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Fox: Commercial Pilots 'attacked' with laser
Fox News | Greta Van Susteren

Posted on 09/28/2004 8:12:49 PM PDT by ableChair

Greta Van Susteren reported that a Delta pilot enroute to Salt Lake City was lazed in the cockpit this last Wednesday. Only country I know that has that hardware (for lazing bomber pilots) was the Soviet Union. Pilot reportedly required medical treatment and this was not a minor injury (weak laser) wound. More will come out to tomorrow as this story hits the print press.


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: airlinesecurity; dal; kapitanman; laser
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Bunny? Pancake? I thought lazing was what I did in the recliner.....


21 posted on 09/28/2004 8:18:16 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Miss Free Republic High School-198?)
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To: Vision

http://www.fas.org/nuke/control/ccw/info.htm

Anti-personnel Laser Weapons
Anti-personnel laser weapons are inexpensive, sold openly by the Third World, have line-of-sight aiming, and are capable of producing catastrophic results if used against aircrews and sensors in flight (especially during takeoffs and landings). Commercially available laser weapons include the ZM-87, developed by the Chinese and first displayed at the International Defense Exhibition in 1995. In addition, the Russians sell a truck-mounted high-energy laser. And the University of Tasmania in Hobart sells a CO2 laser system for controlling forest undergrowth. The system is used to ignite logging debris from distances of 100 to 1,500 meters. The laser, costing $86,500, is mounted on a gun turret carried in a 2-ton truck and is simple to operate. Similar systems are available commercially throughout the world.

Data from the NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System database for the last two years provide examples of commercial flights in which the pilots suffered eye damage from lasers. These include aircraft landings at Honolulu, Las Vegas, Miami, New York, Los Angeles, and Phoenix. In Phoenix, one crew member was flashblinded, with resulting after-images and loss of night vision for about 1½ hours. Takeoffs have also been affected: in a 737 outbound from Los Angeles, two pilots were struck by a blinding flash that lasted 5 to 10 seconds. The first officer had burns on the outer eye and broken blood vessels. In a flight from Cleveland, one crew member received a bright blue light in his right eye and experienced vision impairment for the next 1½ hours. Data from the National Air Intelligence Center indicate that, in the U.S. alone, commercial lasers have caused over 50 blinding incidents. Lasers have also injured a number of Air Force personnel. For example, the Palace Casino’s laser show laser-illuminated a C-130 landing at Keesler AFB. The flight engineer, who was looking straight ahead, was blinded for 3 to 5 seconds and then experienced blurred vision. The next day, he experienced eye pain requiring eye drops. In April of this year, two Royal Canadian Air Force helicopter pilots were laser-illuminated from a Russian trawler during a routine mission.


22 posted on 09/28/2004 8:18:34 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: xm177e2
Wasn't this (blinding pilots in a cockpit with a laser beam) in a Clancy novel?

Close, super bright spotlight.

23 posted on 09/28/2004 8:18:35 PM PDT by null and void (Bring the War on Terror home! Vote for Kerry...)
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To: ableChair

I heard the same report. I think they said the injury was to the pilot's eyes. They did say the plane landed safely at SLT but did not mention where it came from.


24 posted on 09/28/2004 8:18:42 PM PDT by pepperdog
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To: ableChair

WHOA!

I would assume it would have to come from satellite or a higher aircraft???

Getting flakey out there, folks!


25 posted on 09/28/2004 8:18:50 PM PDT by Quix (CONTACT CHURCHES UR AREA 2 HAVE SOLID PLAN 4 BUSSES VANS 2 GET CONSRV VOTERS 2 POLLS ELECTION DAY!)
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To: spyone
Yes. Tha Kapitan Man incident.

http://www.dod.mil/photos/Jun1997/970404-N-0000N-001.html
26 posted on 09/28/2004 8:18:54 PM PDT by July 4th (You need to click "Abstimmen")
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To: smith288

aaahhh, thanks...I feel better now.


27 posted on 09/28/2004 8:18:55 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Miss Free Republic High School-198?)
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To: TBarnett34

Beeber shiels up


28 posted on 09/28/2004 8:19:02 PM PDT by ninonitti
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To: ableChair; bcoffey

Thankee kindly for the explanation.


29 posted on 09/28/2004 8:19:04 PM PDT by Titan Magroyne (Uniform of the day: Freepajamas)
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To: abner

Thanks for the report, this doesn't sound good. geeeze.........

Prairie


30 posted on 09/28/2004 8:19:35 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (The Democrat Party is a national embarrassment!)
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To: bitt

Don't you like acronyms that are made into nouns that are made into verbs?


31 posted on 09/28/2004 8:19:37 PM PDT by steve86
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To: Quix

Nope. Easily done from the ground.


32 posted on 09/28/2004 8:19:50 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Stillwaters
This would not be a conventional laser. This would have to be a high-powered laser as it would be fired from a great distance, through lots of atmosphere and glass. The USSR used this idea as a way of blinding pilots in wartime and developed powerful lasers for this purpose. It doesn't burn skin, but it's enough to damage your eyes. The crewmember is being treated for an eye injury.

Bloody hell! What now?

33 posted on 09/28/2004 8:19:57 PM PDT by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: ableChair

I just heard this on Greta's show when she was talking to Bill Gertz. Bill said that the pilot had to be treated for eye injuries. If planes can get knocked out of the sky by ground-based lasers, there's a big, big problem.


34 posted on 09/28/2004 8:20:05 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ableChair

Actually it was Bill Gertz, who said it on Greta's show.


35 posted on 09/28/2004 8:20:07 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: ableChair

Some telescopes (including untold numbers of amateur scopes) have lasers mounted on them. The laser spot can be used either for alignment or for tracking atmospheric aberrations in order to correct them with adaptive optics. Some lasers systems are also used commercially for sky-writing.


36 posted on 09/28/2004 8:20:38 PM PDT by Kirkwood (I think, therefore I am Republican!)
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To: ableChair

This should clear it up per dictionary.com:

v. lazed, laz·ing, laz·es
v. intr.

To be lazy; loaf: laze around the house.


v. tr.

To spend (time) loafing: lazed the afternoon away in a hammock.


37 posted on 09/28/2004 8:20:44 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Quix

That's what's scary. It almost had to come from another aerospace craft (including conventional aircraft). My guess is that it was a single engine plane, but we'll see.


38 posted on 09/28/2004 8:20:47 PM PDT by ableChair
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To: ableChair
The word is "lased".

The most publicized alledged incident of lasing occured in 1997. The officer involved subsequently lost a law suit over the incident.

39 posted on 09/28/2004 8:20:52 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort ("Don't look at Kerry straight on. Only glance askance lest he suck the life right out of you.")
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To: finnman69

So would you have to be IN the cockpit to do this, or would this be done from a distance? Say, a satellite or another aircraft?


40 posted on 09/28/2004 8:20:53 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Miss Free Republic High School-198?)
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