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Does Darwinism Attempt to Replace God?
11-30-2004 | W.T. Stewart

Posted on 11/30/2004 9:14:15 AM PST by cainin04

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To: WardMClark

3) Evolution is a fact. You'd better get used to it. The "Theory of Evolution" is the body of thought science has gathered to explain HOW allele frequencies in populations change over time. If you still doubt that this happens, you might ask why we keep having to come up with new flu vaccines every year.

The theory of evolution is fact.....do you understand that a theory is a mere supposition to explain how something happened? Your argument seems a bit hypocritical.


41 posted on 11/30/2004 9:49:16 AM PST by NVD
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To: TitansAFC


If anything, Evolution only strengthens my belief in God.
The more Science uncovers the more intricate and complicated the universe seems.
We as human beings have to come to grasp the idea, the fact, that there must something greater than ourselves.
A belief in God is not ignorant. It is enlightenment. While we may continue to uncover the mechanisms of it all, how evolution works, how the universe operates, there is still the lingering question of, why.


42 posted on 11/30/2004 9:49:23 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (See and decide for yourself)
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To: 50sDad

That is a good post, and I agree with you. If I sounded like I want people to take their focus off of the overall big message "Christ Died on the Cross for our sins" I am terribly sorry, because that is certainly not my intent.

I also believe in the old-earth. I think the 7 days is not the same 7 day week that we now have. But the order of events are as they are listed in Genesis.

My argument is not just with science class, but with the dirction public schools are heading in general. It is not that they are just taking God out of the schools, they are teaching that God does not exist and it is stupid to believe in God--in many schools.

But you are right, we can not and should not take our eye of the ball. The message of Christ is the overall message, but if people are taught at a young age not to believe in God--they aren't going to believe in Jesus either.


43 posted on 11/30/2004 9:50:24 AM PST by cainin04 (Concerned)
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To: cainin04
No, but some Darwinists do. Conversely, some Creationists attempt to replace science.

Too many of both, actually. A highly evolved pox on the lot of them.

44 posted on 11/30/2004 9:50:55 AM PST by Fatalis
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To: WardMClark

"1) Science deals with the tangible, the observable."

There is absolutely nothing tangible and observable to indicate that inter-species evolution ever occurred, much less to indicate that we all evolved out of the primordial soup. I can't think of any other scientific theory that has held sway as long as Darwinian evolution, over a hundred years, despite the absolute lack of evidence. Which proves to me that it isn't a scientific theory at all-- it's a religious belief.


45 posted on 11/30/2004 9:51:13 AM PST by walden
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To: Sam Cree

Corect, I think we are on the same page.


46 posted on 11/30/2004 9:51:32 AM PST by cainin04 (Concerned)
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To: Physicist

But many are still "apes" nonetheless.


47 posted on 11/30/2004 9:52:09 AM PST by Old Professer (The accidental trumps the purposeful in every endeavor attended by the incompetent.)
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To: cainin04
But the order of events are as they are listed in Genesis.

Seriously, now: you believe trees and grasses existed on Earth prior to the creation of the sun?

48 posted on 11/30/2004 9:52:20 AM PST by Physicist
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To: VadeRetro; jennyp; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Physicist; LogicWings; Doctor Stochastic; ..
Evolution Ping! This list is for the evolution side of evolution threads, and maybe other science topics like cosmology.
See the list's description in my freeper homepage. Then FReepmail me to be added or dropped.
49 posted on 11/30/2004 9:52:52 AM PST by PatrickHenry (The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: Busywhiskers

amen to that post.


50 posted on 11/30/2004 9:53:21 AM PST by cainin04 (Concerned)
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To: Physicist
Would you extend the same latitude to flat-Earth proponents?

Or geo-centrists. Check out fixedearth.com :

" Neville T. Jones, Ph.D. Physicist.... With his son, Steve, Dr. Jones has produced a CD with depicts a "small" Earth-centered Universe Model which no Truth-lover--Christian or otherwise--should fail to see and hear! This model has beautiful graphics and clear explanations which demonstrate how true science confirms the Biblical Model of a non-moving Earth around which the sun and all of the stars go every day and night."
51 posted on 11/30/2004 9:53:58 AM PST by BikerNYC
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To: cainin04
I predict that this thread will lead to much protesting too much.
52 posted on 11/30/2004 9:54:56 AM PST by Fatalis
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the ping!


53 posted on 11/30/2004 9:55:29 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Old Professer
But many are still "apes" nonetheless.

Of course! Nobody's confused by the fact that the ancestors of modern birds were birds. Apes do exist and did exist. And if a taxonomy were worked out by anything other than a human being, human beings would be classified as apes, also.

54 posted on 11/30/2004 9:55:53 AM PST by Physicist
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To: PatrickHenry

Who created Darwinism?


55 posted on 11/30/2004 9:57:02 AM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: cainin04

Some misguided folks think they are wise and insightful by adopting a middle ground: "God used macroevolution."

That's a non-sequitur. Think it through: http://boundless.org/2002_2003/regulars/office_hours/a0000798.html

On a related note, proponents of the Intelligent Design Theory like Behe and Dembski are Catholics.

As Catholics, they are theologically free to accept macroevolution.

As acomplished scientists, they did so, without question, for many years.

Until they did what all scientists purport to do, but many rarely do: Take a full and objective look at the evidence.


56 posted on 11/30/2004 9:57:10 AM PST by mikeus_maximus
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To: BikerNYC
Evidence that more and more scientists are becoming geocentrists.
57 posted on 11/30/2004 9:58:55 AM PST by Physicist
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To: cainin04
"Ok, I realize there are people out there who believe in both. But that is not how it is being taught in our schools."

Public schools have long been out of the business of teaching morals and virtues as well as supporting Judeo-Christian religious belief.

Although I happen to believe in the Creator, Christianity is more concerned with matters of salvation. Fortunately for all of us, public schools have yet to botch that issue.

Parents need to instruct their children in their own faith and to explain, contradict or resolve information provided by the schools. Churches need to do more to reach out to the children of the unchurched.

58 posted on 11/30/2004 9:59:33 AM PST by Gingersnap
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To: cainin04
Does Darwinism Attempt to Replace God?

No. Darwinism itself says NOTHING about Religion. It is only hateful, ignorant people, driven by their personal agendas, that hope to supplant God with Science.

Likewise, it is only hateful, ignorant people, driven by their personal agendas, that hope to supplant Science with God.

59 posted on 11/30/2004 10:00:31 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: walden
There is absolutely nothing tangible and observable to indicate that inter-species evolution ever occurred, much less to indicate that we all evolved out of the primordial soup. I can't think of any other scientific theory that has held sway as long as Darwinian evolution, over a hundred years, despite the absolute lack of evidence.

No, evolution lacks absolute evidence, which is not the same as an absolute lack of it. The preponderance of the available evidence is persuasive that evolution has occurred over a long period of time, details to follow as discoveries are made.

There is a nearly absolute lack of evolutionary evidence, however, for any theological conclusions as to questions about purpose in the Universe.

60 posted on 11/30/2004 10:00:55 AM PST by Fatalis
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