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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread) October 29, 2003
Various | October 29, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 10/28/2003 10:00:43 PM PST by sweetliberty

(Daily Thread 1 - October 29, 2003)



Links to Previous Threads ( roughly from older to more current):

Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer: | August 28, 2003

TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO CALLING ALL FREEPERS Pt2 Disabled FL woman given Death Sentence by FL Courts | Posted 09-21-03


Florida Woman to Be Allowed to Die Despite Family's Wishes | Posted 8/05/03

Terri (Schiavo) Hospitalized The Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation | Posted 8-15-03

JUSTICE IN AMERICA | Posted 8-20-03

Florida Supreme Court Denies Hearing in Euthanasia Case |Posted 8-23-03

Legal setbacks clear way for Schiavo starvation | Posted 8-25-03

Florida governor asks judge to delay removal of woman's feeding tube ) | 8-26-03

Florida Governor Asks Judge to Delay Removal of Woman's Feeding Tube | 8-26-03

Attorney: Jeb Bush letter only a 'good first step' | August 28, 2003 |

'Exit protocol' for brain-disabled woman? (Breaking - Schiavo) | Aug. 29, 2003 |

Disabled Woman Would Cry 'Help Me,' Caregivers Claim (Terri Schiavo) | Posted 9/03/03

Disabled woman would cry "help me" caregivers claim | 9/3/03

Another 9-11 date with death: Jane Chastain decries agonizing death planned for Terri Schiavo | Posted 9-4-03

AnnaZ's Interview w/ Bob Schindler, Jr. - Terri Schindler-Schiavo's brother [Rough Transcript] | Posted 10-6-03

Operation Jell-O Freep for Terri Schiavo | Posted 9-7-03

Enforcing the "Right to Die":The Case of Terri Schiavo Life Issues ^ | Posted 9-7-03

Schiavo's Date with Death | Posted 9-8-03

Court guardian to decide man's fate | Posted 9-8-03

Terri Schiavo’s Life and Death | Posted 9-16-03

Conflict of Interest Charged in Florida Euthanasia Case | Posted 9-17-03

Too thin a line between life, death for Schiavo | Posted 9-17-03

Judge Sets Date To End Life Support | Posted 9-18-03

Terri Schindler-Schiavo's Story on Bill O' Reilly NOW| Posted 9-18-03

Let Schiavo fade away, as so many others do | Posted 9-25-03

Hate Mail, Threats Go to Man With Judge's Name (Terri Shiavo case) | Posted 9-30-03

Florida AG intervenes in Schiavo lawsuit [Crist CHOOSES DEATH. What "Right to refuse" for Terri?] | 10-4-03

Fight over Florida woman's fate |10-5-03

Sign Freep For Terri | Posted 10-5-03

Jeb Bush steps in for Schindler-Schiavo | Posted 10-7-03

No Mercy in Florida| Posted 10-11-03

Sean Hannity Steps In: Terri Schindler Case (New Video) | Posted 10-13-03

Coast to Coast AM Live Thread (Terri Schindler Schiavo and "Slippery Slope") | Posted 10-14-03

Comatose woman will stop being fed (CNN lies, Terry not in a coma) | Posted 10-15-03

Comatose Woman's Feeding Tube Removed (Fox news repeats AP's lie) | Posted 10-15-03

Sign this petition NOW! Help save Terri and let your voices be heard! | Posted 10-16-03

G.G Liddy discussing Terri Schiavo now (Call him) | Posted 10-16-03

Feeding Tube Removed From Comatose Woman | Posted 10-16-03

Feeding Tubes For Andrea Yates, But Not Terri Schiavo | Posted 10-16-03


Prosecutor Delivers Emergency Letters To Governor Bush in Terri Schiavo Case [Thomas More Center] | Posted 10-16-03

Medical Experts Contend Schiavo Won't `Feel A Thing' | Posted 10-16-03

Local Doctor Plays Part in Schiavo Case | 10/16/03

Terri Schiavo Vigil Report | Posted 10-16-03


Jeb Bush Wimping Out in Schiavo Case?| Posted 10-17-03

Judge denies last ditch effort by Schiavo's parents | Posted 10-17-03

Judge Again Refuses to Save Terri Schiavo | Posted 10-17-03



Abuse report filed for Terri Schiavo (Judicial Watch and Klayman Jump In) | Posted 10-18-03

Judicial Watch Offers Jeb Bush Legal Basis to Save Terri | Posted 10-18-03

Auschwitz in America | Posted 10-18-03

Contrary to AP, Terri Schiavo is not comatose or vegatative | Posted 10-18-03

Judge orders death without trial by jury!| Posted 10-18-03

The war for Terri Schiavo's life- some links| Posted 10-18-03

Whose Life Is It? | Posted 10-19-03

Vigil Sites for Terri Schindler Schiavo | Posted 10-19-03

Open Letter to Gov Jeb Bush + Pix from Terri Schiavo's Vigil | Posted 10-19-03

Schiavo Case Could Cause Change In Law | Posted 10-19-03

Speaker of the House, Johnnie Byrd to introduce “Terri’s Bill” | Posted on 10-19-03

Mother, brother visit Terri Schiavo | Posted 10-19-03

Mother, brother visit Terri Schiavo | Posted 10-19-03

Will 'Terri's Bill'save her life now | Posted 10-19-03


Schiavo life fight waged in Tampa court, state capitol | Posted 10-20-03

It is NOW Time for CRIMINAL PROSICUTION for Michael Schiavo | Posted 10-20-03

Sacrament Pits Family Against Hospice [Terri Schiavo] | Posted 10-20-03

Prevent Florida State Senator James King From Blocking Terr's Law |Posted 10-20-03


Terri Legislation Now!! | Posted on 10-20-03

EUTHANASIA WORLD | Posted 10-17-03

Legislature May Act To Save Terri Schiavo | Posted 10-20-03


Florida police refuse to let dying comatose woman have holy communion (Terri Schiavo) | Posted 10-20-03

Commentary: When a feeding tube borders on the barbaric | May 28, 1997 | Posted 10-20-03

Senate panel approves bill to let Bush intervene in Schiavo case with 10-2 Vote |Posted 10-21-03

Gov. Bush calls special session over Terri Schiavo | Posted 10-20-03


FREEP: Should the feeding tube be re-inserted into Terri Schiavo? (Bill OReilly Poll) | Posted 10-21-03

Saving Terri Schiavo (A MUST READ!!) | Posted 10-21-03

Terry Schiavo Executive Order Governor's Office (email) | Posted 10-21-03

[Florida] Senate Panel Approves Schiavo Bill | Posted on 10-21-03

FREEP THIS POLL(AOL Members): Should Terri Schiavo be allowed to die? | Posted 10-22-03

Winners and Losers in the Terri Schindler Affair | Posted 10-22-03

Koppel, Nightline and Schiavo: Left Wing Priest Criticizes Florida's Intervention | Posted 10-21-03

FReep CNN to tell them to correct Terri Schiavo question ("brain damaged" not "comatose") | Posted 10-22-03

Public Statement of the Schindler Family in Response to the Statement of Michael Schiavo | Posted 10/22/03

Million Mother Hens for Terri - Prayer Thread | Posted 10-22-03

complaint filed today with AG Ashcroft RE: Theresa Maria Schiavo | Posted 10-21-03 |


Terri Schiavo Begins Receiving Fluids and Hospital Care - (Current Status Alert!) | Posted 10-22-03


What if There Is Something Going On in There? - (Terri Shiavo - erring to the side of caution) | Posted 10-22-03

Agency to probe alleged spousal abuse of brain damaged woman | Posted 10-22-03

URGENT - ACTION NEEDED AT ONCE for Terri Schiavo| Posted 10-22-03

Dobson Speaks Out About Terri Schiavo | Posted 10-22-03

Affidavit of Carla Iyer, nurse who cared for Terri Schiavo from April 1995 to July 1996| Posted 10-23-03

To Restore Religious Freedoms. | Posted 10-23-03

Schiavo Law Puts Heat On Politics | Posted 10-23-03

Senate President Orders District Offices To Offer Living Wills | Posted 10-23-03

Woman's Sustaining Care Resumed- But Experts Say No Hope Exists For Her Recovery | Posted 10-23-03

THE FIGHT TO SAVE TERRI SCHIAVO - Chris Ferrara's Legal Brief for Terri | Posted 10-23-03

Attorney: Terri Schiavo Again Being Fed Through Tube | Posted 10-23-03

Scorning the Courts in Florida (NY Times backs killing Schiavo)| Posted 10-23-03

Governor knows best (Bush slam on Schiavo)| Posted 10-23-03

Questions swirl around husband of brain-damaged Florida woman| Posted 10-23-03

Terry Schiavo: Another Case of Convenience v. Compassion |Posted 10-23-03

The Battle for Terri - How Bush's Orders Were Carried Out| Posted 10-24-03

Father: Brain-damaged daughter responsive | Posted 10-24-03

Michael Schiavo Larry King Live | Posted 10-24-03


Doctors defend life for Schiavo | Posted 10-26-03

Burden of Proof: The Killing of Terri Schiavo| Posted 10-25-03

Media 'getting it wrong' on Terri Schiavo story | Posted 10-25-03

Is Terri Schiavo Dead? Eat, drink, and vegetate| Posted 10-25-03

NEWS ABOUT TERRI SCHIAVO | Posted on 10-25-03

ACLU to enter Schiavo legal fight | Oct. 25, 2003 | Posted 10-26-03

Bobby Schindler (Terri's brother) on Geraldo tonight | Posted on 10-26-03

Advocacy Center--State of Florida--Press Release [Schiavo Abuse Investigation] | Posted 10-26-03

The Martyrdom of Terri Schiavo | Posted on 10-26-03

ACLU Indignation over Landslide of Terri Schiavo Support | Posted 10-26-03

New Terri Schiavo update & request for information |Posted on 10-26-03

Terri Schindler-Schiavo: Basic Terri - a synopsis of info | Posted on 10-26-03

Husband Michael Schiavo to Do Some Image-Polishing - FROM THE FRONT LINES AT VIGIL | Posted 10-26-03

Judge in Life or Death Case Considered Conservative, Compassionate (Terri Schiavo Case) | Posted on 10-26-03

The essence of life is how we live it, not for how long. | Posted 10-26-03

A Fate Worse Than Death in Florida | Posted 10-27-03

Terri- A sweet voice-crying deep within. | Posted 10-27-2003

Anyone see Mr. Schindler on Hannity and Colmes just now? | Posted 10-27-03

Geraldo Show, At Large, Guest Attorneys Both Agree, Terri Should Live | Posted 10-26-03

Husband (Michael Schiavo) in Right-To-Die Case Rips Parents | Posted 10-27-03

Agency to probe alleged spousal abuse of Terri Schiavo | Posted on 10-27-03

Continuation for Request of Intervention on behalf of Terri Schiavo Posted 10-27-03

Doctor Says Schiavo Likely Victim of 'Some Kind of Trauma' | Posted 10-28-03

Schindler's attorney Pat Anderson to appear on Fox News with reaction to Michael on Larry King |Posted 10-28-03

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To: Mo1; FL_engineer
was this transcript posted? (I didn't see it in your lineup above, FE -- btw, thanks for all your work on those.)
81 posted on 10/29/2003 9:16:59 AM PST by cyn (
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To: sweetliberty
82 posted on 10/29/2003 9:19:38 AM PST by windchime
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To: cyn
Not sure if it was posted on FR .. but here is the one from CNN
83 posted on 10/29/2003 9:19:54 AM PST by Mo1 (
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To: Republic
done -- enjoy those leaves!
84 posted on 10/29/2003 9:21:21 AM PST by cyn (
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To: TaxRelief
>>Can you find any of Michael's Pennsylvania lawsuits?

I'll look around and see if PA has a similar website.
85 posted on 10/29/2003 9:34:39 AM PST by Graymatter
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To: fml
Steve claims it took 8 years for MS to give up and realize she was gone.

Does that mean he still had hope in '93 when he placed a DNR on her chart and ordered "no treatment" for a bladder infection that he later (in the same year, '93) testified he knew would probably result in her death by septic shock? Oh yeah!

86 posted on 10/29/2003 9:36:43 AM PST by TigersEye (Regime change in the courts. Impeach activist judges!)
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To: sweetliberty
Thank you for putting this together. Terri needs all of us to keep up the pressure. We cannot sit by and let Michael Schiavo and his attorney murder that poor vulnerable defenseless woman.
87 posted on 10/29/2003 9:42:10 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: sweetliberty
A new thread daily. Excellent!!! If it weren't for FR and concerned citizens keeping up the pressure, I think the champions of death would be having a field day with Terri. She'd have already been murdered.
88 posted on 10/29/2003 9:44:25 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Robert Drobot
Good post. Thanks.
89 posted on 10/29/2003 9:47:45 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Republic

Been there, it is a fantastic site! Lots of great articles, info I hadn't read elsewhere. Terri page has dozens of links.

90 posted on 10/29/2003 9:48:29 AM PST by Graymatter
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To: Republic
I'll get Terri's light going in my window. Thanks!
91 posted on 10/29/2003 9:51:54 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
92 posted on 10/29/2003 9:53:30 AM PST by pc93 (A good site to visit is . Oct. 15th 2pm death order must be stopped)
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To: Republic
We all love and adore and support the Schindler family but I don't think they make very good spokespersons. If they could get someone like Joni Erickson-Tada (sp?) or someone like that to JOIN them, I think they would be more effective. Michael Schiavo's attorney (the devil himself) has been a very effective spokesperson, smoothe and polished, just like you'd expect from the devil himself (disguised as an "angel of light"). I think the Schindler's need better PR presence. That's all I'm saying. Not to be critical but just to be practical.
93 posted on 10/29/2003 9:56:11 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: fml; sweetliberty; All
OK here are my notes from the interview .. sorry I took so long, my 3 yr old kept kicking me off the computer .. it was her turn she claims .. plus I got caught up on another thread

Keep in mind that I didn't write down the questions asked, just what he said and I'm trying to be as acurate as I can .. so if I made any mistakes, please feel free to correct me.

Steven is from the Philadlphia area

MS is not driving a brand new car like that has been reported .. Steven says that MS drives 1990 acura that has a broken A/C in it

Steven says that MS doesn't own a brand new home that it is an older home that he is fixing up. he does say that it is in a nice neighborhood but wouldn't say it's a rich one

MS doesn't not have control of the Trust Fund, that the Bank in which the money was placed does and that MS does not have access to that money

That the court allowed the fund pay for the legal fees because Felos is Terry's lawyers also.

Steven visited Terry & MS in Fl 2 weeks ago .. that since he lives so far way, he only gets to visit once every 2/3 years.

Steven claims that Terry's condition is the same as day one of the collaspe and that she hasn't changed

That she can open her eyes and looks awake but there is no reaction.

That before the collaspe Terry had a very good relationship with her inlaw

Steven claims that her head is always moving and that Terry's family could easily make it look like she is following the balloon, when really she isn't

He compares her reaction to her mother like that of day old infant and that if you blow in that baby's face you could make it smile and that is what Terry's family did to make her smile

In his opinion Terry died 13 yrs ago

That he spoke with MS just yesterday and that MS is aware that his brother is making these calls to radio stations and that MS was not upset to learn about that news

Steven claims that MS is only doing this because he loves Terry so much

Steven himself did not actually hear Terry state these wishes, but heard thru the family that she said this on 2 occasions
Once when their Grandmother (Steven & MS's GM) was in the hospital dying and his father had to decide to pull the plug and another time when Terry and MS were watching a TV movie

Steven then went on to talk about how MS tried for years and that he just wouldn't give up on Terry. But that when their mother died, that was when he realized Terry was gone

Steven claims that MS didn't become an RN because of Terry's condition .. that his wife (steven) is a nurse and that she urged MS to become an RN

(that was were there was a disagreement with the traffic girl and steven about MS's reason for becoming a nurse .. see my early post and the transcript of LKL)

The radio guy then keep pointing out the conflict of MS's story and what he said in court documents

Steven also mention that MS and his lawyer will be speaking out again about Terry's case

The radio guy also mentioned that there are many issues between MS and Terry's family and asked what happened because didn't MS use to live with Terry's parents

That is when Steven says that MS did not live with her parents .. that Terry's parents had lived with MS because they were bankrupt and had no money .. that their credit was so bad they couldn't even rent an appartment and MS was the one who let them live with him.

Steven also mentions that he would be willing to do another interview/call in with Glenn Beck

He also mentions the VRWC and all the evil emails

He mentions that the tape of Terry is 40 minutes long (MY COMMENT .. not the 4 hours that MS claims)

OK folks that ends my notes ..
94 posted on 10/29/2003 9:58:44 AM PST by Mo1 (
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To: Saundra Duffy
WOOOOHOOO, I'm happy now. I emailed AARP last night because I got their mailings again. I told them that I was considering joining until I found out that they were considering defending Michael Schiavo. hehe. They said my information was INCORRECT. I really wasn't gonna join but they don't have to know that. LOL
95 posted on 10/29/2003 10:03:40 AM PST by Lovergirl (Prayers for Terri. Hang in there Terri. We are gonna get u out of this mess.
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To: Saundra Duffy
. If they could get someone like Joni Erickson-Tada (sp?) or someone like that to JOIN them, I think they would be more effective

OH YES, Saundra!! Joni is SO articulate and a very effect spokesperson for disabled rights!! I would STRONGLY URGE THEM TO INVOLVE JONI!!!!

96 posted on 10/29/2003 10:04:24 AM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: cyn
Thanks for posting this. It is another dehydration death in the making.

It could take up to six months to obtain, and then a further 14 days for him to die.

It's going to take this young healthy man with very strong healthy organs a long time to die of dehydration.

I hope everyone reading this will include him in your prayers.

97 posted on 10/29/2003 10:17:51 AM PST by MarMema (KILLING ISN'T MEDICINE)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Here's a summary I typed up from the tape I made from Michael Reagan's interview of Attorney Patricia (Pamela?) Anderson last night. I may not have gotten everything exactly right but this is the gist of it and points covered, and can't take the time to polish it up right now:

1. In refutation of MS' statement that livein girlfriend cares more than Terri's mother. Mother bought stuffed animals and they were removed. Nobody has done more for Terri or cared for her more than her mother, Mary Schindler. Sees her almost every other day. All have put their lives on hold and come together as family . . . Mary took clothing down to the hospice. Hurtful, horrible thing to say re mistress cares more than own mother.

2. Money. Who is paying atty? Terri is the one paying for that attorney. That money has been taken away from Terri's medical fund. Half million "absolutely correct" out of Terri's medical fund has been paid to atty George Felos to make her dead. He entered pic in 1997. Terri was receiving rehab and therapy until 1991. When sued in 92 for $17 mil (awarded about $1.2 mil), that was used as the argument. He needed the money to bring her home and care for her for a normal lifespan. From that time, not one dime has been spent for therapy. After the money was allocated, not one cent was spent for rehab and $500,000 of the money has been spent on the lawyer to fight to pull the feeding tube.

3. PA: More disturbing about the judge, there are so many viable reasons while Michael should not be guardian. Living in open adultery, failure to file annual guardian reports and plans of action, obtaining guardianship in fraudulent manner (attorney's words, not mine).

4. Family receiving funding from rightwing groups. Right wing is n-word for people who stand in for life. MS should not have said that without research. Not true. Not funded by any organization. Receive donations from Coming in bits and pieces. $10, $20, etc. 160,000 signed online petition. Ton of people out there who have their eyes on this. MR: right wing groups are conspiracy to keep someone alive (in sarcastic mode).

5. PA honestly admits to being sort of emotionally involved. Says MS comes across as guy on a mission. ACLU on his team. Has effect on others. Ron Reagan cannot feed himself. Should they tell Nancy to quit feeding him? Disabilities organizations who are watching this are raising the bar on disabled people (MR: lowering it). GF says litmus is ability to raise spoon to own mouth.

6. Asked Christopher Reeve's organization about three or four times for help and he is too busy with other projects. "His plate rather full with his pursuits."

7. Joni Erickson Tada has come in on this. Not Dead Yet filed two or three amicus friends of the court briefs. It changes playing field or rules of what they are entitled to (disabled people).

8. Terri in remarkably good shape. Everything seems to be functioning properly and normally. Parents still not allowed to know medical details. Is "alert" (her words).

98 posted on 10/29/2003 10:19:49 AM PST by Aliska
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To: Mo1
>>MS did not live with her parents .. that Terry's parents had lived with MS...

Michael and Terri lived in an apartment when Terri collapsed. The parents moved in?
99 posted on 10/29/2003 10:23:00 AM PST by Graymatter
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To: Republic
I will pray right NOW!

Me, too. Dear Heavenly Father please help Terri to survive the onslought of the enemy. In Jesus' Name. Amen.

100 posted on 10/29/2003 10:26:53 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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