Posted on 07/04/2004 6:26:18 AM PDT by Brian Mosely
For his sake as well as yours, I hope and pray you are wrong. With such limited information available to us so far, why are you so quick to label this Marine a traitor?
This Marine believes in our motto: "Semper Fidelis" (always faithful). I would hope you would too.
You really can't be that stupid, can you?
Or do you just read the New York Times call it gospel?
This backpedal by the terrorists is the first time they have ever shown fear, and make no bones about it, they are afraid.
I wish I could believe that. Individual Marines, yes. Small Marine units on their own, yes. But Marines ultimately led by politicians, no. And therein lies the problem.
That sounds a lot like a threat, and for your sake, I hope it isn't. Is that your intent? Is it forbidden to suggest under these circumstances, a model that seems to fit all the facts?
I am getting tired of reading about how the Marines are going to open up a can of whoopass if this guy is murdered. Lots of Marines have already been murdered. Lots of Islamics have already been murdered. If it were just a matter of wanting to kick some ass, this would have been over on 9/12/01. Killing terrorists without killing innocents is hard, and not just a matter of having the desire and the firepower to kill people.
These snatch-and-behead and remote detonation events are seen within their own camp as not only futile and counterproductive but lacking in honor. Not one missive from Osama failed to mention the willingness of his brigades to martyr themselves for the cause, which is their ONLY source of power. NOW who's the strong horse?
In the case of a muslim Marine (or any branch of the service) the question which begs asking is, "faithful to whom, the US or allah?"
"But Marines ultimately led by politicians, no. And therein lies the problem."
Sigh...yeah. It's just very infuriating.
Ya know what this sounds like to me?
Sounds like the cowards holding our Marine killed him. And right when the body hit the floor, a cellphone rang. Their leader called and the conversation went something like this:
Coward #1 -"Hallo?"
Coward leader -"Don't kill the Marine."
C#1 -"Ummmm. Okay."
CL -"We can't afford to anger thousands of American Marines. We don't have the weapons, people or supplies to defend ourselves against them."
C#1 -"Well... Ummm...."
CL -"What's wrong?"
C#1 -"About that Marine. Ummm..."
CL -"You didn't kill him, did you?"
C#1 -"Sorry, but yes."
CL -"Oh, we're SCREWED! What's that thumping sound I hear?"
Yeah it would really be cool if Marines could act as an independent entity. WTF? Col Kurtz is that you?
If that's true then the body will never turn up. Ever since I saw the video of the Marine, I feared he was already dead, just like I believe that that kid and the Korean man had been killed before their videos were released. At least I can draw comfort in knowing that these murderous aniamsls now have a globe and anchor-shaped target on their foreheads.
Why does it sound like a threat? I said I hope and pray it isn't true for his sake and yours. That means that I hope and pray he didn't betray his country and Corps, as my gut churns at the thought of such a thing. I was implying that poster would feel ashamed of his comments if he is proved incorrect, also the family of this PATRIOT would feel great offense at his comments.
For all who wish to opine about our fighting men and women, it's your first ammendment right. I think you would temper your remarks differently if you had a son or daughter there. We owe our servicemen and servicewomen our SUPPORT, leave the speculation and criticism to the LEFT.
By the way, there are a number of active duty FReepers who actively participate in our forum from Iraq and Afghanistan on a regular basis. See my tagline.
It just sickens me that this seems to be becoming a weekly display for these monsters.
Agreed. Pray for President Bush.
In the case of a Muslim Marine (or any branch of the service) the question which begs asking is, "faithful to whom, the US or Allah?"
Therein lies the crux of the matter. At this point I tend to believe this Marine went AWOL because that is what the Marines said had happened (they were too pc to come right out and say it, instead they said he was "missing from his post") and made a deal with his Islamic "brethren" in Iraq to get him out of the country, ...fill in the blank. Unfortunately they double crossed him and he found out that it doesn't matter if your an Islamic fascist or not, if your from America Allah wants you dead. So they cut off his head and he got to meet Allah (too bad it is just Satan in drag and alas, no 72 virgins).
Now the deed is done, the guy has no head and everyone is ticked. The Marines are ticked because in spite of the fact the guy probably went AWOL and his ultimate allegiance was to Allah, not the U.S. Marines they still killed a Marine and even if he was probably not loyal, they are. At the same time they killed one of their Mooslem brothers. While you can saw the heads off of infidels day in and day out and receive praise. It is not a good idea to let the world know that Islam is just a bloody, bloody cult that gets its jollies through lopping heads off and shouting "Allah Akbar" or some other such nonsense. It does not do much for winning infidels and the world at large to your cause.
So now after this Mooslem Marine has no head, those that done the deed are in a political quandary, their answer, like the good little Mooslems they are = LIE! Remember it is ok in Islam to lie to the infidel (and in this case the world at large) when it suits your purposes and the greater "good" (which is absurd because there is nothing good in this wicked/perverse religion of death) of Islam.
Yesterday: "We cut the head off this Marine, just like we said we would."
Today: We don't know what your talking about, sure the guy has no head but it wasn't us, some other bad Mooslems did it."
Makes sense to me
Is it the Mafia who play by that rule? "If anything happens to my son, I'm holding YOU personally responsible - even if he trips on his own shoelaces." Which causes the person to police everyone in his group to be sure that nothing happens to the Don's son... going so far as to make sure the son's shoelaces are tied at all times.
I agree
Has there been any confirmation that he is in fact dead?
***!!!Sudden thought!!!
" Jarhead" is how MEN spell "Jihad". ***
I like that !!
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