2 mil), that was used as the argument. He needed the money to bring her home and care for her for a normal lifespan. From that time, not one dime has been spent for therapy. After the money was allocated, not one cent was spent for rehab and $500,000 of the money has been spent on the lawyer to fight to pull the feeding tube.

3. PA: More disturbing about the judge, there are so many viable reasons while Michael should not be guardian. Living in open adultery, failure to file annual guardian reports and plans of action, obtaining guardianship in fraudulent manner (attorney's words, not mine).

4. Family receiving funding from rightwing groups. Right wing is n-word for people who stand in for life. MS should not have said that without research. Not true. Not funded by any organization. Receive donations from terrisfight.org. Coming in bits and pieces. $10, $20, etc. 160,000 signed online petition. Ton of people out there who have their eyes on this. MR: right wing groups are conspiracy to keep someone alive (in sarcastic mode).

5. PA honestly admits to being sort of emotionally involved. Says MS comes across as guy on a mission. ACLU on his team. Has effect on others. Ron Reagan cannot feed himself. Should they tell Nancy to quit feeding him? Disabilities organizations who are watching this are raising the bar on disabled people (MR: lowering it). GF says litmus is ability to raise spoon to own mouth.

6. Asked Christopher Reeve's organization about three or four times for help and he is too busy with other projects. "His plate rather full with his pursuits."

7. Joni Erickson Tada has come in on this. Not Dead Yet filed two or three amicus friends of the court briefs. It changes playing field or rules of what they are entitled to (disabled people).

8. Terri in remarkably good shape. Everything seems to be functioning properly and normally. Parents still not allowed to know medical details. Is "alert" (her words).

[Graymatter]

>>MS did not live with her parents .. that Terry's parents had lived with MS...

Michael and Terri lived in an apartment when Terri collapsed. The parents moved in?

[Saundra Duffy]

I will pray right NOW!

Me, too. Dear Heavenly Father please help Terri to survive the onslought of the enemy. In Jesus' Name. Amen.