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Illegal Alien Invasion
Self ^ | 10/16/04 | Dick Bachert

Posted on 10/18/2004 7:06:56 AM PDT by Dick Bachert

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To: ApesForEvolution

Oh, I see. And I agree.

There's a much larger prollem in America than we care to admit - I think it's wonderfully summarized in Deut. Ch.6....


41 posted on 10/18/2004 8:13:50 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Dick Bachert
Illegal Alien Invasion

3. Another 1.3 MILLION arrive legally.

Isn't this a contradiction???

Anyway, law enforcement is needed south of the border that doesn't bend to the whims of left-wing illegal alien flooding activists.

A sustainable population in 2050 should be about 420-430M approx. Anything substantially higher or lower would spell doom.

42 posted on 10/18/2004 8:15:56 AM PDT by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: Dick Bachert

The Democrats have got to stop blaming Bush for our manufacturing jobs going overseas. After all it was the Democrats who brought overseas into the United States to take our jobs. The Democrats started wars in Vietnam, Bosnia, and Somolia then brought refugees by the hundreds of thousands to fill our manufacturing jobs.

So, “Wake up America! Overseas is here, inside our country, taking our manufacturing jobs. Protest that! Protest the issuing of HB1 and HB2 Visas. No more HB1 and HB2 Visas should be issued for at least ten years. Americans need these jobs.”


43 posted on 10/18/2004 8:16:19 AM PDT by Sadie789
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To: hedgetrimmer
Do a little reading on the rise and fall of civilizations against population growth. Start with the river valleys 5000 years ago and work forward. Ascendent civilizations show population growth. Declining civilizations show declining populations.
44 posted on 10/18/2004 8:16:26 AM PDT by Fatalis (The Libertarian Party is to politics as Esperanto is to linguistics.)
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To: Dick Bachert
By 2014 there will be 45 million illegal aliens in our country. Our elections will have become completely undermined, corrupted by then.

With the help of our government, they will have turned our elections into a three ring circus, of fraud and corruption. Watch what happens this coming election, and you can imagine what it's going to be like by 2014.

45 posted on 10/18/2004 8:18:58 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Tai_Chung
If 10% of the US population is illegal, the only way to sort the illegals from the legals is to establish a national ID card. The card must be used for voting, employment,

A good many, if not most, employers who hire illegals do so knowingly. A national ID card won't make a difference to them.

46 posted on 10/18/2004 8:22:24 AM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: Dick Bachert
About 4,000 illegal immigrants are coming from Mexico EVERYDAY in California!!!
Nothing is being done. They overload the emergency rooms with their illegal and illegitimate children for stuffy noses and the bill is put on the hospitals. Hospitals and emergency rooms are closing in record numbers her in So. Ca. because of the non-insured illegal alien and the insured WORKER who is here LEGALLY and PAYS TAXES, doesn't have a hospital to go to because of it. This problem far exceeds the terror problem and nothing is being addressed.
I started telling the Republican Committee/fund-raisers I will not contribute unless someone makes a stand and helps stop this ambush.
47 posted on 10/18/2004 8:23:36 AM PDT by sonserae
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To: azhenfud
Corporate America wants slave labor at taxpayer's expense

The taxpayers are very happy to have cheap vegetables and cheap landscaping provided by slave labor.

48 posted on 10/18/2004 8:23:39 AM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: Fatalis

Lets see, when a country is invaded with an alien population that is so large that their culture overcomes the existing culture, that country will fall. It hasn't to do with the numbers of people, it has to do with whether the culture has members that will keep it alive. So flood the country with people who have no concept of liberty and its preservation by a constitutional government, and voila! no more USA. This in fact, is what the globalists at the WTO want because then it can manage trade to the most minute detail (a concept championed by the Soviet Union by the way)and not have to deal with the unruly citizens of an independent nation. Its best for the WTO if we're all just consumers and don't have any affection for our nation, anyway.

Just because you can make a buck off of a flood of immigrants doesn't mean that it is going to help preserve your country. The two things are unrelated in that context.


49 posted on 10/18/2004 8:26:06 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: B4Ranch

On the Decline of Military charts...

Very deceptive charts. Scales on honest charts should always go to zero

Especially the third chart (Defense vs Human Resources)
- the axis of the scales on the two sides wouldn't match up at zero.

If we are spouting the truth then honesty must be everywhere. I'd suspect the liberals of making these kind of charts.


50 posted on 10/18/2004 8:28:11 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: Elvis van Foster
but don't fret about rest.

You don't have your state listed on your FR page, but I assume you do not live in a border state. I live in Cali, and let me tell you, there is plenty to fret about. Our tax dollars go to paying for the education, healthcare, and welfare of anchor babies. They get in-state tuition if they are illegal but graduate high school. They want driver's licenses and voting rights. They have turned parts of L.A. into little TJ. Because of their unwillingness to learn English and teach it to their children, we must fund bi-lingual education programs insteads of using it to help English speaking American kids have better schools and programs. There is plenty to fret about.

You may feel safe living in a non-border state, but after they have bled us dry they will move on to other places. You won't be untouched for long.

51 posted on 10/18/2004 8:29:43 AM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: Constantine XIII
There aren't enough Mexicans in Mexico for that to be true!

They are quite prolific.

52 posted on 10/18/2004 8:30:21 AM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Illegal aliens are a separate issue from population growth. Population growth is a good thing, not a bad thing, but it should be done legally.
53 posted on 10/18/2004 8:31:26 AM PDT by Fatalis (The Libertarian Party is to politics as Esperanto is to linguistics.)
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To: TomGuy

Tom,
I've hammered on the collateral issues which have brought us to today for over 30 years. And for most of those 30 years, those who at least heard me (most simply refused to do so!), either ignored what I was saying or laughed -- or both.

They will soon stop laughing as it is now nearly too late to arrest the One World leveling process begun almost a century ago.

An anecdote to illustrate what I -- and those who struggled with me -- faced follows.

Many years ago, I took a close personal friend, Al, to a meeting where the late Representative Larry McDonald (killed with 268 others aboard KAL007 in 1983) was to deliver a program on the plans many citizens then considered a less than freedom filled vision of some New World Order.

We sat together through the highly detailed 2 hour presentation – which Larry delivered without notes. Al was silent and still for the entire 2 hours. When it concluded, Al asked if we could leave immediately. As he looked a bit ashen, I agreed.

As I drove away, I could see Al begin to clutch the arm rest and turn his head away from me. When I noticed that he’d begun to actually TREMBLE, I pulled over and asked him if he was OK.

“Don’t EVER take me to one of those meetings again.”

“Why?” I asked.

“Because I can’t handle it. Besides, there’s NOTHING I can do about any of that stuff anyway.”

Though we remained friends, he resumed his normal activities of running his small business, raising his kids, boating at his home on the lake and drinking ever larger quantities of serious adult beverages. So far as I could determine, he never again devoted a second of thought to the DISQUIETING information he’d heard that evening.

Bottom line? Like millions of others, Al simply tucked back into his personal comfort zone, largely ignoring the events – some contrived, some chance (but always used to further the goals of those who would become our masters) -- swirling the land of his birth ever closer to some cosmic drain.


54 posted on 10/18/2004 8:32:19 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs
The taxpayers are very happy to have cheap vegetables and cheap landscaping provided by slave labor.

The taxpayers are unhappy. They are not benefitting from illegal labor, they are paying for it in spades with broken down schools, broken down Social security systems, broken down healthcare systems.

The vegetable pickers and landscapers in this country are not slaves either, we have abolished slavery in this country. Did you forget?

The only people who are benefitting are the unscrupulous businesspeople who hire them, the congress they pay to look the other way, the activist judges who use their socialist ideology of social justice to undermine equal justice, and the home countries. The politicians there keep getting reelected because the remittances sent back boost their GDP by enornmous ammounts and because the multinational corporations are now controlling the system that transfers the remittance money, the home country governments are using some of it to build their infrastructure, at the expense of our own.

Its such a deal for the unscrupulous! The law abiding must never speak of it, just sit and watch their country fall.
55 posted on 10/18/2004 8:32:54 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Fatalis

By your analysis China and India should be the super powers of the world right now. My guess is that everyone is wealthy in these countries. I wonder why all of these people are coming to the US?

Just think if all the illegals stay in Mexico, Mexico would flourish. Right?


56 posted on 10/18/2004 8:33:38 AM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs
"The taxpayers are very happy to have cheap vegetables and cheap landscaping provided by slave labor."

Yep. They'd much rather pay $41 billion annually than to have to fork out an extra nickel for a cucumber or an extra dime for a lettuce.

57 posted on 10/18/2004 8:34:39 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: MistyCA

People flee their homeland because of the conditions there – and immediately try to recreate those same conditions here.
What do they gain? I am reminded of our own urban dwellers that flee to the country – and insist that new malls, shopping centers, and every other convenience (and ill) of the city follow them.


58 posted on 10/18/2004 8:35:52 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Constantine XIII

You'd better take a look at Mexican (indeed, Third World) birth rates, pal!

And who said all these new illegals would be Mexicans?

Many of them will be muslims from the US friendly middle-east and Indonesia. And, thanks to our open border policy, many of them are here already.

They will announce themselves in new and spectacular ways any day now.


59 posted on 10/18/2004 8:37:41 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Bella_Bru

It sounds like a problem of too many state handouts voted for by the majority. It's a free country. Cash in your house and move to a lower cost destination.


60 posted on 10/18/2004 8:37:43 AM PDT by Elvis van Foster
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