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Vanity | Feb. 11, 2004 | Nix Two

Posted on 02/07/2004 4:31:25 PM PST by Nix 2

Gotta tell you something, people. Other than listening to the demons wail about the deficit, what difference has it made in any of your lives? None. Interest rates have not gone up. The Medicare reform bill has the rats climbing the wall because it is the first step towards its OWN slow death. Even G-d kept the Jews wandering in the wilderness until the whole generations of them that knew slavery were dead. So now, seniors have a prescription program and younger workers will have private health accounts. It took the dems a gazillion years to try to make everyone in the USA a slave to government and take over US healthcare bit by bit. This year it would have been fully government run if Gore had made it to Pennsylvania Avenue. Bush is unraveling their dream of the world under Marx.

Are you watching the teachers' union howling at the moon? They can't teach, so they blame the kids for not being able to learn. Bush gave them their chance. They are blowing it big-time. The more they try and steal our kids, the harder we fight, and the more they scream. But it will have its end and it will be under a Bush presidency. We need good minds to have better goals. No one knows that better than he does. The dems are freaking out over *No Child Left behind* because if a teacher can't teach, he/she has got to go. The dems would protect these stupid, moneygrubbers at any cost including the cost of your children's education.

Privatization of ALL healthcare is paramount if we are to maintain the best healthcare system in the world. The dems have run doctors out of practice, turned insurance companies into beancounters, claimed that pharmaceutical companies, which have given us virtually many more years to live, vile, filthy creatures who stalk the weak and the poor. Now, the first step back towards freedom is being looked at and whined about as if you so-called conservatives were personally wounded and the bleeding will never stop. The truly wounded are the democrats who see their phoney, dark, delusional world exposed to the unforgiving light of the truth. They are losing...but will you give credit? This is too pathetic. Do you let others do your thinking now?

What exactly about the immigration reform has you so riled up? You are jumping to so many bogus conclusions, I don't even know where to start. You call it amnesty, and I ask you WHEREIN lies the amnesty? Is it not a fact that no illegal will be able to get a job unless Americans expressly turn it down? And is it not further fact that Americans will receive better training for BETTER jobs because SOMEBODY believes that we have better brains and can learn better skills to come up with better ideas, instead of having the sugah-daddy dems giving everyone handouts and more unemployment compensation so they WOULDN'T go back to work. Don't you realize that only prolonged the recovery, not helped it, or me, or you? Do you realize that maybe, just maybe, some of the jobs illegals take right now will henceforth be open to our American teenagers who lost them to 40 and 50 year old illegals flipping burgers, training jobs, entry level jobs, jobs that taught our kids what it meant to have a work ethic and some responsibilty so they can stop expecting us to spoil them half to death. If they want a $150.00 pair of silly shoes, let them but them themselves. If they want a car, a little hard work never hurt anyone. Or has it truly escaped you that Americans First means young Americans as well? THIS takes a generation as well but like liberals everywhere, yesterday seems to be much too late. Well, where were you when all these things were building up? I asked someone a few years ago, right here on this board. He said "Sure, I think about it, but...I have a family and can't afford to do the right thing.

Now, Bush does the right thing, depriving no one of anything, and the crocodile tears are starting to make Conservatives look more and more like the libs with their hands constantly extended.

Are you stopping in your misplaced anger at President Bush to realize that terrorists damaged us in an excruciating way, but if Gore, or any of his ilk would have been president, they would have seized on that moment to finalize their control over us in ways that should make you thank the Lord for Bush. Gun control would be a gun ban period. We would probably be under martial law, our government would be gone, and our soldiers would be patroling OUR streets while Bin Laden was enjoying French hospitality. The Islamist State Department would be busily going about installing some form of sharia law by now. Do you want to be Canada? Then go the hell there and stop calling yourselves conservatives, because you ain't.

If you were truly conservatives, you would be stopping to think about the freedom you DIDN'T lose. We are at war. They aren't here, WE are there. You would realize that fully one fourth of the US was on fire almost at the same time. We've had megafloods. The Clinton Administration cooked the Stockmarket books to give the illusion of prosperity. Bush has unraveled the tangled yarn and then some. Do you think that was cheap? Do you realize that President Bush rolled back many of the insane enviroweenie laws that caused all that, and because of it, logging can happen again. Oil drilling can begin again. Care will be taken to stop the kind of corrupt and corrupted opposing environmental laws that did nothing to help the environment, but it sure helped to line the pockets of the UN believers of the world and their science of unreality and fishy fantasy.

Are you so nonsatisfiable that you don't realize that the man from Texas stood and faced down the UN so that they can't even get a paragraph ratified because he has them running in circles and has not much to do with the terrorists and crooks who run the damb place.

We have a good man as President. He will be even better with a bigger majority in the House and Senate. Anyone else who is, or might run, will NEVER be able to accomplish what Bush has already accomplished, and he isn't done yet...and there is NO SUCH THING as instant gratification. All that leads to his horrors down the road...like Medicare was before this reform.



TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: deficit; democrats; fauxconservative; fuzzylogic; illegals; jobs; kyoto; medicare; navelinthinker; pathetic
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To: dubyaismypresident
And that must make YOU happy.....

Yes it makes me happy. That poll just drew the line in the FR sand. No more phony crap about being the "base". This is the same "base" that voted Perot in 1992 or stayed at home, Voted Perot again or stayed at home in 1996 and voted PJB, Harry Browne, Howard Phillips or just sat on their lazy butts in 2000 and now the same 20% is going to do it again. This is nothing new and it is not anything the GOP can change because that 20% has a price so high the party can never pay it.

421 posted on 02/07/2004 9:42:12 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Really? I bet the WH would like you to avail yourself of that poll.

That's always been one of the things FReepers are best at.
422 posted on 02/07/2004 9:42:15 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
I do indeed think that the bashing on FR is counterproductive.

That includes the Bush-bashing, conservative-bashing and the bashing of the very strong Bush supporters.

Everyone is getting bashed lately.

I am a very strong Bush supporter and I get bashed plenty when I make points in support of President Bush.

You are absolutely right that the bashing is counterproductive, but everyone needs to realize that and we need to turn to logical discussions, instead of arguing constantly.
423 posted on 02/07/2004 9:42:27 PM PST by texasflower (in the event of the rapture.......the Bush White House will be unmanned)
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To: FairOpinion

"People who claim to be oh, so conservative, but their admitted actions will result in a Dem victory are at the very least hypocrites." -- FairOpinion
You have to be pulling my left wooden leg with that comment! GWB is the most atrocious concept of conservatism that america has ever produced; in fact, I will wager Karl Marx gives him points for creating a great world.
424 posted on 02/07/2004 9:42:59 PM PST by Buckeroo
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To: Texasforever
So, Tex, any of those folks on this thread? 'Cause I haven't seen hide nor hair of 'em...

Could they be strawmen?
425 posted on 02/07/2004 9:43:52 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: dubyaismypresident
You call that statiical proof?

Well, no, I would call it statistical proof

Sorry that only works on DUMBocRATS

Sorry, I'm a Republican.

426 posted on 02/07/2004 9:44:16 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (All Our Base Are Belong To Dubya)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
You could atleast ping me if you want to slam me. I've been here since November 2000's recount hell.

See the latest tagline.

427 posted on 02/07/2004 9:44:21 PM PST by NeoCaveman (changing the tone apparently hasn't worked on FR)
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To: Lando Lincoln
You are welcome.

I try, in general, not to "over-ping" people, but occasionally, when I find something really good, that I think you'll enjoy, I'll let you know.

The article is worth it, but don't bother with the thread -- it's a total waste of time.
428 posted on 02/07/2004 9:45:34 PM PST by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: texasflower
Thank you. Now that I have heard a reasonable person make those very eloquent points, perhaps I can get my butt to bed!

;-)
429 posted on 02/07/2004 9:45:34 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Well, no, I would call it statistical proof

Well you and I agree on that.

Sorry, I'm a Republican.

Me too. And it is nothing to apologize for.

430 posted on 02/07/2004 9:45:39 PM PST by NeoCaveman (changing the tone apparently hasn't worked on FR)
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To: dubyaismypresident
Well you have some non-unappeasable conservatives angry.

Good. I want to make the angry. I have been angry with them since 1992.

431 posted on 02/07/2004 9:45:50 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: dubyaismypresident
Can't take the heat? That's what you got for mischaracterizing me directly, your toes stepped on.
432 posted on 02/07/2004 9:46:17 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (All Our Base Are Belong To Dubya)
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To: EternalVigilance
Look at the one just above your post to me.
433 posted on 02/07/2004 9:46:43 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: FairOpinion
"they" -- anti-Bush elements, who are either deliberately trying to get Kerry (or some other Dem elected) or are so misguided, naive, to be used as useful idiots by the Democrats to achieve their objective.
Anyone who is not voting for Bush, is voting for the Democrats. It's very straight forward and true.
People who claim to be oh, so conservative, but their admitted actions will result in a Dem victory are at the very least hypocrites.

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Well, either you are a coward who can't call a FReeper what you think he or she is to his or her face, or there really are no "they" out there...you're making it all up. Why, I can't even begin to fathom, but I also can't fathom going around with "they do this, they did that," on my lips every moment. If you are not an opposition plant, you oughta be.

434 posted on 02/07/2004 9:47:19 PM PST by .30Carbine (I'm saving my vote for March 2nd.)
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To: EternalVigilance
perhaps I can get my butt to bed!

EV,man, take the rest of you there, too. :- )

435 posted on 02/07/2004 9:47:23 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: dubyaismypresident
Then don't EVER call me a DUMBoCRAT without whining you got flamed.
436 posted on 02/07/2004 9:47:26 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (All Our Base Are Belong To Dubya)
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To: texasflower
I am a very strong Bush supporter and I get bashed plenty when I make points in support of President Bush.

No one's hands are clean, sadly

I will take your comment in the charitable nature it was given. There is too much bashing (across the board) and it isn't benefiting anyone anything.

437 posted on 02/07/2004 9:47:48 PM PST by NeoCaveman (changing the tone apparently hasn't worked on FR)
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To: Lazamataz
Laz, your bugs have bugs. I never said such a thing. I SAID we need to take our party back. Are you GOP or *other?* This isn't the first time you've come at me with this kind of inaneness, but you are free to play in the cotton candy with unicorns and other imaginary friends from now 'til helle freezes over.

No one has come with a warrant for my weapons thus far. I have a CCP, but I open carry pretty much. I don't have a full auto, but give me some decent judges and that too will come in time. Jeez!
438 posted on 02/07/2004 9:48:25 PM PST by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE from 6-10 AM-104.7 FM in da Burgh&WWVA AM)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Then don't EVER call me a DUMBoCRAT without whining you got flamed.

Never called you one. If anything (at most) I insuated that you were calling me one.

439 posted on 02/07/2004 9:49:13 PM PST by NeoCaveman (changing the tone apparently hasn't worked on FR)
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To: EternalVigilance
perhaps I can get my butt to bed!

EV,man, take the rest of you there, too. :- )Good night, my friend

440 posted on 02/07/2004 9:49:49 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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