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TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO DECEMBER, 2004 DAILIES THREAD: NEWS DIGEST & GRASSROOTS ACTIVISM
various sources | 12/1/04 | various sources

Posted on 11/30/2004 8:06:26 PM PST by cyn

Welcome to Terri's December Dailies thread. This is where we place links to other Terri threads at Free Republic and other breaking news about Terri Schindler-Schiavo.

In addition, this is a place to meet and plan ways to use grassroots activism to help Terri's Fight.

If you are a newbie to Terri's Fight, I urge you to visit http://www.terrisfight.org where you can subscribe to their newsletter, can get up to speed on the court cases and the very long struggle.

Please consider joining us. The pay isn't very good lol but it is rewarding to help Terri nonetheless. Terri's life has as much value as anyone else's. The right to die movement needs a counter-balance. That freepers, is where we come in. -- floriduh voter

To help you keep up with most important and breaking news, ping or freepmail Ohioan from Florida and ask to be added to the “ping” (notification) list.

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LAST MONTH/NOV TERRI DAILIES THREAD -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1264875/posts

Current project: Please sign TERRI’S BIRTHDAY CARD -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1283113/posts.

Send your own birthday cards to Terri at http://www.Terrisfight.org -- tuck in a small check if you are able, it will be so greatly appreciated.

This is a busy time of the year for us all. Please keep Terri and her family and their efforts in your prayers and check by/bump this thread periodically and PLEASE SIGN TERRI’S BIRTHDAY CARD.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: dailiesthread; schiavo; stpetersburg; terrischiavo; terrischindler; terrisfight; wifekiller
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To: floriduh voter

My guess is that Bradenton understands all about incompetent judges. Carlie Bruschia's murderer was out walking the streets when his rear end should have been sitting in prison, thanks to a judge who doesn't think people can be endangered by a judge's crummy decisions. Wish we could get rid of Greer!


401 posted on 12/28/2004 1:31:16 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: floriduh voter

Got that CD for Christmas and I'm really loving it!


402 posted on 12/28/2004 1:32:14 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: floriduh voter; phenn; cyn; FreepinforTerri; kimmie7; Pegita; windchime; tutstar; Deo volente; ...

Terri ping to latest article. Notice Felos' words at the bottom of the article. He knows nothing of human dignity!

If anyone wants to be added to or taken off my Terri ping list, please let me know here or by FReepmail.

http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/10513588.htm


403 posted on 12/28/2004 1:38:40 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: floriduh voter

I recall reading on or about Oct. 15, 2003, that Michael R. Schiavo had to give the final go-ahead to remove the feeding tube, which he so proudly proceeded to do until temporarily halted by Terri's Law.


404 posted on 12/28/2004 2:04:54 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: floriduh voter

Thanks, FV! Happy New Year to you, too!


405 posted on 12/28/2004 3:59:10 PM PST by windchime (Won't it be great watching President Bush spend political capital?)
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To: Ohioan from Florida
"Terri is not chattel. Chattel is worth more to me than she is. She is not merchandise or goods that can be transferred from one person to another. She's mine, all mine. You can't have her." Felos said. "She retains her dignity as a human being and she retains her constitutional right to be tortured to death against her will, which nullifies her right to life."
406 posted on 12/28/2004 7:45:44 PM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Thanks for the ping!


407 posted on 12/28/2004 8:26:26 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Thanks, Ohioan from Florida!


408 posted on 12/28/2004 9:45:28 PM PST by windchime (Won't it be great watching President Bush spend political capital?)
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To: BykrBayb

You got that right!


409 posted on 12/29/2004 1:32:24 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; cyn

I'm listening to Clay right now. His Christmas cd is a best seller. I'm working on the January thread this morning. Since I haven't worked at my new web host yet, I can't access my scrapbook or host new photos at the moment. If anyone wants to add jpegs to the January thread, feel free and thanks. FV


410 posted on 12/29/2004 6:23:37 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: floriduh voter

St.Petersburg Times Floridian
Contemplating our navels
This year's honors go to those Floridians who made us laugh - and groan - amid the chaos.
By TOM ZUCCO and CRAIG PITTMAN
Published December 29, 2004
This year, we Floridians endured four hurricanes, a particularly nasty presidential election, the Terri Schiavo saga, a string of senseless shootings, and more stress and worry than anyone from any state deserves. By year's end, we had the collective energy level of a soggy boot.

http://www.sptimes.com/2004/12/29/Floridian/Contemplating_our_nav.shtml


411 posted on 12/29/2004 6:31:38 AM PST by Chocolate Rose
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The article "Legal battle over Terri Schiavo survives another year" posted in The Ledger too
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041229/APN/412290503


412 posted on 12/29/2004 6:39:26 AM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: All

Just a quick note--I don't think the news outlets have picked this up yet.

Florida's 2nd District Court of Appeal denied the Schindlers' appeal of Judge Greer's ruling in which he denied them a new trial on Terri's "wishes" based on Pope John Paul II's March statement with regard to feeding tubes.

Damn.


413 posted on 12/29/2004 11:51:47 AM PST by tbritton
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To: Drango

Many, many conservatives don't think the state, church or courts should have any say in an end of life issue. Please don't presume to speak for all conservatives.

The misconception many folks have with Terri's plight is that this is not an end of life issue. Terri is not dying, nor terminally ill.

Physician assisted suicide was passed by the voters in Oregon by a narrow margin. Euthanasia proponents would like state sponsored euthanasia nationwide. This is the crux of this issue.


414 posted on 12/30/2004 4:59:32 AM PST by KDubRN
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To: floriduh voter; All

Liberty IS A CONSERVATIVE CONCERN.

Liberty is a human concern. The state has immense raw power over an individual's life, liberty, and property. And nowhere else are our constitutional rights and freedoms under such relentless and subtle attack.

Terri Schiavo, like you and I, have guaranteed rights and liberties and freedoms. The constitution and Bill of Rights provide these, unless we commit a crime.

Terri's dilemma begins with Florida legislators changing the statutes, and continues with the judiciary interpreting the laws, instead of following the laws.

The Natural Law has changed, and this by virtue of judicial tyranny.


415 posted on 12/30/2004 5:14:57 AM PST by KDubRN
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To: floriduh voter; All

NUTRITION AND WATER ARE NOT MEDICAL TREATMENT.

Exactly. So, contact the legislature and convince them, debate the issues, explain, and educate that nutrition and hydration are basic necessities of life needed by all in order to survive. Withholding nutrition and hydration is euthanasia.

The law must be changed.

And while you are at it, explain to them how their law has created the atmosphere of chaos in that people are fearful of going to hospital for treatment.


416 posted on 12/30/2004 5:24:59 AM PST by KDubRN
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To: KDubRN

You have personal knowledge that people are afraid of what their hospital might do to them for cost cutting measures or if a relative or guardian wants to bump them off? I wouldn't be surprised.


417 posted on 12/30/2004 5:46:09 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: KDubRN
A poster said that this was a conservative web site and I addressed their view that this wasn't a conservative issue. LIfe is a conservative concern since conservatives are supposed to be pro-life, EXCEPT FOR JUDGE GREER and the sham Pinellas GOP Party who endorsed him. They endorsed FORCED EXIT.

Please follow the entire thread to see in what context I am stating something.

And, we have a JANUARY TERRI THREAD UP. Do a search for: Terri Schindler Schiavo January and you'll be at the new thread. Thanks, FV

418 posted on 12/30/2004 5:49:29 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: floriduh voter

You have personal knowledge that people are afraid of what their hospital might do to them for cost cutting measures or if a relative or guardian wants to bump them off? I wouldn't be surprised.

Yes. Search futile care and non heart beating organ donation. Downright scary.


419 posted on 12/30/2004 9:03:37 PM PST by KDubRN
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To: floriduh voter

A poster said that this was a conservative web site and I addressed their view that this wasn't a conservative issue. LIfe is a conservative concern since conservatives are supposed to be pro-life, EXCEPT FOR JUDGE GREER and the sham Pinellas GOP Party who endorsed him. They endorsed FORCED EXIT.
Please follow the entire thread to see in what context I am stating something.

And, we have a JANUARY TERRI THREAD UP. Do a search for: Terri Schindler Schiavo January and you'll be at the new thread. Thanks, FV

I scanned posts, so must have missed the gist of the communication between you and the other individual.
I am catching up. I will get to January........


420 posted on 12/30/2004 9:07:19 PM PST by KDubRN
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To: KDubRN; amdgmary; russesjunjee; Scoop 1; Dixielander; Theodore R.; tutstar
Our personal favorite nightmare, JUDGE GREER is vying for CHIEF JUDGE OF PINELLAS COUNTY in 2006. It is not an election position. The other Judges may select him over Judge Demers.

Like I said last year, "the kingdom of Greer". Run for your lives, people of Pinellas and Pasco County.

GREER is just a puppet. Who's controlling the strings? He's too incompetent and jaded in my opinion to be Chief Judge over us all! He's too incompetent imo to be a Circuit Civil Judge.

I'll be under the radar and freepmail people I ALREADY KNOW if it's about Greer's potential power grab in 2006.

421 posted on 12/31/2004 9:20:09 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Chocolate Rose
I'm going to pick up my mom. Hold on to your hat. Greer's vying to be CHIEF JUDGE OF PINELLAS COUNTY in 2006. Check www.sptimes.com today in the Metro Section and Happy New Year.

Jaded and delusions of grandeur is a valid description of Greer IMO.

422 posted on 12/31/2004 9:22:23 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Scoop 1

How can you have a chief judge that is a law breaker himself. Talk about hyprocrisy.

As sick as it is, that is what the people of FL voted into office. They seem to admire George W. Greer. Perhaps he has done "favors" for a lot of folks there over the years.


424 posted on 12/31/2004 1:24:12 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: KDubRN

How can you have a chief judge that is a law breaker himself. Talk about hyprocrisy.

You know there are a lot of people who are "prolife" in theory, but in practice, as with an elderly relative of their own, they don't particularly mind "exit protocols" to get the inconvenient person out of the way. That's why so many Republicans in FL endorse the killing of poor Terri, just to get her out of the way so Michael R. Schiavo can lead a "normal life." Shame on those FL voters!


425 posted on 12/31/2004 1:25:58 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Scoop 1

Good point, there is no reason to expect the public to "ever get it," as the liberals used to say.


427 posted on 12/31/2004 3:18:42 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: All; floriduh voter; FreepinforTerri; kimmie7; Pegita; windchime; tutstar; Deo volente; ...

Hospice Nurses Barred Santa and Carolers from Visiting Terri on Christmas

The following report appeared in the Florida Baptist Witness http://www.floridabaptistwitness.com/3655.article

“We forgot to put Santa on the visitation list,” Schindler said (Terri's dad) he told the nurse in jest. “It is typical what’s happening, people have no idea. At a certain point, enough is enough.”

Of the court, Schindler said “They gave the win to the team that didn’t show up.”

428 posted on 12/31/2004 3:37:58 PM PST by amdgmary
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To: amdgmary; Ohioan from Florida; sweetliberty; cyn; TaxRelief; russesjunjee; JulieRNR21; pc93
Oh, my. No music for Terri? She might RESPOND or be HAPPY THAT IT IS THE BIRTH OF THE SAVIOR? She might remember Christmas????? They are despicable at Hospice and TAKING ORDERS FROM Michael Schiavo.

Thanks for the link. Can you get this news to world net daily, amdgmary? Can you get this news to newsmax.com, juliernr21? WE MUST GET THIS OUT. It is a prime example of man's inhumanity to man. THEY ARE INHUMAN.

429 posted on 12/31/2004 3:53:42 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: amdgmary

Can you re-post your post re: no caroling on the Terri Schindler-Schiavo January Thread??? Thanks... FV


430 posted on 12/31/2004 3:54:42 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: floriduh voter

This is pure sadism.


431 posted on 12/31/2004 7:12:57 PM PST by Dante3
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To: Dante3

Yes, it is pure sadism. It's out of hand. I've had enough. We need to all stick together on this. Have you seen the January Thread yet? I'll ping you there. It gets worse...


432 posted on 12/31/2004 7:48:27 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org (Mine) **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: floriduh voter

THEY ARE INHUMAN.

Yes, but sadly endorsed by the people of FL. Who says now that "democracy" is the best form of government?


433 posted on 12/31/2004 9:29:25 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: amdgmary

Thanks for the ping!


434 posted on 12/31/2004 11:16:25 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: All; floriduh voter; Ohioan from Florida; tutstar; FreepinforTerri; kimmie7; Pegita; ...

This is the link to the report on the hospice nurses not allowing Christmas carolers and Santa to visit Terri on Christmas Day. The article appeared in the Florida Baptist Witness.

http://www.floridabaptistwitness.com/3655.article


435 posted on 01/01/2005 3:45:16 AM PST by amdgmary
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To: amdgmary

Thanks.


436 posted on 01/01/2005 6:59:02 AM PST by Dante3
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To: cyn

BTTT


437 posted on 01/01/2005 8:15:38 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Click on my name to see what readers have said about my Christian novels!)
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To: amdgmary

Very good article.


438 posted on 01/01/2005 10:59:58 AM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Scoop 1; floriduh voter

Did anyone save the docs before they were removed?


439 posted on 01/06/2005 5:10:16 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: Scoop 1; floriduh voter

Yes, I'm a bit out of the loop due to sickness in my home the past couple of weeks. Can someone provide a link or I can freepmail my email addy to you?


441 posted on 01/06/2005 5:35:14 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: tutstar

You ask about removed documents. Which documents are those? The ones from the University of Florida that disappeared? Judge Baird's daughter is at the U of F in some capacity. He's to Greer what Goebels was to Hitler. imo.


442 posted on 01/06/2005 8:12:39 AM PST by floriduh voter ( **** Help Terri Visit www.terrisfight.org)
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To: FL_engineer

Terri Big Eyes - reference post 10


443 posted on 01/26/2005 10:11:10 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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