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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 19 September 2004
Various big media television networks ^ | 19 September 2004 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 09/19/2004 5:05:29 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: Darnright
Senator James Abouresk. Lebanese -- nominally Christian, I think, not Moslem. He was a McGovern sidekick, and Larry Pressler kicked him soundly out of the Senate. His dad, as I recall, got his start in SD as a trading post guy on Indian reservations in SD -- probably sold a lot of booze and made a lot of money.

Daschle was his staffer, and Abouresk identified him (correctly) as the kind of guy the Dems need to run in SD in order to win, and plugged him into his nationwide fund-raising network. Daschle's campaign in 1978 set a then record for out-of-state money spent by a candidate in South Dakota. See my little vanity for more on that race:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1211768/posts

461 posted on 09/19/2004 1:47:26 PM PDT by Agrarian (The second most important election of the year is the Senate race in South Dakota -- donate to Thune)
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To: scfirewall

I was feeling bad about missing the debate. Now I'm glad I did -- I think I would have burst a blood vessel in my head had I actually seen Daschle do that! What a condescending, arrogant....


462 posted on 09/19/2004 1:52:27 PM PDT by Agrarian (The second most important election of the year is the Senate race in South Dakota -- donate to Thune)
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To: greyfoxx39
no ID required for the thousands of new (read phony) registrations provided by ACORN

Here in Jax, our liberally biased media covered a story where thousands of registrations provided by ACORN were not going to be processed in time for voters to be registered because of missing, unverifiable and obviously fraudulent information catching the attention of the Duval County Voter's registration office. ACORN folks declined to be interviewed...

463 posted on 09/19/2004 1:57:06 PM PDT by Dutchgirl (FreeRepublic !! The best pajama/ cocktail party on earth!!)
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To: N. Beaujon
Listening to the re-run of FoxSunday. McCain said that OBL/Al-Qaeda does not know the difference between President Bush or Kerry. It makes no difference to them who wins, they just wants to interfere with our election.

They know the difference, big time!

464 posted on 09/19/2004 2:25:09 PM PDT by malia ( 9/11/01 terrorist killed over 3,000 on our homeland - they are still killing in Iraq!)
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To: Irish Eyes
Boy that would change a lot of equations if we got rid of McPain.
465 posted on 09/19/2004 2:26:01 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( President Reagan---all the rest.)
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To: LinnieBeth
You suppose Timmy got wind of us here and saw what we think of some of his performances, few have the guts to hammer him when he turns left.No fear here.
466 posted on 09/19/2004 2:28:53 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( President Reagan---all the rest.)
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To: malia

Richardson said SwiftVets, thru President Bush, have put out miswords - lies -. Chris Wallace JUST let it ride, again. It is as if any dem can come on FoxNews and say whatever they want with no rebuttal.


467 posted on 09/19/2004 2:32:54 PM PDT by malia ( 9/11/01 terrorist killed over 3,000 on our homeland - they are still killing in Iraq!)
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To: Dutchgirl

The Bernalillo county clerk has already found over 3000 dubious registrations, one of a 13-yr-old boy. His father is a party to the lawsuit to require ID. The dems have so far found hack judges to dismiss the lawsuit.


468 posted on 09/19/2004 2:40:07 PM PDT by greyfoxx39
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To: Geezerette
McPain was in Las Vegas, believe it or not!!

That makes sense, thank you very much!

469 posted on 09/19/2004 3:33:29 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Agrarian

I think it will be replayed at 8:00 (mountain time) on CNBC.
Hope you can watch it. Our guy did really, really good!

Are you in "West River"?

After watching the debate I had a good day going...........and then my beloved Broncos forgot to show up for the game.

Oh, well...........

GO THUNE and DIEDTRICH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


470 posted on 09/19/2004 3:37:19 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: maica; Alas Babylon!

Hmmm, oh well.

Maybe you could leave "Face the Nation" off the list of shows that will be discussed then. I mean if no one really does watch it or discuss it... so that someone like me (?!) doesn't watch it and scour the thread looking for someone else that's talking about it. Just my humble suggestion.


471 posted on 09/19/2004 4:03:50 PM PDT by Mockingbird For Short ("God and George W. Bush, a Spiritual Life" by Paul Kengor--- a great read.)
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To: bradactor
I am watching the show right now and Daschle is pitiful against this guy with the same old b.s. attacks.

I was watching it, but I have such a visceral contempt for Mr. Deeply Saddened that I cannot look at him objectively, so I didn't know what to think.

I am glad to know that he looked pitiful.

I just hope he looks gone, come November 2nd.

472 posted on 09/19/2004 4:08:13 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Mockingbird For Short

What did you see today? Comments are always welcome. I have no respect for Bob Schieffer or Gloria Borger, but actually tried to program my VCR to tape today's show since it is CBS, and I did not do it correctly. Did they say anything about Rather and the memos?


473 posted on 09/19/2004 4:22:40 PM PDT by maica
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To: Gunder
I think it's time to send Thune another contribution! :-)

The only political contributions I make are to FreeRepublic...Today I will send one to Thune...Dasshole needs to see the political graveyard.

474 posted on 09/19/2004 4:44:53 PM PDT by Outraged
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To: Wait4Truth
I think that should be one of our biggest themes...that the RATS statements give comfort to the enemy and demoralize our troops. Republicans should be screaming this from the rooftops.

worth repeating

475 posted on 09/19/2004 5:11:04 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: Rushmore Rocks

Glad to hear Thune performed well, and I will definitely try to hunt it down on CNBC. Sounds like Diedrich is going to have a tougher go of it. Yup, I grew up in West River. 2:1 to 3:1 GOP country.


476 posted on 09/19/2004 5:33:50 PM PDT by Agrarian (The second most important election of the year is the Senate race in South Dakota -- donate to Thune)
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To: Rushmore Rocks
Well, thanks to your heads-up, I was able to watch the debate on MTP. I think Thune did about as well as he could do against Daschle.

What people on this forum and elsewhere don't realize is just how smart, smooth, and formidable Daschle is. He is so reviled by right-thinking people everywhere that they can't see that.

What I explain to those who ask me (and believe me, I am one of those people who has been forever having to explain why a conservative state like SD keeps sending a liberal like Daschle to Washington), is that SD voters understand that the only thing that small states like SD have that keeps them in the game is their Senators. Therefore, in a choice between a sharp Democrat and a dull-witted Republican, enough GOP voters will cross the line to vote to make the difference.

We saw this with Daschle beating Abdnor. When I was in junior high, I had a chance to meet Abdnor when he was the western district Representative. Our family was on a trip to the east coast, and my dad took us to meet Abdnor -- he took us on a personal tour of the Capitol building, and let me sit in the Speaker's chair, since they weren't in session. A very nice guy, very conservative, but no match for Daschle as a speaker and debater. The same thing happened with Pressler, when enough people figured out that he wasn't nearly as sharp as his Harvard law and Oxford Rhodes scholar background would indicate.

The fault lies with the SD GOP, which all too often produces mediocre candidates. The current crop of Rounds, Thune, and Diedrich are the best I have seen in years.

Since I no longer live in SD, my only involvement is with my checkbook and with quietly lobbying my family in SD to make sure they get out and vote, but I would hope that a new generation of SD Republicans will realize that good across-the-board candidates need to be identified, groomed, and elected. Of course, given a straight-up choice, we will always back the Republican, but we can't waste elected offices, especially stepping-stone positions, on candidates who aren't 1. able to take it to the next level, and 2. across-the-board conservatives who are able to give a positive articulation of conservative principles and policies.

We were so dominated for so long by Pressler and Janklow, that we had no depth, and that has to change -- there need to be good candidates with some name recognition who are ready to step up to the plate when the guy ahead falters.

477 posted on 09/19/2004 9:50:38 PM PDT by Agrarian (The second most important election of the year is the Senate race in South Dakota -- donate to Thune)
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To: Darnright
When I went to see if I could find out what I could find out about James Abourezk's subsequent history (he's retired and living in Rapid City -- it appears that a relative -- a son? -- is a medical malpractice personal injury trial attorney there), I found out a couple more interesting things.

The interesting thing that I found out, that I never knew, was that the guy Daschle beat to get into the Senate, James Abdnor, is also of Arab/Lebanese descent. He was a Kennebec area farmer who had a long political career in the SD GOP that ended with Daschle's win.

So both the guy who nutured Daschle's career, and one of the people he beat to get it going were Lebanese Americans. Again, I'm pretty sure neither were Muslim -- all of the prairie Lebanese that I've heard of were Christians.

The most interesting thing I turned up was on a SD blog from back in April (and it should get more play here on FR). It is that memos were turned up in former Senator Abourezk's public archives that make clear that Randell Beck, now big cheese at the Sioux Falls Argus-Leader (Daschle's amen corner), was working hand in glove with James Abourezk and the Democrats, advising them on how to handle public relations better.

It pretty much proves what everyone knows: he is a Democrat/Daschle shill.

The entry is halfway down, with links to pdf's of the documents.

http://southdakotapolitics.blogs.com/south_dakota_politics/2004/week17/

478 posted on 09/19/2004 10:37:36 PM PDT by Agrarian (The second most important election of the year is the Senate race in South Dakota -- donate to Thune)
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To: kabar

And he will not get my vote. I will vote for the democrat first.


479 posted on 09/20/2004 3:00:05 PM PDT by mrbillxx (Conservatives Think. Liberals Feel.)
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